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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 08-22-2004 12:56 AM
quote: Twice I asked for FACTS to support your statement, and you have yet to offer any, because you have none. Seeing something expensive in the background of a picture doesn't mean diddly. We all look for nice backdrops for pictures. It doesn't mean we own everything in the picture. I bet if I took a picture of my car at the racetrack, you'd fully believe that I owned the track, and was not only therefore rich, but old, and white. One last time, FACTS, not assumptions that only prove MY point. |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-22-2004 01:57 AM
quote: I offered photographic proof as a point of reference...however, I refer you to the bottom of my post...
quote: I'm not looking at the stuff in the background..that's not what interests me...it's the people in the pictures.
quote: Do you own a racetrack?
quote: Whew!...good thing this is the last time...you just won't let it go. Must touch a little too close to home. I've moved on from your little discussion. However, if it satifies your curiousity, I've determined from a random sampling, the average age of poster on this website is 50 (49.504375 rounded up) years....that information is dated, but can be found here. . Demographics of a Prowler buyer: nearly 100 per cent male, 84 per cent are married, median age of 53, median income of $200,000, and 48 per cent are business owners/proprietors. I found that information here. This message has been edited by Polioboy on 08-22-2004 at 02:00 AM |
blackcat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1744 |
posted 08-22-2004 02:27 AM
As Quoted from Polio boy. I've moved on from your little discussion. However, if it satisfies your curiosity, I've determined from a random sampling, the average age of poster on this website is 50 (49.504375 rounded up) years....that information is dated, but can be found here. . Random sampling could be correct but by no means scientific or necessarily accurate. As an example I only respond to what I consider legitimate questions or occasional flame posts like yours. Try throwing another bomb there big guy. Also if you wouldn't have come on the board in the attack mode and talked prowlers or an alternative political process I would have given you some considerations. I also think we need an alternative form of government but I think you need to work on your presentation skills. Best regards POLIO BOY. PS. Either suggest a SERIOUS alternative or zip it. You've already wasted enough of our time. |
blackcat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1744 |
posted 08-22-2004 02:44 AM
Here we go again..... PB posted. I've moved on from your little discussion. However, if it satisfies your curiosity, I've determined from a random sampling, the average age of poster on this website is 50 (49.504375 rounded up) years....that information is dated, but can be found here. . I counted somewhere between 50-60 posts from people who stated their age. Great sample. Let's see we have around 3,600 members and say 60 responded (per your post). Therefore your faulty sample rate would be .0166666. Great sample there big Flamer.. |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-22-2004 03:07 AM
quote: This is the full written text of my first post: "Someone posted the somewhat vague "resume" of John Kerry, I thought It was fair to post the "resume" of George W. also....I will preface this by saying that I'm not fond of either of the choices, however, I feel the George W. has been a failure, and it's time to give someone else the opportunity." If this is somehow construed as "attacking"..or a representation of "attack mode", I sincerly apologize. I noticed what appeared to be a political discussion, which of which politics interest me greatly, and thought I might get involved in a serious discussion, but instead this is what I got:
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quote: So far, based on your reponses to my posts, it would appear that you are the one on "attack mode". You have yet to offer any constructive thoughts on the democratic process, or our current selection of candidates (other than a few offhanded remarks or copy and pasted jokes).
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quote: My sampling is no different than a random sampling performed by say FOX News, Zogby, or Gallup. They generally poll anywhere from 1000 to 1500 people. The population of the US is 293 Million people. That would make their sample rate less than .0000005. Would you say that I'm less accurate than they are?
