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fortknox82

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posted 08-05-2001 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fortknox82     send a private message to fortknox82   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by fortknox82
Just like it says, does thepaint on our cars suck or is it just me? It seems like the paint just cant take very much abuse. After 9000 miles of driving my kat the lower rocker panels have so many white specs from where the paint has been chipped away that i was forced to buy the tgf ground effects to cover it up. Also, on my hood there are a couple of knicks. And Lastly, i got egged the other nite by a couple of kids and i cleaned it up immediately but when i got home under the lights and did a close inspection, the egg where it had hit left a nice little circular pattern of pit marks from the contact. Now, a egg breaks with no effort and just from it hitting the car it made a permanent mark. I have tried buffing it out and everything and it looks like im screwed. Im just lucky that at least from a distance you cant see it but when you get close you do. And now since this incident, it seems like to me that the paint jobs that they put on our kats are not meant to last. I mean if there was any amount of considerable clear coat that would have absorbed the damage from most knicks and the egg and not have even touched the underlying paint. So is it me or do all prowlers just have poor paint jobs?

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posted 08-05-2001 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I have bad news for you. An egg shell is pretty strong. Put one up on end and try to crush it. When it breaks you then have hundreds of very sharp edges and since the first contact shatters the entire egg, the rest of the egg is hitting it with shards of shell.. Egg will eat paint off of any car or any other surface very quickly.
Do you have mud flaps? I have almost 15,000 miles and I don't have a single nick in the rocker panels. I do have a few nicks in the hood. Most of the time that is from following cars and trucks too closely.
I found out about that fact while riding a motorcycle with shorts on. If you are within 200 feet of a dump truck your legs, or your car is getting sandblasted. Not only are they dropping sand, but they are kicking it up off the ground unless it has just recently rained. Big Rigs are not quite as bad but still bad. You have to lay way back if you want to keep paint on you car. JOMO
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Jason, I have no problem with the yellow paint chipping. Maybe it's a metallic thing. "forced" to buy the ground effects huh? Sorry you got egg'd

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posted 08-05-2001 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ben     send a private message to ben   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ben
Hey Jason.........

How often do you wax your Prowler? Not the type of wax from an automatic car wash -- hand waxing with some carnuba based wax.......... Waxing is a VERY important thing.

Metallic paint shows "wear and tear" more than any other paint. The "glitter" inside the paint is already dispersed evenly, and if a scratch that moves some of the "glitter pattern" exists, it will show 1000% more than with "normal" flat paint. Touching it up is also MUCH more impossible. :-)

Here's the best part, buffing out scratches is fairly easy. Use a random orbital sander with a buffing pad and some machine polish.

Other things that can result in this is driving too close to other cars, driving fast on roads with loose gravel or newly paved roads, etc........

Given the amount of "damage" I'd have to question the paint taking the abuse vs it getting it from the driver..... :-) :-) :-)

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OH -- For the EGG problem. There's a few different solutions to prevent this:

1.) Heckler Koch
2.) Glock
3.) Colt

Most seem to have the same results. :-)

-Ben
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posted 08-05-2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     send a private message to butchcee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by butchcee
Ben I hear ya. I just have a target permit, but it seems I'm always on the way to the range. Say hallelujah for 24 hour ranges!

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This message has been edited by butchcee on 08-05-2001 at 12:27 PM

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My experience is the paint sucks. My silver had numerous blemishes in it. If I had the car outside more when I bought it I would have passed on it. And it was weak in holding off scratches and such. Then when I had it repainted, always got a bad match.
This winter, a complete paint job, new color, one of a kind I hope anyway.

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posted 08-05-2001 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
I have a Purple 99. I have a couple chip marks in the hood.The worst came fron a rock thrown from a Dodge dualy pickup. I don't have a major problem with chips on the side.
I think the chiping problem is as much a factor of the design as anything else. Next time you go to a Hot Rod show check out some of the street rods that are driven roughly 5000 miles a year or so and you will see similar chiping. As for blemishes I have none. I get allot of comments on the quality of the paint. As for the eggs they can cause allot of damage. Both from the shell and the egg itself which is very caustic. I had some serious damage done to another car I owned that was egged. Another bad one is ketchup. If it gets on your car clean it IMMEDIATELY. I had some kids squirt ketchup on my freshly wash and waxed RX7 at a fast food place. I didn't get it cleaned off quickly enough and I could never get the paint to look right on that side of the car again.

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posted 08-05-2001 09:50 PM           send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
I think our paint jobs suck the big doo doo.

