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YellowFever
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posted 10-30-2002 03:07 PM           send a private message to Tarzan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by YellowFever
O.K., fast forward to October 2022. (that makes it 25 years old and an antique)

What will a used prowler be worth then?

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Originally posted by YellowFever:
O.K., fast forward to October 2022. (that makes it 25 years old and an antique)

What will a used prowler be worth then?


Forgot to mention, I'd say about $45-50K for a decent low mileage completely stock one.

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posted 10-30-2002 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     send a private message to Wayne Finch   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Wayne Finch
Well, if you assume new car prices rise over the long term at a rate of 5% a year over the next 20 years, that would make a $35,000 car worth about $92,000. Add in a little more appreciation because of the collectibility and I will guess $125,000. That is the good news. The bad news is that $125,000 will be you squat in 20 years.

And if the markets keep up there trend of the past few years, the Prowler will make a great investment on a relative basis. If you whine about how much the value of the Prowler is down over the past couple of years, just think, it could have been worse - you could have invested in the NASDAQ

This message has been edited by Wayne Finch on 10-30-2002 at 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Wayne Finch:
Well, if you assume new car prices rise over the long term at a rate of 5% a year over the next 20 years, that would make a $35,000 car worth about $92,000. Add in a little more appreciation because of the collectibility and I will guess $125,000. That is the good news. The bad news is that $125,000 will be you squat in 20 years.

And if the markets keep up there trend of the past few years, the Prowler will make a great investment on a relative basis. If you whine about how much the value of the Prowler is down over the past couple of years, just think, it could have been worst - you could have invested in the NASDAQ


I agree, real estate seems the way to go of late.

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I'd say roughly the cost of a close to new one today... and I'd be shocked to not be able to find, easily, some with low to no miles too.
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posted 10-30-2002 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
It's only worth something if you sell it.........
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posted 10-31-2002 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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Originally posted by YellowFever:
I agree, real estate seems the way to go of late.


Real Estate covers a wide range of potential investment opportunities. Just like some cars will be be worth more than others in the future or certain stocks move against overall market trends; you need to do your homework and research before jumping into a real estate deal.

As far as the value of a Prowler in 25 years - just like Mastercard says - "PRICELESS"

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Originally posted by CJ:
It's only worth something if you sell it.........

CJ do you mean ... It's worth more than money can buy.

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Originally posted by YellowFever:
I agree, real estate seems the way to go of late.



That is one of the reasons why I keep considering selling my Prowler - to purchase another house or property. My house value has gone up over 15% in the past year and a half. At the rate the home values are increasing and the Prowler prices are decreasing, I could buy another house in the neighborhood, rent it out then sell it in a couple years and then buy one of each color Prowler. Or just continue to reinvest it all. Or spend it all on hookers and cheap alcohol. The options are limitless... limitless I tell you!!!

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Dont worry about it. Tomorrow is not promise to know one. We all bought the Prowler because the way it looks. Theres nothing out there that comes close to it. My kat is priceless...
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Originally posted by Wayne Finch:
Well, if you assume new car prices rise over the long term at a rate of 5% a year over the next 20 years, that would make a $35,000 car worth about $92,000. Add in a little more appreciation because of the collectibility and I will guess $125,000. That is the good news. The bad news is that $125,000 will be you squat in 20 years.

Wayne, if that were completely true, a 79 big block Trans Am that stickered for $12K would have been worth about $35K in 1999 and today would be worth $40K today.

Go back another 10 years with a 69 Camaro Rally or SS and they would be worth about the same thing (if not more for the added 10 years)

On average, I don't think either ones prices are anything near that for a cherry car.

Also, assuming that line of thought, a $35K new prowler would be worth $36,750 used next year?

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posted 10-31-2002 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Goetz     send a private message to Bob Goetz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Goetz
Using the same process I do for Corvettes:
1. Corvettes depreciate to about 1/2 of sticker in about 7 years.
2. Divide the depreciation amount by 7 ( $40,000 sticker =$20,000, $20,000 divided by 7 = $2857 a year average)
3. Now that it has hit bottom add the average back each year.
I think Prowlers will do the same so:
$43000 new, 7 years to depreciate to $21,500 the average is $3071 so a 2000 model year in average condition should be worth $67565.
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posted 10-31-2002 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I'll be 78 years old and won't care. Wait a minute, I am 58 now and don't care.
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posted 10-31-2002 01:46 PM           send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by YellowFever
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Originally posted by Bob Goetz:
Using the same process I do for Corvettes:
1. Corvettes depreciate to about 1/2 of sticker in about 7 years.
2. Divide the depreciation amount by 7 ( $40,000 sticker =$20,000, $20,000 divided by 7 = $2857 a year average)
3. Now that it has hit bottom add the average back each year.
I think Prowlers will do the same so:
$43000 new, 7 years to depreciate to $21,500 the average is $3071 so a 2000 model year in average condition should be worth $67565.

Bob that may work on really old corvettes but, look at an 84. New $30K (I think more like $35K) divided by 2 = $15K for the seven years. Now divide $15K by 7 = $2143.00

Assuming you don't do anything for the depreciating 7 years that brings us up to 1991. So now add $2143.00 x 11 ($23,573.00) to the bae $15K to get us up to 2002 and a used 84 vette would be worth $38,573.00.

A used car dealership has 4 between 84 and 94 and none are above $10K (and 2 are convertibles)

Also, your theory assumes full sticker for a Prowler or vette. Right now, new Prowlers are being discounted up to $10K or more.

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posted 10-31-2002 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Goetz     send a private message to Bob Goetz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Goetz
Well do you consider a 84 Corvette a collectable car? like the Prowler! try my way on a ZR1 or a Grand Sport.
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posted 10-31-2002 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Had a red (what else)1984 Corvette. Sticker to my recall was about $22K base plus 2 or 3 K for options. NOT a collector's item in my book. Ride was horrible, but damn would that thing corner! Digital dash was one short afetr another. 85's and 86's were vast improvemnet in quality, HP, ride, and reliability. This may reflect in current used car prices for '84s.
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I too had an '84 Red Vette. Mine was incredibly reliable and fast enough. Just read an article regarding them a couple of weeks ago. They were over produced that year with the new body style change and basically are a dime a dozen. Will not and have not held their value and never will be considered a collectible car. So said the article. Tami
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posted 10-31-2002 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
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I too had an '84 Red Vette. Tami

Tami - I'd suggest we each find our old 84's and race them, but the guy that bought mine from dealer when I traded it in on an '86 got hit by a train trying to beat it to a crossing! It was a sad ending for the car. (luckily the dude lived)

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Hey Marty: Sounds good to me! Almost rolled mine when I hit loose gravel on a very sharp hairpin I was taking way too fast - sold it about a year later and the guy that bought it bought it for his 16 year old daughter for her first car!!!! Couldn't believe it! Tami
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Originally posted by Bob Goetz:
Well do you consider a 84 Corvette a collectable car? like the Prowler! try my way on a ZR1 or a Grand Sport.

Same same, just used the word corvette.

Now, what was the sticker on a Zr-1, $50K? $60K?

For arguments sake let's pick the lower value of $50K.

Half is $25K and that number divided by 7 is $3571.00

Assume a 10 (plus the 7 down) years and you are saying they are going for $60K used now? Hardly.

Ones I've seen are in the 20's. A few in the 30's but, not many takers at that price.


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Unless rare and sought after during it's day, a car simply doesn't go up in value... one "problem" our cars might have, even today, few know they exist. Without that crucial knowledge, who is going to know what they are in even TEN years!@
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