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Want one  POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:arlington heights illinois usa |
posted 04-27-2004 06:42 AM
    
Hello, I'm new to the group and I'm looking to purchase a "cat" Currently I'm looking at two in the Chicago area and was wondering if anyone knows anything about the two cars. 2000 silver with 2k that the dealer says was found in a "barn" on a farm in Glenn Ellyn ???? 2001 orange with 11k private party northwest side of Chicago second owner says engine blew at 6k and was replaced under warrantee You sound like a great group and I hope to become an owner and meet some of you. |
ALLEY CAT                   POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 08:06 AM
wannabee - You might want to run a check of the cars you are looking at. Try www.carfax.com with the VIN numbers. If you live close to Bob Hacker (McHenry) or John Koonce (Roselle) - aka, Fixumm ( http://www.centralautobody.com/ ),,,,maybe they can take a look at the prospects? This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 04-27-2004 at 08:15 AM |
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obi-wan Prowler Junkie From:Los Altos, CA, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 12:29 PM
Hopefully they are '00 or later and the price is below 40,ooo. I fully agree that you should check out the vin no's. also have a knowledgeable person look at the cars. They can stop many potential problems and really go over the car. I not trying to put down the 99's but the later cars have more neat stuff. There's some 31 changes between a 99 and 00. If the buy is wright the early car is ok too. Recently A friend of mine got a very, very clean 99 with only 10,000 mi. on it for 28,000and that included air fair for him and his wife to az. to pick it up. He brought to me for a good look at and some beginning work and I was very pleased with his buy. He and his wife are very happy with it. They were told of the somewhat rough ride and the harsher shifting as well as the portions of the car that are not truly as finished as the later ones and that was ok with them. I think they got a very good deal. It even came with new tires. It had been a lease car and the customer rolled it over for a new veh. so they got a great buy. OboWan |
ssknar POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fox River Grove, IL USA |
posted 04-27-2004 01:09 PM
I am in Palatine, so you know I am close. I am near Hicks and Euclid. I will offer any help you may need. Steve |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 04-27-2004 02:17 PM
Welcome! I'd be questioning why the engine blew at 6k?? How hard has it been driven since the engine change? Obi-wan is correct in the differences between the 99s and 2000 and above. I own a 99 and an 02. The ride of the 99 can be enhanced with some minor part upgrades that will improve the ride significantly........although the ride of my 99 never bothered me anyway!! Good luck with your search. If you would prefer to purchase a new cat, DC provides me with a monthly updated list of where all the remaining new cats are located. I'd be happy to assist in a new cat search. ------------------ Classic/Beautiful - I'm referring to the Cat of course! |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 04:46 PM
Obi, what parts are "not truly as finished"? |
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tz1238 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, Illinois |
posted 04-27-2004 05:15 PM
I live in Elk Grove Village. Just picked mine up in February ( Silver 2001 ). I agree with talking to Bob or John, as they are much more knowledgeable then I am. I was lucky enough to get an extended warranty on mine till Dec. 2008. See if you can find any with a transferrable warranty. It's the best $150.00 I've spent. Do a search on the website for things to look out for. This website is a great wealth of knowledge. If you have any questions shoot me an E-mail. P.S. Hurry up and get that Prowler. There is a parade in Elk Grove in June and cruise nights are coming!!! This message has been edited by tz1238 on 04-27-2004 at 05:16 PM |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 04-27-2004 05:32 PM
obi-wan,is trying to say,that the quality of the 99s,is not as good as the later years.if you believe that,you'll belive that cows jump over the moon also.there is no difference in quality.i guess he believes it.i can show you plenty of 2000,2001 where the quality is worse,than my 99.if obi-wan knows so much,maybe being a retired mopar engineer,he can tell us why the quality of all mopars is always not what it should be compared to foreign cars.want one newbie,hopefully you can find somebody that subscribes to carfax,otherwise i believe there's a charge for it.there are 55 window regs on nat. b/o,i would'nt call that real good quality,mines had 5 replaced so far. ------------------ This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 04-27-2004 at 06:01 PM |
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Want one POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:arlington heights illinois usa |
posted 04-27-2004 06:11 PM
quote: Steve, Thanks, I'm in Arlington Heights across the street from Lake Arlington. I'm going tomorrow morning to look at the orange 01 at 7am in the city, so I know it's too short of a notice but I appreciate the offer, and will let you know how it goes. |
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obi-wan Prowler Junkie From:Los Altos, CA, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 06:12 PM
Well,here we go. First, I'll answer Ed, Then Jan. If you look at the front suspension(especially with the bumpers off) you'll see that most of the various bolts have long threads sticking out past the nuts. then start looking around the car at all the nuts and bolts that are visible under and around the car. from the stand point of a HOT ROD they SUCK. No hot rod that's worth its salt would ever be caught undressed like that. Only backyard wonders are ever built that way.(I do like home built rods-don't get me wrong) but a properly built factory car shouldn't be finished that way. There are 48 10x1.5(15MM HEAR) NUTS THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAR ALONE. The 4 nuts that stick down under the trans. crossbar are a prime example. The threaded portion sticks way down past the end of the nuts and are very easy to scrap the pavement or other road "things". I've seen many of these scraped badly. These are the only ones I actually shorten on the hole car and that's to put a set of my cap nuts on them.I've replaced all the offending nuts all over the car and it sure makes the look come together. I realize I'm not your average owner and I do want these vehicles to look more like a properly built HOT ROD. The front susp. a-arms and knuckles should have been polished from the factory and the transfer rods chrome plated but I know the cost at factory level to do that so I can see why it wasn't done. I'm not blaming D/C for any of this I'm just saying that for those of us that WANT to get these cars up to a higher plain these things should be done-thats why I'm doing them. One of the prime fasteners that offend is the upper,lower and steering ball joint nuts. These become especially bulgy when you polish(or chrome)the front susp. I build s.s. polished covernuts that use the threads that stick out beyond the nuts. They screw down over the o/e nut to hide them. They work very well and leek great. Jans answer will be in another post 'cua this thread is getting really long. Hope I've shed some lite on this subject. Ob-Wan. |
