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JCProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southern California |
posted 04-24-2002 10:22 AM
    
I wish they would have raffle it off, give everyone a chance at it... Now its who has the bigger wallet!  This message has been edited by topcat on 04-24-2002 at 11:15 PM |
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Voodoo Prowler Junkie From:Chatham, NJ |
posted 04-24-2002 11:20 AM
I agree, I would have liked to see a raffle. However that might just be because I can't afford to bid on it.  But I do know what you mean.Voodoo |
YELLER CAT   POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:FLORIDA, USA |
posted 04-24-2002 11:35 AM
I am disappointed... very, very disappointed that they are not selling $100 raffle tickets so that anyone including every current Prowler Owner could have a chance(s) to win this collectible and most desirable Prowler. After all, who would appreciate wining it more than a current Owner... one of us who have supported and continue to support the entire Prowler concept, not to mention continue to purchase Chrysler vehicles. Even if a current Owner did not win, at least we would have been given the opportunity to participate in this Historic Automotive Event. I guess I will just have to be satisfied that I attended the CAAP Tribute and that I am lucky enough to own the Yeller Cat. Sincerely, Jay PS... I hope the new "Deep Pocket" Owner is in fact a current Prowler Owner... not just some Celebrity without any ties to our Prowler Family!!! ------------------ |
Mike Krehel                 POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 04-24-2002 12:21 PM
I'm with Jay and everyone else on this. This car should have been raffled so that everyone could have the same opportunity to win it. I'm sure that most every Prowler owner would have bought a ticket and it most likely would have brought more money to the charity.
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fixumm POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Roselle ILL |
posted 04-24-2002 02:09 PM
Im with you all.
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CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 04-24-2002 04:23 PM
As I said before, I agree that it is a shame that they decided to auction off the last Prowler rather than raffle it. I would have liked to have seen it put in the WP Museum. However, I'm grateful that I have the cats I do and I feel more disappointed for those who don't have one and could have had a chance at this. I will try to obtain more insight as to why they chose this route on Friday. |
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Hot-Rod Prowler Junkie From:Bloomington, Illinois |
posted 04-24-2002 04:39 PM
I agree! Unfortunately this is a typical corporate business decision...do the least logical thing. Current owners should have had an opportunity! Where's the loyalty to YOUR customers D/C? I'm VERY disappointed. Hotrod... ------------------ |
SPCL-T POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Portland, Maine, USA |
posted 04-24-2002 07:39 PM
Due to my MS issue, I'm not disappointed for the cause. But, we should all think like a business executive would. The quickest way to get the largest amount of money, is to sell at auction. If they waited for the sale of raffle tickets, it would take for ever to collect a large "specified" amount of money. There was a raffle for a dressed up Mullholland that we posted last fall (unfortunately after 9/11). The tickets sold for $100 for each chance. The charity sold tickets for several months, and even delayed the drawing. The end result was, that they only sold a very low amount of tickets, and the dealership had to basically give the car away, with little to no profit for the charity. Don't take my opinion wrong. I would have loved to have had a chance to own it too. But just think what would have happened if just "anyone" did win the car. There would have been dozens of people demanding to buy it from the winner. Remember the 1st one sold at auction ($140K +), and the KISS car & trailer, which has been sold a few times since - each decreasing in value every year. Lets see what happens. Things will work out, as long as some rich person doesn't give it to their spoiled brat of a child, that doesn't care about the car. At this type of auction, I believe that the car will at least go to a collector with at least some enthusiasm for the "Prowler Experience." ------------------ This message has been edited by SPCL-T on 04-24-2002 at 07:41 PM |
JUST JP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Navarre, Florida, USA |
posted 04-24-2002 08:09 PM
Mike, I have an idea. If for some reason you don't desire ownership of this car, why not bid for it; up to a predetermined amount, then raffle it to the POA members. By my calculations, just averaging one ticket per member; that would be at least $136,800. I think we could pull that off. Maybe the other members could comment on my idea. If anyone else has thought of this, I didn't know. Mike, I know it's crazy, but tell me what ya think. I as the poorest Kat owner would even buy a ticket. By the way, I went ahead and figured on $100 a ticket times the current number of registered members, for anyone wondering where I came up with the number. Again, feel free to comment on da plan. Anyone. ------------------ |
Vipermad POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat From:Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 04-24-2002 09:01 PM
The last Viper that the VCA raffled off was a 2002 GTS ACR...original 96 blue with silver stripes, signed, etc. They sold 2002 tickets (or at least that was how many they were going to sell...I don't know the actual number sold) for $100. Only VCA Members could buy tickets...has to do with some legalities...(shrug) ~$85K car..... Point is it could be done. ------------------ |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 04-24-2002 09:11 PM
I don't like the idea but it is their car and they can do as they wish with it no matter what we think  Some BEAN counter probably thought they could get more $$$ for charity by auctioning it off, plus it will be easier for them. To run a raffle someone would have to sale tickets (-$$$$), then an accounting firm (-$$$$) would have to verify all the ###'s count the cash (-$$$$), Time is money, to much time not enough money. With the auction, pay your fee, give them the car, donate the proceeds and then right it off the books. DON'T LIKE IT BUT WHO AM I ------------------
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Rickster POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:St. Louis, MO USA |
posted 04-24-2002 10:35 PM
We should have seen this coming: DC is also auctioning the last 2002 Viper GTS coupe. http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b042402.htm |
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Todd Cameron unregistered Admin Use |
posted 04-25-2002 01:35 AM
considering what usually happens when someone without big buckies "wins" a big buckie item (look at the kiss prowler), if the average "joe" won it, mr big buckies would just by it anyhow. I don't see the difference. ------------------ |
