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VT Prowler Prowler Junkie From:Annandale, VA |
posted 01-25-2001 11:23 PM
    
I saw a very good listing of pros and cons to owning a pre production Prowler, such as the 2 woodwards and 5 black/silvers, by Larry. I was just wondering what the rest of you really thought. Would the allure of owning number 1 or 2 of the Woodward make you snap one up if you found it? Or do you think it's not a Woodward because it's not signed and numbered by Dr. Ru or wasn't made in the Conner Ave plant. Here's something to think about. How about I paint my black cat half red and pay Dr. Ru a butt load of money to pinstripe it and even more to sign it. Is it a Woodward? Please no emails on me casting doubt on Dr. Ru's ethics, this is just a hypothetical question. ------------------
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ed monahan                    POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 01-26-2001 12:18 AM
I was under the impression that the pre-production cars were destroyed, per Jerry S. at Grand Canyon. They were going to destroy that orange car. Fake Woodwards were produced by dealers, but not signed of course. The vin would not match the other Woodwards, but you could probably pull the wool over someone's eyes, if that is what you have in mind. I think I would buy a new Blue Cat if I had my choice of the three, but that is just my preference. If it was limited to the woodward or Orange, I don't know what I would do, but I think I would lean toward the newer car. I presume you know the number of the Woodward is in the pinstripe on the bottom, middle of the trunk. I am sure there will be a lot of dissenting opinions and the final choice has to be yours. You can't go too far wrong, either way. |
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Todd Bertrang unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 01-26-2001 02:34 AM
I would have to say the #1 Kat ever made in 1997, if your going to be like that  ------------------ |
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davidn unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 01-26-2001 09:08 AM
VT, pre production woodwards or two-tones are not official 1 and 2 .no one knows who has #1 woodward and # 2 woodward is owned by a couple in Ohio.I don't think that Dr.Ru will number any prowler i'm sure he will do the pinstripe but still not a official car.it is like having a real Rolex or a look a like. ------------------ davidn
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NightProwler Prowler Junkie From:Chicago |
posted 01-26-2001 09:19 AM
I tried to copy and paste the picture of the car but I couldn't do it. Point is that this prototype car has some value but, quite frankly, not tremendous value after so many years (excluding compounding and future value of $ computation). Would have been better off buying a '69 Z28 which cost $2,000 more than a basic camaro but is now worth, retail, $26M-$30M in good condition, etc. check out www.voloautomuseum.com and look under Showroom then Camaros. Gives some perspective on a prototype two-tone non-autographed wanna be Woodward. By the way, it may be the rarest prototype Camaro in the world but its not the rarest Camaro in the world. The rarest stock Camaro ever built is a 1968 convertible Z/28. Only 1 of them produced. Sold for $170,000 about 10 years ago. (Be careful in the classic car market-my buddy has worked at a classic corvette dealership for about 15 years. He told me there are 3 times as many 427 435 hp '67 Vettes in the Vette Club registry than were actually produced by GM).
1967 CHEVROLET RS PROTOTYPE RAREST CAMARO IN THE WORLD Comments: A VERY SERIOUS COLLECTOR CAR, CUSTOM BUILT BY GENERAL Volo Loan Calculator Annual Interest Rate: (With your good credit and 20% down.) Number of Years:
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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 01-26-2001 09:36 AM
ED' Only cars that have been modified have to be crushed. These two pilot WE cars were built as certified cars, used for shows and never modified. My personal feelings on these cars are that they may someday be worth much more than the 151 numbered Woodward Cars. Me reasoning is that they are the first development cars of the series. They are #1 and #2 of only 2 cars. The first Model A, 54 Corvette, 57 T-Bird, or many others seem to always be worth a little more than cars produced later in the series. Documentation will be the most important key to a future value though, since without Dr.Ru's signature, these cars are no different than a car painted two-tone. In my opinion, whoever buy this car needs to buy it because they want it, not because they are looking for an investment. I'm sure much more money can be made by wise investing than can ever be made by speculating on the value future value of Prowlers. |
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VT Prowler Prowler Junkie From:Annandale, VA |
posted 01-26-2001 10:05 AM
I think I would agree with Larry. If it were not for pre production 1 and 2, not to be confused with numbered 1 and 2, would there be any signed Woodwards? In some peoples mind this may make them more valuable. In others not at all. Just something to think about. Todd might have a point, we all owe a lot to the first couple of pre production cats made. I guess it all comes down to, do you like the car. I didn't by my black 2000 for investing, bought it for driving until they pry my bony hands off the steering wheel and plant me in the ground. ------------------
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 01-26-2001 01:54 PM
Larry, thanks for the info. That makes sense. |
Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 01-26-2001 07:58 PM
I'm not particularly fond of the Woodward, but I would like a black tie. Pre-production does not have a lot of meaning to me for the Prowler anyway. I've not been especially good at buying cars based on future value. I buy 'em cause I like 'em. ------------------ |
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Ray unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 01-26-2001 08:04 PM
Larry: Point of order ... would be a 53 Corvette that is valuable, not a 54 ... only 300 made in 53 and most are "lost" or tucked away in collectors hands already ... ------------------ |
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