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Want one POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:arlington heights illinois usa |
posted 04-27-2004 06:13 PM
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 04-27-2004 06:33 PM
newbie hopeful,one more thing car fax is not a complete report,so you can't trust it entirely,if you do know somebody who is a real visual,and mech.expert,have them also do a inspection.good luck,let us know what happens. ------------------ |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 04-27-2004 06:49 PM
obi-wan,still hasn't answered the question that ed and i brought up.why is the quality on the 99's so bad.they all have bolts sticking out.so what,this is still a production car,its not a $100,000 custom hot rod.if they had planned to build it longer,which they didn't,some more improvements might have been made,like hiding or covering bolt ends,or polishing the frt.suspension.guess we will never know.all in all as the saying goes d/c did an excellent job in the overall design of this car,and i have to give them,the upper brass,credit for going out on a limb,so to speak and actually build it.no other car co.that i can think of has built a car that is so different in construction and looks than a prowler.if i had wanted a hot rod,i would have bought one,but i wanted a prowler,why.looks -handling -windows- air bags- a warranty-and a relativly fast car,to name just a few things this car has over a custom hot rod. This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 04-27-2004 at 06:59 PM |
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CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 04-27-2004 08:39 PM
I have a 99 Black and I don't think the overall quality is any different than my 02 Candy Red. Yes, the suspension and ride is different and better, but I never found the 99's ride to be intolerable. As I said, with some upgraded parts, that can be changed for the better on the 99. I read all the time on this site about problems that people have with their cats........and I have to say.......I haven't had any of those problems. Heck, I haven't even done the ball joint recall on my black yet.   |
Chromer POA Site Supporter With Jack the Wonder Dog - Official POA Mascot Personal ScrapBook From:Denver, Colorado, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 09:43 PM
quote: Hi Obi-wan: Facts are facts...there is MORE neat stuff on the 2000 and newer... I'm not going to beat you up for bringing awareness to those upgrades (heck..I wish I had a compass!!!). But...I'd like to point out the fact that the Pre-2000's also have some a FEW neat HOT ROD "finish" things that the Post 99's do not..including stainless steel exhaust manifolds and smooth satin finish A-arms to name a few. In fairness though..you're right..the 2000+'s have MORE neat stuff. JMO ------------------ |
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posted 04-27-2004 10:29 PM
Want One, Sknar and Taz ... yes ! there IS a parade in Elk Grove in June and the MORE the maeerier and the MORE AWSOME it will look for the kids. As has been stated, if you want another pair of eyes to check either 1 out, give a shout here or via Email ... mine is a '99 yellow. Please check out parade info in Events Section. Ray |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 04-27-2004 11:45 PM
Sorry I forgot to mention the other Ill. owners nearby Want one. I was on my way to work this morning and in a hurry,,,,, Hack and Fixumm's names came to me right away. Wantone - by all means, please use the other owners offering their help to answer your questions. |
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 04-28-2004 01:05 AM
I have to echo what CJ said. I don't see much diff. other than a slightly smoother ride. The gadgets on the mirror are just that, gadgets. I lived my entire life without them and could have continued without them. They are okay but nothing to make a decision about. The ride is smoother but not a whole heck of a lot, in my opinion. |
GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 04-28-2004 07:27 AM
.. and insofar as blown engines.. don't let that bother you either... It's a known condition, some of em do (did) - including mine - and as long as it's covered and replaced under warranty, don't really see this as a 'problem' Only a problem if it's NOT replaced, right? Do it.. . you'll be glad you did.... |
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Want one POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:arlington heights illinois usa |
posted 04-28-2004 09:41 AM
quote: Geno, Can you expand on the "known condition" Thanks |
CatDude POA Site Supporter Prowler Avatar Master From:Charlottesville, Va |
posted 04-28-2004 07:54 PM
Bill, I wouldn't worry about blown engines... I haven't heard of that happening with this car and I've had mine over two years and I know a lot of other members. The cat is a great running car. Damon. |
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Ray unregistered Admin Use |
posted 04-28-2004 09:24 PM
...Sure ... blown engines if you race this car, over rev it (somehow) or run it without oil .. otherwise ... not happening dude |
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catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 04-28-2004 10:09 PM
could of blown from overheating,and im not talking sand.know for a fact that some of blocks when cast and sent to d/c didn't get all the aluminum block water passages opened up.causing to overheat. ------------------ This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 04-28-2004 at 10:09 PM |
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GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 04-28-2004 10:20 PM
My experience (and those of a handful of other Prowler & 300M -they had the same engine - owners) is that this motor due to whatever reason had failures due to oil circulation in the low end. It was corrected under warranty by replacing the bottom end of the engine. Yes... it does happen.... and mine was never raced and always good on oil. |
superdoppler Prowler Junkie From:Jacksonville, FL USA |
posted 04-29-2004 03:55 PM
I have a Carfax account, so if you need any vin's run, let me know. |
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