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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 445 From: Lebanon, Ohio, USA Registered: JUL 2004	posted 08-11-2004 06:09 PM Not necessarily who you want to win but, who will win and why? Will it be a sqweeker as the press claim or a walk away for one? I believe President Bush can and will win but, to ensure it, Clinton's will leak some incredibly damaging dirt on Kerry at the last minute and claim it came from the republicans. Alternatively, if the find Oshama in October (October surprise) it will be all over for Kerry.
jkburns Prowler Junkie Posts: 1370 From: Mankato, Minnesota, USA Registered: MAR 2002	posted 08-11-2004 06:11 PM Kerry by quite a large margin. I believe many, many people in this country want a change. Kevin ------------------ Kevin, Jo Ann, Jordan and Sadie Burns 2002 Inca Gold Borla Exhaust — K & N Air Filter — MTD Suspension Braces — Ceramic Brake Pads — Front and Rear Mud Flaps — Gold Shimmers — Real Rod Trans Cooler Cover — Dek-Pro-Tec — Fuzzy Dice — KISS in the CD Changer
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 1370 From: Mankato, Minnesota, USA Registered: MAR 2002	posted 08-11-2004 06:29 PM quote: Originally posted by jkburns: Kerry by quite a large margin. I believe many, many people in this country want a change. Kevin That is what the media keeps telling us but, I'm not finding folks that feel that way. What is it that Kerry can do better and why? He's for the war but, wants to get our troops out early with a coalition of other countries to provide troops but, no country large enough to send troops will. He says he can create something like 4 million jobs but, how? Force companies to hire? Change sometimes isn't a bad thing if there is a decided path and we all agree and know where it's going. Kerry doesn't have a plan that I nor anyone I know can see. Kerry also proposes MORE government programs and wants to repeal your tax break (albeit a small one but, he wants it back)
Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 From: Johnstown, PA, USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 08:29 PM I think we loose either way....none of the above
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 From: Acworth,GA,USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 08:40 PM I initally thought it was going to be a tight race. But Kerry came out of the Democratic Convention without getting the traditional 5 to 10 percent boost in the polls. I think Kerry is and will continue to self destruct because he continues his flip flopping, has not offered any real plans of action. His record in the Senate is abysmal showing his extreme far left policys. His actions after returning from Vietnam bordered on treason. He placed many American lives in deeper jeopardy by giving the enemy more reason to continue the war. As a Vietnam Vet I will never forgive him or Hanoi Jane and their kind for their actions. I think after the Republican Convention you will see a big boost for Bush. I am not saying Bush is perfect, but he is far better choice than Kerry. I wish Zell Miller or even Joe Lieberman was running. Either one would get my vote because thier politics are from the heart and no the party line. I don't vote the party I vote for the man. Kerry is not the right man. JMO.
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 09:07 PM Rich, I agree with most of what you said. I cannot stomach Kerry. Edwards seems like a pretty boy, also. Not that the VP makes much difference. Bush leaves a lot to be desired but is heads and shoulders above Kerry. I find it incredible that unions are backing Kerry because he is a Democrat. He and his wife own Heinz and almost all of that is in foreign countries.
Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003	posted 08-11-2004 09:07 PM Kerry, and it won't be close. Talk about flip flops. Bush has publicly stated four different reasons for the invasion of Iraq: (1)WMDs-WRONG (2)Terrorist connection-WRONG; (3) Not a nice guy/brutal dictator-SO IS FIDEL CASTRO, ROBERT MUGABE, etc, etc; and (4) a month ago he said the invasion was part of a three-pronged foreign policy agenda...we're still waiting to hear what the other two "prongs" are. No, I am not that high on Kerry either. I'd vote for John McCain if he was running.
rsterling78 Prowler Junkie Posts: 286 From: Huntsville, Alabama, USA Registered: MAR 2004	posted 08-11-2004 10:22 PM It'll be interesting to see how the debates shake things up. My prediction: Bush will win. It won't be a landslide, but we won't have another 2000 election either.