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Jason I found out that my car had been painted twice before I got it repainted and it had lots of orange peal not the greatest that's for sure.
fortknox82

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posted 08-05-2001 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fortknox82     send a private message to fortknox82   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by fortknox82
Well i will admit that i do drive my car quite often and it does see more road abuse but i never really take it out where it can get the abuse. I dont go looking for it. I do have mudflaps on the car that are trimmed about 1 1/4 inches and i can hear them saving my car from the larger rocks on the road. I really dont care too much about the hood pits but i do care about the lower rockers as they were showing the abuse pretty bad. And yes...i was forced to buy the ground effects I also wax the car with either meguiars gold wax or mothers carnaba paste wax. Both are very good and it will probably getting an application of mothers b4 i leave for woodward to save the car from the bugs on the drive there. At least Norb did a nice job with the paint on the ground effects and they havent had any signs of knicks or damage yet so im a happy camper right now. But definetly in the future i will get it repainted and i will make sure that job looks like glass....

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posted 08-06-2001 01:47 AM           send a private message to fortknox82   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by cwatsonjr
Jason - I had an egg hit one of my cars (and 84 Dodge Daytona Turbo) and it left the fracture marks and a dent where it hit. They weren' throwing the egg at me or my car but they missed their target... Thankfully - it was a CHP officer. My car was only a year old at the time too - had that mark for a long time!

I too have the mud flaps but I didn't trim them. I am showing no wear on my rocker panels and I have 5400 miles on it now.

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This message has been edited by cwatsonjr on 08-06-2001 at 01:49 AM

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posted 08-06-2001 12:39 PM           send a private message to fortknox82   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
yep, not trimming is a must if you want no small rock damage.

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posted 08-06-2001 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Jason, I know where your coming from on the paint. I have a bit over 36,000 miles on the car and the "nosecone" almost looks as if it was sand blasted. Little white specks all over the nose... Another thing I found is that the mud flaps may save the rear quarter and rocker panel but they force the water and debris up and out the half moon notch on the inside of the fender. It then smacks the side of the car just below the marker lite and it is doing a job on that section now. I don't believe its the fault of the paint though, it is the design of the car itself. I hate to say it but it comes with the car. Normal cars don't throw debris since their wheels are covered and the fronts are a bit higher than ours. When it gets to where I can't stand it any more I'll have to have it painted and start over again but to me the car itself is worth all of this...

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Jason,
The paint on my silver 2000 is one of the best paint job's I ever had on a factory car. Also, you should switch to Zaino Brother's instead of Maguire's. You can get the polishes at www.zainobros.com, they are in NJ. It is the best stuff I've ever used in over 35 years of car maintainence. Also, since I put on the front and rear mud flaps, never get any chips or wet road spots on the side of my car.
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posted 08-06-2001 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MeanGene     send a private message to MeanGene   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MeanGene
Jason,

Sorry about the eggs, but I told you...it should be RED!

LOL
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posted 08-06-2001 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Jason, I THINK IT IS YOU

The paint on our cars is better than most ALL production cars. I have been to the paint plant. They take great care in making the paint as good as it is. As far as JD and the color match on the silver, The silver cars are the hardest to match. This isn't a Prowler silver problem, look at any older silver car that has had a panel painted, they do not match.

As others have stated, alot is due to the color and the way it is driven.

I have 15,000 on my car, 11,000 on the custom paint. I have some rock chips but none on the rocker panels. I even have the rock gaurds on the rear fenders painted and they are holding up extremely well. I did not trim my mud flaps.

The nose on the other hand got BLASTED on trip in and around Deadwood. Guess it is time to repaint the nose.

And the egg, I believe if you stand an egg on end and could push straight down on it you would not be strong enough to break it. One of the worst things to hit your car is an egg. Sorry to hear about it.

My experience with eggs was when I was about 15 out having fun before halloween. There was about 4 of us up a hill over the road. As a car approached we got ready, we aimed and then fired. As we hear the eggs crack on the car I hear my sister yell, LARRY, well she was looking for me to borrow money, I don't think she ever paid me back.

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Larry, is that one of the hazards of running in close proximaty with other Kats at speed. By the way installed the new Speed Lingerie. Very pleased with how it looks, but intial installation of the nose piece was a bear. Hope future installs go smoother. Everything else installed easy. Looks much better than the Mopar. JMO

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posted 08-07-2001 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catterumpus     send a private message to catterumpus   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catterumpus
It's like Ed said. The other vehicles out there will kick up stuff that will cause dings. If you flash the traffic like Ed you'll get the inevitable result. Protecting the cat means covering it with something. We tend to let it all show and fix whatever gets hurt. Your choice.

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well... considering that I'm used to dealing with the nice paint of Production Harley's... I still say our paint sucks the jolly big one.

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