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ed monahan





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posted 08-24-2002 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
The following was posted by our host and founder, Mike Krehel, about 7 weeeks ago. He has funded this site totally out of his pocket for over two years, with no dues or contributions from the members. That is why there is a fund raiser currently. We need less than $ 1000 to finish funding the site. The cost will be much lower in the future, after the initial costs are met.


Thank you CJ for starting this very timely post.
The POA website was just about break even, yes we do charge for advertising, but we also have to pay for hosting and website/discussion forum development, maintenance, software, and don't forget about the T-Shirts and hats! LOL

Here are some facts...

The POA website has grown by leaps and bounds over the past two years and takes up well over 1200 megabits of hard disk space on our current server (I know that this is minor compared to current hard disk prices, but hosting sites charge dearly for hard disk space). We also own and maintain a separate server here in Houston where the Scrapbooks, Event Calendar, and other various space consuming image files are stored. This server alone holds nearly 2000 megabits on its hard drives. By having this secondary server here in Houston, we have been able to avoid the additional fees for space on the main server, which is located in Atlanta, but the Discussion Forum grows in size daily!

At our current rate, our hard disk usage grows by about 1.5 megabits daily. Based on new registered members, this will only continue to expand. One alternative would be to delete old posts, however I know that we all rely on being able to use the search function to find old posts and pictures that may have been posted along with them.

Besides hard disk space, we exceed the maximum bandwidth (through-put) daily and this also increases as our community grows.

Our current server has less than 20 other accounts (websites) on it because the Discussion Forum is so processor intensive and if they were to put anyone else on it we would begin having problems with load times from the server. The two other servers that are co-located and owned by our hosting company contain nearly 1500 accounts each. All said, our host is actually losing money on our account.

I believe that the reliability of our hosting service has been extremely high for the past year! We have been paying $100.00 per month, which was a real deal! I'm not interested in changing hosts or going with a lesser quality server. The company that hosts us is financially solid and dependable and I don't want to change services nor do I fault them for complaining. We have been asked to do something about our bandwidth and hard disk usage or we will have to look for a new host, which again I'm reluctant to do because of the outstanding service record that they've provided us.


Here’s what we need to do...

Since we are literally hogging all of the resources of this server our hosting service has recommended that we purchase our own server and they will provide a slot for us in their rack space and continue to provide us with the great service that they have for the past year.

The costs??

$8000.00 for our own new Dell server with a 1-hour downtime replacement parts guarantee. Our new rate will be $450.00 per month. Totally, I need to come up with over $13,000 (based on the cost of the server, one years service and server installation) to make this change and go forward. Next year we would only need to raise the $450 per month since the server will already be paid for.

We will have 20 gigs of hard disk space on redundant drives, dual processors, daily backups, and complete support for the server that will be located and maintained at the same location in Atlanta. This should keep us going for years to come with all the hard disk space and bandwidth we need for future growth.

With additional funding, we could also afford to expand and grow the site by hiring additional personnel and help take some of the burden off of myself. Between monitoring the site and the daily/weekly maintenance, I spend nearly 30 to 40 hours a week. What started off as a hobby has grown to a full time job for me!

Any further suggestions on how we could take up collections would be greatly appreciated. I for one don't like the idea of membership and am in favor of voluntary contributions, possibly with a page that would rate the different levels of those contributing i.e.: Platinum for $200 + a year, Gold for $100 to $199 a year, Silver for $50 to $99 a year and so on. We could also have this status show up under the username in the Discussion Forum. We would put a complete balance sheet on the website with full disclosure of where the funds went. Any excess funds can be used for sponsoring events, event insurance or whatever else we as a group decide to use the money for.

I thank you all for your concern and hope you'll monetarily help support your POA.


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This message has been edited by ed monahan on 08-24-2002 at 03:56 AM

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posted 08-24-2002 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     send a private message to Randy Cobb   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Randy Cobb
Ed,
Count on me for financial support. I'm just a rookie and don't know all the history of the site or what it will take to get the site "up to speed" and take the burden off of you, but all of you have my support. The advice and assistance by members has been great for me. No telling how much money I have saved with the ideas and tips members have given me from my purchase search to current mods.
Thanks!
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posted 08-24-2002 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Thanks for supporting the Prowler Owners Association website.

# 1 for information on the Prowler, upcoming events, and meeting the BEST people on the roads today!

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posted 08-24-2002 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Northern Cat     send a private message to Northern Cat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Northern Cat
Can I make my donation by Visa or do I have to send cheque?

Great site...that we should all support..

Don and Sandra

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posted 08-24-2002 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howler Cat     send a private message to Howler Cat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Howler Cat
You can do either way or paypal. Thank you for your support,

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posted 08-24-2002 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger     send a private message to Roger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Roger
Ed, thanks for posting this. I had missed the original post from Mike K.
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posted 08-24-2002 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     send a private message to Wayne Finch   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Wayne Finch
We are almost there
ed monahan





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posted 08-24-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Roger, I was trying to have the checks made out and sent to me. lol
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posted 08-24-2002 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Ed - NOT funny,,,,,,,as your check didn't clear the bank yet! Have Sandy send one of her's in,,,,,we know it will not bounce.
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posted 08-24-2002 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Ed, Thanks for bringing this back up to the top. We're very close to reaching our goal for the new server.

Click here for more information. There is also a Paypal link to contribute using a credit card.

To those that have already contributed, thank you for your support!

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posted 08-24-2002 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cnote6     send a private message to cnote6   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by cnote6
Total to date: $12,184.46
ed monahan





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posted 08-25-2002 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
A/C, you missed that one. I am having other people send me the checks and cashing theirs. Nevermind. You are slipping. I remember when you were pretty sharp. I have a great memory to go back that far, don't I?
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posted 08-25-2002 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Ed - I'm still sharp, lol. When you cash and deposit those checks, your bank is transfering the funds to my bank, and my accounts. You got to sleep less,,,,,,,you snooze, you lose!

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