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ProwlerOrange2001

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posted 08-11-2002 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProwlerOrange2001     send a private message to ProwlerOrange2001   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ProwlerOrange2001
Anyone know what happens to a totaled prowler? After insurance is done with it, it goes to the scrap yard right?I've seen a few Kats that have been in serious accidents, but still have some salvageable parts. Where can I get info on these cars, where they were sent, who can I contact, etc...

Any help is appreciated.

Al

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posted 08-11-2002 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JOES_PROWLN     send a private message to JOES_PROWLN   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JOES_PROWLN
Al,
When the insurance company was through with my totalled kat they auctioned it off at a general salvage auto auction. I saw it in June on ebay. The owner was trying to sell it. He had bought several parts to fix it. The bidding started at 12k.
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posted 08-11-2002 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
There was a similar discussion at:
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006713.html

I added my 2 cents at that time, the following may help here as well:

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Originally posted by GRROWL:
DON'T LET THEM TOTAL THE CAR. You are entitled to the cash value of the loss in value of the car. Argue that it went from $50,000 to $100, collect $49,900 and keep the car (so you can SELL THE PARTS TO US).

Don't forget, YOU STILL OWN (and control) THE CAR - NOT THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

-GRROWL

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posted 08-12-2002 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 01Prowler     send a private message to 01Prowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by 01Prowler
I was wondering about that as well.... I'm hoping I'll have the opportunity to purchase mine back from the insurance company... Hopefully they'll let me have it for cheap..... Anyone else ever done this with a totalled car?

Ron

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posted 08-12-2002 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauley     send a private message to pauley   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pauley
wuo oo...I was talking with Bob at the bar.....and the best educated guess for the number of prowlers being totaled out each month was/is 5 or 6....at least one a week......WOW.......DRIVE SAFE ......
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Originally posted by 01Prowler:
.... I'm hoping I'll have the opportunity to purchase mine back from the insurance company...
Ron

You will NEVER be able to purchase it back - your only chance is before you settle. You are entitled (at least in this state) to a check for the reduction in value due to the accident (for instance, before accident=$50,000, after accident=$100, you get a check for $49,900 AND KEEP THE CAR. The challenge is to negotiate a VERY LOW after accident value). I hope I'm wrong, but once you settle, I'd be very surprised if they even talk to you about selling it back.

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Thanks for the info...

Drive safe everyone.

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Just wanted to thank everyone for helping me find a luggage rack. This site is fantastic. On your totaled car be careful when you settle with the insurance company. I settled on a van I totaled. I was told the salvage was what was owed for towing and storage. 250.00 So I accepted the amount the insurance company had come up with for totaling it and paid the towing company for tow and store. I then sold it to a buyer of cars for triple of what I paid the tow company for it. Sounded good to me. When the check came it was 3000.00 less than what the "totaled" price I was quoted. It turns out that the insurance companies have deals worked out with auction houses and they split the amount with the auction company after auctioning the vehicle. After going to an attorney it turns out they we within their rights. So be sure and tell the insurance company what you are going to do, and what your actual pay off will be. Good luck but be careful. Hey how about sending me your hubcaps one of mine is missing. John
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posted 08-14-2002 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
Al,

http://www.viperwrecks.com always has one or two cats for parts. Their prices are not cheap.

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posted 08-14-2002 11:07 AM           send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by YellowFever
quote:
Originally posted by GRROWL:
(for instance, before accident=$50,000, after accident=$100, you get a check for $49,900 AND KEEP THE CAR.

If any insurance company is willing to write me a check for $50K for the car, I'd be the one buying 1 a week and totalling them

Insurance companies usually pay the lower of the two, a) cost to repair b) total the car (greater then 60% damamge)

I don't think any insurance company is going to say the prowler is a $50K car (especially with prices out there now. Even if you paid $50K for it, it's a used car now and worth less.

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posted 08-14-2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
quote:
Originally posted by YellowFever:

Insurance companies usually pay the lower of the two . . . .

I don't think any insurance company . . . . "



YF, it was just an example - the numbers used were for illustrative purposes only (O.K., assume I was talking about an EXPENSIVE car). Everything is open to negotiation - you want to prove as HIGH a value as possible before the accident; as LOW a value as possible after the accident. Argue that they owe you the difference (at least that was my experience in this state).

Statements like, "Usually . . . ." and "I don't think . . . ." are just that - opinion.

Yes, I actually did what I said. "Usually" didn't apply to me (the car was over 100% totaled - repairs would have been more than 100% of what the car was worth). Yes, I received a check for the full pre-accident value minus $100. And, by the way, the check was for more than I thought the car was worth (I guess it depends on how good a negotiator you are). Or, you can just believe what the insurance company (or Goodyear, or Chrysler, or "the dealer") tells you.

I'm just trying to help other members out when my REAL, ACTUAL experience may be of value, but I'm seriously reconsidering that approach.

-GRROWL

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quote:
Originally posted by GRROWL:

Statements like, "Usually . . . ." and "I don't think . . . ." are just that - opinion.

Usually, means usually happens or usually is the case and is not an opinion.

Yes, I actually did what I said. "Usually" didn't apply to me (the car was over 100% totaled - repairs would have been more than 100% of what the car was worth).
The trick here is that most dealers and repair places will not say this. Why, because with a totalled car, they get nothing. Now if they start fixing it and then report more damamge (previously not reported) that gets the price up more, they get to actually repair the car at any cost because the insurance company has already started making payments for the repair work.

Yes, I received a check for the full pre-accident value minus $100. And, by the way, the check was for more than I thought the car was worth (I guess it depends on how good a negotiator you are).
I doubt that negotiating had anything to do with it. Nor would they take your word (or mine) as to what the vehicle was worth. Elsewise, they would be paying of several million dollar Yugo's out there.

Or, you can just believe what the insurance company (or Goodyear, or Chrysler, or "the dealer") tells you.
Again, it's not up to you or me to dictate to the insurance company what the car is worth especially when new 2002's are going for less then $40K....


I'm just trying to help other members out when my REAL, ACTUAL experience may be of value, but I'm seriously reconsidering that approach.

Ditto here, don't take it personally


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posted 08-14-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Sometimes an insurance company will actually give you a little bit more than the car is worth so that you hurry up and sign and settle and therefore cannot collect the big money that is involved with any injuries. If the car was parked, this would not apply, obviously. If you think they are giving you $ 1000 more that the car is worth, most people would jump on it before the insurance company realizes their "mistake". That lets them off the hook for any non obvious injuries later.
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posted 08-14-2002 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
Ed, you're absolutely right. That's where negotiation comes into play. Without going into volumes, they do want to keep you happy so you don't go to a lawyer and sue for personal injury - gives you an advantage to separate the property damage and settle it first, and at a higher figure. Also, their first offer on the property damage is often "trade-in value of an average condition car". By showing them maintenance logs, receipts for improvements, listing of new items (tires, belts, hoses, etc.) this figure can be increased substantially. Yes, I received a large percentage increase over the initial offer because of the documentation I provided. EVERYTHING in this world is negotiable, but most people never ask or question the first answer, which is usually "NO".

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