So, that's why I included the other independent link. This message has been edited by Polioboy on 08-23-2004 at 05:01 PM |
blackcat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1744 |
posted 08-22-2004 03:26 AM
AS I said in my previous post as opposed to cut and paste which you're very good at and I don't recall any "other than a few offhanded remarks or copy and pasted jokes)". WHY DON"T YOU SUGGEST a workable solution. I'd be very interested as would many others I'm sure! If you can't then zip it!!!!!!!!! you are selectively cutting and pasting my responses at this point and like many politicians they are selective and out of context and out of touch with the rest of the population. Sooooo........here's your big chance. Suggest a solution and don't just continue to identify problems................ This message has been edited by blackcat on 08-22-2004 at 03:32 AM |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-22-2004 03:36 AM
quote: It may be hard to keep up, but I did post this quite a while ago: "I think we need to start organizing now in order to deprogram folks into being scared to vote for who they really think would do a good job....unfortunately.... too many people are still believing the "if I vote outside the system,then I might as well not vote at all" rhetoric. I am sick of this vote for the lesser of two evils crap..... it's been going on for years, no one has been truly satisfied with the candidates." Try and keep up, ok?
quote: I don't see myself as identifying problems so much as attempting to dispel certain myths and mindsets. I see my conversations with rsterling, butchee, and idive as being somewhat productive, and a learning experience, at least for myself. |
blackcat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1744 |
posted 08-22-2004 03:43 AM
It may be hard to keep up, but I did post this quite a while ago: "I think we need to start organizing now in order to deprogram folks into being scared to vote for who they really think would do a good job....unfortunately.... too many people are still believing the "if I vote outside the system,then I might as well not vote at all" rhetoric. I am sick of this vote for the lesser of two evils crap..... it's been going on for years, no one has been truly satisfied with the candidates." Try and keep up, ok? I did read it and I can keep up thank you. Now what I'd like to hear is how you would propose accomplishing this. Maybe that's where I'm missing your point. I'd love to have a 3rd party that really meant something in this country but it doesn't exist. So how do you suggest we start the movement? I always have thought about buying an island 4 miles off the coast........ This message has been edited by blackcat on 08-22-2004 at 03:50 AM |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-22-2004 04:00 AM
quote: You might want to consider the Dominican Republic...Their economy is recovering now, and if you can get over the fact that their neighbors with Haiti, it's quite pleasant. An actor friend of mine was on location there earlier this spring, and has since fallen in love with it....he's telling me that for $200 a month, he's got a house on 200 feet of white sand beach, with a housekeeper twice a week. The wife and I are going out there for Christmas to check it out.
quote: This is something that has to start, most likely, in the school system. That is where we learn about the electoral process...I can remember, way back when, I was only told about the two political parties - and that you had to choose a side. Unfortunately, I don't identify with either....at least in the current sense of the political spectrum. Eventually, I'd like to see an end to the two party system, and a drastic form campaign finance reform... what that would be, I don't know...but it has to start at the root of the problem, which is where we are programmed to believe in the "two party only" system. This message has been edited by Polioboy on 08-22-2004 at 04:02 AM |
rsterling78 Prowler Junkie Posts: 286 |
posted 08-22-2004 06:46 AM
There's a lot of love in this thread. Polioboy said:
quote: and so you want to dismiss anything they say out of hand as inaccurate. Why? If Rush Limbaugh says 2 + 2 = 4, do you think this is inaccurate just because you disagree with his politics? I've used the Heritage Foundation to keep up certain issues myself because the HF conducts studies which they back up with references, facts, and logic. The same thing can be said for the attacks on John Kerry's Vietnam service. There are major discrepencies in his story, such as saying that he was in Cambodia on a secret mission on December 24, 1968 on orders from the Nixon administration. Kerry has even said that this event was "seared" in his memory. For starters, Nixon was not President in 1968. Kerry said on the Senate Floor in 1986, "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians..." The problem with this is that the Khmer Rouge did not enage in any hostilities until 1972. It's understandable why so many people on the left prefer to dismiss criticism from the right as biased and therefore not to be taken seriously. The alternative would be to face those annoying little things conservatives keep harping about all the time: little things called "facts." |
GenoTex Prowler Junkie Posts: 8492 |
posted 08-22-2004 11:44 PM
