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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 03-22-2005 06:36 PM
...and 75% is taxes..... |
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Dustis unregistered Posts: 11086 |
posted 03-22-2005 06:41 PM
Yes Larry, absolutely - that is ONE BIG misconception here in the U.S. that gasoline is "expensive" - Europe's gasoline prices are ALL around $ 5,- to $ 6,- PER GALLON !! So no need to panic just yet !! |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 11086 |
posted 03-22-2005 07:29 PM
Are there any alternatives to paying high gas prices ? You know that if people consumed less beef and more vegetables it would free up alot of farmland to produce veggies for the production of methanol.. this can be used with hydrocarbons to produce fuel that burns cleaner, keeps people employed, and in the long run is better for human health....then maybe the fuel would be cheaper.. I bet there are some of the members that know the details.... food for thought: 1 acre of prime land can produce 250 lbs of beef annually. This same acre can produce 40,000 lbs of potatoes or 30,000 lbs of carrots, or 50,000 lbs of tomatoes. |
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SirReal Prowler Junkie Posts: 3332 |
posted 03-22-2005 07:44 PM
halicat I know of an alternate solution but it would be very, very unpopular. We all complain about high gas prices as we're driving faster than we have to.(told you it was unpopular) Though the posted speed limit on my local beltway is 55, the average speed is around 70. Can you imagine if we as a nation drove the speed limit for just one day, how many barrels would not be used. Here we drive at 70 so we can get to the congestion faster and sit in idling cars inching along until we can punch it again. I guess it's a case of 'We'll Show Us' lol The sad part is driving on the beltway here at posted speed is the most dangerous thing you can do. Jeff This message has been edited by SirReal on 03-22-2005 at 07:45 PM |
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 03-22-2005 07:49 PM
quote: gas was $2.50 per gallon 30 years ago when I lived in China.....they all ride scooters and bicycles....interstates were deserted....could be time to purchase stock in Schwinn and Vespa |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-22-2005 10:21 PM
As the weather improves i'm going to be riding my Harleys alot more. On one i get nearly 45 mpg and on the bagger i get over 50 mpg. |
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Austrian Prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 323 |
posted 03-23-2005 03:13 PM
Yep, that´s normal here in Europe.  We have to pay 5 - 6USD per Gallon since a long time. And this all, because of the high taxes. This is why 75% of all new cars have a diesel motor! But, have we an alternative to pay this high gas prices? |
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pumpkin Prowler Junkie Posts: 7907 |
posted 03-23-2005 03:58 PM
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Randy Cobb Prowler Junkie Posts: 4070 |
posted 03-23-2005 04:18 PM
Halicat - Widespread use of ethanol or metanol are not practical for use by the motoring public. First - Without SUBSTANTIAL government subsidies,i.e. ADM and the Farm Bill for corn, neither are economically feasible. Production costs are extremely high. Second - Both products are very corrosive and take special handling that the typical engine, gas tank, station tank, pump, pipeline can't handle. Blended with with gas in small amounts with corrosion inhibitors injected in, ethanol can be used in small segments of the country. Third - Along the same lines as #2 both products have properties that take in water from the atmosphere and in many cases where either are blended into gas in small amounts (even if handled properly with the lowest water content possible), problems can occur with cars because car tanks aren't as water free as needed. Trust me. We have tried both with catastrophic consequences. |
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SERIB Prowler Junkie Posts: 445 |
posted 03-23-2005 06:57 PM
I thought gas was sold in liters in Europe? |
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 03-23-2005 07:03 PM
quote: it is....it is just converted to gallons so us dumb Americans can figure it out |
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 |
posted 03-23-2005 07:24 PM
quote: Would love to see Michigan drivers do that, but it would be highly unlikely! I don't think Michigan drivers know how to read speed limit signs! |
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 03-23-2005 10:15 PM
3.785 liters per gallon. I thought liters were the first part of hosen in Germany. |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 03-24-2005 07:20 AM
quote: 60 in a 45 would be the normal flow of traffic on Phx. streets,,,,you don't want to be ran over. |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 36093 |
posted 03-24-2005 07:30 AM
Thanks Randy for the info.... I have only heard the advantages of gasohol...its great to have someone share what they know.... lets hope there is someway to save the environment, and our wallets at the same time....they are trying a mixture of diesel and fish oil here. The fish oil only costs the shipping charges as the manufacturer has the oil as a by-product waste. The same idea as mixing vegetable oil with diesel some places are doing. |
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SERIB Prowler Junkie Posts: 445 |
posted 03-24-2005 07:34 AM
Fish oil?  |
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Bama Kat Prowler Junkie Posts: 464 |
posted 03-24-2005 07:53 AM
75-80 is normal interstate speeds in Alabama Mike |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 464 |
posted 03-24-2005 07:56 AM
yep, fish oil... they are getting it from south america.. i'll see if i can find an article on it... couldn't find anything on fish....but this is even more bizzare.. This message has been edited by halicat on 03-24-2005 at 08:02 AM |
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Austrian Prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 323 |
posted 03-24-2005 04:36 PM
quote: 95% of the gas stations are self service. |
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Austrian Prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 323 |
posted 03-24-2005 04:44 PM
quote: Yep, metric system here, so liters. Here is a link to gas prices for 95 octan in the European Union. http://www.bmwa.gv.at/BMWA/Service/Benzinpreismonitor/EU_Brutto_Super95/default.htm You all can be happy with your gas prices Gery This message has been edited by Austrian Prowler on 03-24-2005 at 04:45 PM |
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SirReal Prowler Junkie Posts: 3332 |
posted 03-24-2005 05:00 PM
Another alternative-Intelligent traffic signals. How many times have you come upon a traffic signal and you're the only car in sight and have to slam on the brakes for a red light and sit there and idle your gas away? It would be great if the traffic signal acknowledged your approach and saw there were no other cars coming from other directions and stayed green. On a nationwide basis that would save a lot of barrels and extend our future use of oil. This message has been edited by SirReal on 03-24-2005 at 05:01 PM |
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Thunder Prowler Junkie Posts: 456 |
posted 03-24-2005 09:12 PM
We need an alternative fuel source A.S.A.P. for many reasons. We would save our planet and our terrorist countries would be broke overnight.....aren't these good enough reasons? |
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Randy Cobb Prowler Junkie Posts: 4070 |
posted 03-25-2005 12:08 PM
halicat - Biodiesel is catching some footing here with governmental uses for buses, etc. Biodeisel is diesel with 5 to 7% of soy oil (from soy beans) blended. But again, without substantial subsidies and tax breaks it too is not economically feasible. Fossil fuels are still the most economic source of energy for internal combustion engines there is, plus the distribution system is in place. |
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