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Hot-Rod Prowler Junkie From:Bloomington, Illinois |
posted 04-25-2002 07:30 AM
For the record, even though I expressed my disappointment in an earlier post, I totally agree with SPLC-T. At least the money is going to a worthy cause. JMO...  Hotrod... ------------------ |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 04-25-2002 08:04 AM
I am disappointed with their decision to auction it off, but I can understand why they are doing it, and like previously mentioned, at least it is going to a good cause. However, had they done a raffle instead, I would have been interested in purchasing a couple tickets. ------------------ MTD Prowler Intake System 2.2 |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 04-25-2002 08:26 AM
I feel a little insulted that D-C did not offer a raffle to the Prowler Owners. After all without us the car would be nothing. I guess we are not "good enough" to deserve the Last Cat. I believe it was the least D-C could do since they do not support us as owners or a club! On a positive note at least it is auctioned off for a good cause. I hope the last cat gets a good home ------------------ |
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purplecat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas Hill Country |
posted 04-25-2002 11:06 AM
Like everyone else that has posted here, I am disappointed that the Kat will not be raffled to POA owners. I agree that the proceeds are going to a very worthwhile cause, however who said the proceeds from a raffle could not go to the same place?? Just my nickels worth... ------------------ |
Punk N Purp POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pacifica, CA, USA |
posted 04-25-2002 07:23 PM
I can't believe all the disappointments on this thread. What do you think it would be like if they did auction the "last cat"? There would be a lot more disappointments if everyone paid at least $100.00 per ticket. IMO the auction should bring over $200,000.00, but what do I know? If the tickets sold totaled at least that, a person buying 500 tickets would pay over $50,000.00 and still have only a one in four chance of winning. As if most of us Prowler owners who work hard for our money, would buy a $100.00 ticket, for a one in 2,000 chance of winning .. At least I wouldn't! Some early owners paid $100,000.00 for their Prowlers. The last one should be worth more. If I had the big bucks and the place to store it, I would pay at least $200,000.00. I think someone that can afford it, and loves the Prowler enough to lay out the money should have it. Not like some of the people that have won a cat in the past and sold it because they didn't really want one, just the bucks it was worth. |
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CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 04-25-2002 10:48 PM
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As for feeling insulted, etc...........I don't see any reason to feel that way. In reality, DC doesn't owe us anything. If we hadn't bought the cars, someone else would have. Of all the cars that have been produced by the auto companies, how many of those have car clubs that are funded and supported by the manufacturer? Frankly, we ought to be darn grateful they ever built the car in the first place... as there were a lot of corporate people who didn't want to. This message has been edited by CJ on 04-25-2002 at 10:49 PM |
SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 04-26-2002 06:41 AM
Hello I spoke to a DC exec yesterday about the auction. He said that if DC would of had a raffle, it would of disqualified all employees of DC and any affiliates. These are the rules. CJ is right about the hassles too. Most companies that coordinate raffles eat a whooping 30% of proceeds too. Sassy This message has been edited by SasyMama on 04-26-2002 at 06:42 AM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 04-26-2002 07:47 AM
In my humble opinion, it was just a dream that one of us would win it in a raffle. DC didn't call me for my opinions, they own the car, so its up to them on whether to keep it or release it in a way they feel comfortable. They made their decision and I'm sure the money will go to a good cause. Somehow, I feel that I will get to view this cat at our 2004 national Prowler event in San Antonio,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,God Bless America ------------------ AlleyCat Productions, Inc |
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JUST JP POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Navarre, Florida, USA |
posted 05-01-2002 09:02 PM
Ok, did ANYONE read my post? Not a single person commented on my idea. That hurts my feelings. If I could have it, I would drive it EVERYDAY!  ------------------ |
Stray Cat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dayton, Ohio, USA |
posted 05-01-2002 09:38 PM
JP, I liked your Idea........ I'd pay $100 for a ticket - easy. Didn't want you to get you feelings hurt. John PS. Did you say your at Tinker ? |
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Paul POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Cedarburg, WI USA |
posted 05-01-2002 11:43 PM
JP, as I read your post, sounds like you're asking Mike to voluntarily buy the car and then recoup his investment by selling it back to one of us via a raffle? What's in it for Mike? Would he be allowed to win if he bought raffle tickets? What protection would Mike have if we didn't pony up enough tickets for him to get paid back? So, regardless of the # of tickets sold, someone would have to win and Mike could lose, potentially, thousands of dollars AND not get to keep the last Prowler? Is that what you had in mind? You had me almost convinced for about 1.8 seconds until I started thinking. P. S. Accepting the Michigan owners' who-know-most-about-how these-things-should-work comments, OK, I agree it's less hassle to auction it. But, gee folks, I'm still disappointed in losing out on a chance to own it myself. ------------------ This message has been edited by Paul on 05-01-2002 at 11:43 PM |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 05-02-2002 04:50 AM
Just JP, your entire plan hinges on the fact that Mike does not want the car, to begin with. That is a huge assumption and I doubt if that is true. Secondly, as has been pointed out before by Larry Lord and then a few others, although there are 1400 registered users, a lot of those are duplicates due to many different reasons, a lot more are simply people who registered so that they could sell something and a heck of a lot more must never read this site based upon the fact of how many times a topic is viewed. Therefore the number of members is much lower. Don't mistake all of this as a disagreement with your idea. It is not. I wish I could have bought a ticket or two at $100 but I can't. I did read your posts but did not respond to it since what my response would be so negative. Since you felt slighted, I am now responding. My entire response is based on the fact that I think Mike will want the last Prowler so I may be totally wrong, also. I hope I did not hurt your feelings, that was not my intent. ------------------ |
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