"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."- John F. Kerry "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."- John F. Kerry "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."- John F. Kerry "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."- John F. Kerry "The future will be better tomorrow."- John F. Kerry "We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."- John F. Kerry "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."- John F. Kerry "We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."- John F. Kerry "Public speaking is very easy."- John F. Kerry "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."- John F. Kerry "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."- John F. Kerry "For NASA, space is still a high priority."- John F. Kerry "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."- John F. Kerry "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."- John F. Kerry "It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."- John F. Kerry Starting to wonder if this guy ever took the IQ test... and if so, did his results come back negative?!?!?!? |
idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 08-23-2004 03:08 AM
In reading the posts in this thread, I have noticed that many have one common notation... that the press doesn't seem to be reporting on, or following up on these things. This is something that maybe we, as a group, can move to change. If you go to cbsnews.com http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml and scroll to the bottom, there is a link to "contact us". This will open up another window where you can email CBS News. I don't know whether or not there is a limit on how long a message you can leave there. You can also click on "CBS news bios" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/17/utility/main525997.shtml at the bottom of the main page. It lists all CBS news personnel. Clicking on a name there will take you to that person's bio. On the right side of their bio at the top is a link for that person's "contact info". Some of the names will not have contact info. If you encounter this, just go back and find another name that has the contact info link for them. Send an email to the newsperson of your choice, or choose several to write to, and forward to them some of these facts we've posted here, and any related emails you have received, and ask them why they don't seem to be reporting these things. Apologize in advance for missing it if they have. Tell them that you hope they will follow up on them and inform the public of these facts. Please stick to the facts. No nasty emails please, as this will most likely not get a response. If you have an email that you are uncertain if it is true or not, tell them so, and ask that they check it out, and report publicly on their findings if they find that it is true. Maybe if enough people question these things, someone will do a story on them, and bring the truth to light. (Take note that as of late, some of these things have been brought to light in the news. I believe that more needs to be reported on, however.) I've watched "Face the Nation" on Sunday morning and I really think Bob Schieffer (based on his questions to a Kerry "person") is not too happy with the "Kerry campaign". I also think Andy Rooney might be interested in the piece on Mrs. Kerry on this thread, or any of the other facts on here, although I don't think I've seen any politically motivated pieces on his portion of 60 Minutes. It's worth a try. Don't limit this to CBS. You can do the same to ABC, NBC, and CNN as well as your local stations and newspapers. You don't need to limit yourself to only Bush supporters. The Kerry supporters need to be informed of these things as well. We don't care who they support, as long as the word gets out and these facts are reported on. Spread the word. |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-23-2004 08:05 AM
quote: No...but I definately would look at anything they say with a weary eye...because they've already told me they're biased means that any sort of "evidence" they may have is tainted, and needs to be looked at and verified by independent sources.
quote: No...I listen to Rush about two or three times a week, and yes, he's right, mostly. But I also know that he's an entertainer first, so anything he's going to tell me is going to be checked out...
quote: Great, but do you verify those facts anywhere else? Many websites from both sides of the argument can say the same thing...they back up their "facts" with reference and logic...but as I've pointed out in my review of the article; although it's fill with facts, they don't necessarily represent all sides of the issue..you have to look closer. You don't have to change your politics to do this, you just need to want to do the homework, become better informed. I personally like using www.factcheck.org ...that website serves as a starting point for my research..they don't cover all the issues, however, they do address some of the more controversial ones...(John Kerry's war service, Bush's tax cuts, Medicare reform, Kerry's voting record)
quote: just as there are major discrepencies in Bush's account regarding his service...so what?
quote: That's fine but those on the left claim to use "facts" also..it's important to check those out too. I think that's the big divider these days...neither side is willing to come to the table and verify these "facts"...it's easy to find facts that ring true to your particular ideology...but you have to go one step further, and not only verify those facts, but see if you can disprove them yourself...I'm not picking on the "right" here, nor the "left"...both sides are at fault.
quote: Testify!....now we're getting somewhere!...great idea! I have taken time to write to the Tribune and the Pioneer Press in the past...I have also discussed some of this with the program director of FOX 9 here in Minneapolis (he's married to my wife's best friend). It's time to be an American, and a Patriot, and start asking the questions we want to know, and not leave it up to the Media....They've made themselves out to be a disapointment...
