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posted 07-23-2001 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons

Why does the media rag on the Prowler, but rave about the new Ford T-bird?

R&T Magazine (Aug 2001) - "In the wake of such success as the VW Beetle & PT Cruiser, Ford has resurrected the Thunderbird"

No mention about the Prowler as the Originator of the Retro crazy today!

Motor Trend TV - Says the "Prowler only has style going for it". "NO trunk space, V6, and poor perfomance"


All the T-bird is a pretty Lincoln LS. The Engine, Suspension, frame and most the dash was taken from the LS.


Lets compare the Specs

Engines:
Prowler - V6 253 HP, SOHC 24 valves, 255 lb-ft torque @ 3,950rpm
T-Bird - V8 252 HP, DOHC 32 valves, 267 lb-ft @ 6100 rpm

Preformance:
Prowler: 0-60 5.7 sec, 1/4 mile 14.7 sec @ 99 mph
T-bird: 0-60 7.0 sec, 1/4 mile 15.2 sec @ 93.5 mph

Trunk Space:
Prowler 1.6 cu ft.
T-bird 6.7 cu ft.


Who wants to buy a 2 seater roadster with NO preformance. It is basically a 2 seater lincoln continental. Back in the late 50's the T-bird competed with a vette, the 2002 T-bird will compete with a sebring!

When are we gonna get some respect from the Media?

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posted 07-23-2001 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Rad     send a private message to Joe Rad   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Joe Rad
Brian,

Those other cars you mentioned are "mass-produced" vehicles. So, everyone has seen them and can identify with them. Being that we own the "elusive prowler" is (magical), and I guess many in the media, just don't see it.

I too was bothered that the media never really gave us the proper exposure, but I like having the "mystery" exotic, that many don't understand. The car that no one (public) really knows or sees often. I like the illusion that the prowler creates.

I say, let the prowler lurk in the shadows. It makes the car more interesting.

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posted 07-23-2001 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A1A ROD     send a private message to A1A ROD   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by A1A ROD
Here is a review from this weekend's newspaper.
I think the reviewer "gets it"
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/072001/whe_6731309.shtml

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posted 07-23-2001 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Rad     send a private message to Joe Rad   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Joe Rad
A1A Rod,


Good review on the prowler.
Glad to see it.
Thanks for sharing it with us.


Brian, feeling better after reading this review?

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A1A Rod, Thanks for posting that write up. With out a doubt , the best write up I've read about our Kats!


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posted 07-23-2001 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
I feel a little better.

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posted 07-23-2001 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
A1A.

That was very positive article & actually had some informative information...

The Prowler was the lead story in automotive section of last Friday's New Orleans' Times Picayune. It's not online, but, the article was very good & positive. Our local writer had the same reaction from folks for the week she was driving the Orange Prowler around. Our article didn't have as much of the technical detail as the Jacksonville paper.

That Orange Prowler must be making it's rounds to the Southern cities.. I wonder where the next stop is for this Kat... That's another question. How does that Kat get assigned, allocated & shipped to each Newspaper writer for a week of free test driving???

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posted 07-23-2001 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Laddie: I was talking to Greg Rager from High Performance Mopar and he is getting an orange Prowler to use this weekend and next week. He is in Florida.....could be the same one?

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posted 07-23-2001 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
Hi Dave.

Is he planning to do article for High Performance Mopar magazine?

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posted 07-24-2001 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
That is usually what he does. I talk to him about once a week so I will ask him the next time we talk. He is originally from Johnstown and he used to cruise with us.

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posted 07-25-2001 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Wyman     send a private message to Bob Wyman   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Wyman
You can not compare the Prowler to the new Thunderbird. The Thunderbird is in a whole different class. What has been written by the magazines about Prowlers is all basically true. The Prowler is underpowered, don't stop, don't handle well, no trunk space, beat you to death on long trips, hard to get in and out of, and the wind will curl your hair.
The Prowler is a very unique car. Everybody would love to own one if they could inspite of how the car performs. This is why there is a Performance Aftermarket. It is our business to build the custom parts that will make more horsepower, brake systems to stop faster and suspesion parts for handling plus all the other add on parts.

The same thing is going to happen to the Thunderbird. Right now it is news worthy because it new. The next group articls on the car will be with aftermarket parts. The Thunderbird is underpowerd and they are all ready talking supercharging.

Do worry what the magazines write about the Prowler it will not change how unique the car really is. Road & Track did a article on our car two years ago and the article was very possitive about the Paxton Prowler.

At Paxton we have over 14 of our own supercharged vehicles. (Mustangs, Cougar, Neon, Hondas, SUV's, Light trucks, and big trucks) The car that get the most attention and runs the best is our Prowler. The Prowler is faster that our 1999 and 2001 Cobra Mustangs.

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posted 07-25-2001 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Thanks Bob, for your very informative post!
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I have been selling Vipers since 92' and Prowlers since 97'.
Thank God I chose these two specialty cars to make my living on! There are no other cars in recent histoty that have kept the demand for them for such a long period of time. Prowlers just recently have not commanded over sticker. Even the PT Cruisers are slowing down after only 1 1/2 years. I think if DC quit building them now the demand would be back within 12 months. What's everyone else think?

Happy Prowlin'!!!!


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posted 07-30-2001 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Laddie: I spoke with Greg Rager today. He has put 500 miles on the Orange Prowler and yes he will be doing an article on it. He didn't say when it would be published. His comment to me was that he liked the car once you get past its idiosyncracies. He didn't elaborate beyond that.

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We could have told him the Prowler was unique...

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posted 07-30-2001 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Yes Laddie, we could. Let's let him find out for himself and hopefully his article will be a favorable one.

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posted 08-01-2001 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Laddie: I spoke to Greg today. The Orange Prowler has left and is off to its next writer on the list. Greg said that 99% of what he will write will be positive and the negatives that he will talk about are out weighed by positives along the same lines. He drove the Cat 600 miles while he had it and he did seem to like it.

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