quote: Amen. This message has been edited by Polioboy on 08-23-2004 at 08:09 AM |
Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 |
posted 08-23-2004 08:16 AM
Geno - I've seen those exact quotes several times previously and they were attributed to George Bush. I know there is a book out on "Bushisms" but I have not read it. |
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 4576 |
posted 08-23-2004 12:16 PM
quote: Pretty much so. The U.S. has 293 MILLION, Not Billion. |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-23-2004 05:04 PM
Hey, cut me some slack..it was 3 am in the morning...and the "B" is awfully close to the "M"... I corrected my the snafu, however, the math was correct... |
butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 |
posted 08-24-2004 05:08 AM
anyone know what these are? 1: Procedural Motion - Adjourn to Time Certain 186: FY ’04 Def. Auth. - Nucl. Weapons Study 289: Duncan Nomination - Confirmation 363: Burns Nomination - Confirmation |
Black Tie 161 Prowler Junkie Posts: 3563 |
posted 08-24-2004 07:35 AM
This whole %$#@! thread should be deleted. Noone's making friends here...None of us would waste our time talking like this at an event..... Let's talk about something cool....like Olympic Womens beach volleyball... |
Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 |
posted 08-24-2004 07:43 AM
I agree BT, this thread ought to be nuked! Beach Volleyball IS my new favorite sport! It's easy to understand and keep score, it's exciting and the skill and precision of the athletes is just amazing. Ohhhhh yeeeeaaaaah, they seem to be in fine condition! |
Polioboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 70 |
posted 08-24-2004 07:47 AM
Do they serve Hot Wings and beer at this event? |
Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 |
posted 08-24-2004 08:01 AM
YES!!! |
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 |
posted 08-24-2004 08:05 AM
I haven't posted much on this thread, other than with regard to my son. I haven't looked at this thread in a while (I've been busy ) and was reading it to catch up. I see that we agree to disagree and isn't it great that we live in a country that allows us to do that? The one comment that does bother me is the one about the majority of the people on this site who own these cars are white, rich and old. As several already stated, that is an unfair statement. This group is made up of a very diverse group of people. Not all of us are old, rich or white. Yes, I am white........I was born that way. No, my husband and I are not rich. We married at 18/20 and had nothing. We've worked hard for 37 years to get to this point in our life. My two cats were anniversary gifts (I only ever hoped to just have one - he decided to buy the second). My husband sacrificed to pay for them and I love him to death for being so unselfish. The majority of the people on this site are not wealthy, they work hard to pay for something that makes them very happy....and feel it is worth it to do that. Old?? Old is a relative term. Who decides what is old? I will be 56 years old in December and there is no way that I consider myself old. My grandmother passed away when she was 96 years old.......now that I would consider old.........which means I have 40 more years before I am old. |
butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 |
posted 08-24-2004 09:34 AM
I can't agree with you that this thread is causing ill feeling. Polioboy took a lot of hits and is still here to joke around. I personally don't dislike anyone that differs in a view from mine.I find it stimulating and a learning experience if the ideas are backed with fact, even if a little skewed. I posted the votes missed by JFK lite and found it interesting that someone representing the people can be absent so often. With the amount of perks these guys get, both sides, they should be there when the door opens. WTF is going on and why have we let them slip so far? The olympic honeys are great to look at, but I never lose site of the fact that they're representing our country and have worked hard to get to that position--with maybe the exception of the men's basketball team..I think they suck and I don't see the spark in their eyes that it takes to excell.---JMO |
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 08-25-2004 12:25 AM
Butchcee, the mens basketball team lacks diversity, just like this site. You have jerks who have been jerks their entire lives only now they are all millionaire jerks. They want to be the star and do not understand TEAM. It is me, me, me. Think about college basketball. You have all these really talented guys and then some small college knocks them off in the tournament because they play defense and play as a team. That is where the coach comes in. In pro-ball, they aren't about to listen to the low paid coach. It is show time. They bounce the ball twice on the way up the court, the last dribble at the top of the key, palming the ball on every dribble and then travel and DUNK it. Then they high five everyone, puff out there chest and throw the "I'm number one" in the air. I have never seen a professional basketball game, even on TV. I have seen a few minutes of it here and there but have no interest in it. High school is much more entertaining and college was great until about 10 years ago but it is slipping, too. We would be better off with a bunch of college guys representing us. They want to be there and would give it their all. JMO |
butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 |
posted 08-25-2004 01:47 AM
good Ed, Really good |
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