Wayne Finch Prowler Junkie Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:23 PM The more scrutiny on Kerry, the better for Bush. I cannot believe Kerry is the best the democrats have to offer. This guy has zero, make that ZERO, credentials to be President. He flip-flops on every issue and makes gaffes everytime he talks. Kerry has had all the spotlight to himself with the nomination, running mate slection and the covention and is only neck and neck among decided voters likely to cast a vote. Once the Republicans have their convention and more intense scrutiny occurs, Bush should pull ahead by a wide margin.
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:26 PM A woman bought a new Lexus LS400, and returned the next day, complaining that she couldn't figure out how the radio worked. The salesman explained that the radio was voice activated. "Watch this!" he said..."Nelson!" The radio replied, "Ricky or Willie?" "Willie!" he continued....and "On The Road Again" came from the speakers. The woman drove away happy, and for the next few days, every time she'd say, "Beethoven", she'd get beautiful classical music, and if she said, "Beatles!" she'd get one of their awesome songs. One day, a couple ran a red light and nearly creamed her new car, but she swerved in time to avoid them. "*******S!" she yelled....... The French National Anthem began to play, sung by the Dixie Chicks, Jane Fonda, John Kerry and Michael Moore.
Wayne Finch Prowler Junkie Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:26 PM quote: Originally posted by Bob Miller: (1)WMDs-WRONG - I wouldn't be so sure - just because they weren't found, doesn't mean they were not there (2)Terrorist connection-WRONG - highly unlikely that there isn't a connection; (3) Not a nice guy/brutal dictator-SO IS FIDEL CASTRO, ROBERT MUGABE, etc, etc; - and he was killing thousands of his own people (4) a month ago he said the invasion was part of a three-pronged foreign policy agenda...we're still waiting to hear what the other two "prongs" are. This message has been edited by Wayne Finch on 08-11-2004 at 10:27 PM
Stone Cold Prowler Junkie Posts: 28 From: Sachse Tx. USA Registered: JUN 2004	posted 08-11-2004 10:35 PM Ed, That was Great!
Wayne Finch Prowler Junkie Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:35 PM Read this and see if you can still stomach voting for Kerry http://www.powmiafamiliesagainstjohnkerry.com/
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:36 PM You're going to vote for which one!!!!!
Wayne Finch Prowler Junkie Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:38 PM Two alligators were sitting at the side of the swamp. The smaller one turned to the bigger one and said, "I can't understand how you can be so much bigger 'n me. We're the same age, we was the same size as kids. I just don't get it." "Well," said the big gator, "What you been eatin?" "Democrats, same as you" replied the small gator. "Hmm. Well, where do ya catch em?" "Down at the other side of the swamp near the parkin lot by Boudreaux's" "Same here. Hmm. How do you catch em?" "Well, I crawls up under one of them Chevys and waits fer someone to unlock the door. Then I jumps out, grabs em on the leg, shake the crap out of em and eats em!" "Ah! " says the big alligator, "I think I see your problem. You ain't getting any real nourishment. See, by the time you get done shakin the crap out of a Democrat, there ain't nothin left but lips and a briefcase" This message has been edited by Wayne Finch on 08-11-2004 at 10:38 PM
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:40 PM
TBlatnica Prowler Junkie Posts: 60 From: Natick, MA, USA Registered: JUN 2004	posted 08-11-2004 10:50 PM One option me and members of my family have been thinking of, goes along with what Wayne said about how he can't believe Kerry is the best the democrats have to offer: What if he is cannon fodder they are just firing at an incumbent President? We all know the one they want is Sen. Clinton, but do you want to throw her up against a strong incumbent or up against, hmm who do the Republicans have to offer up in 4 years? Not Cheney, and honestly no one that I can really think of that comes to mind as a strong presidential choice. In the DNC's eyes if Kerry wins, then so be it, they have gotten Edwards the Executive experience to push him for Pres, with Sen. Clinton after Kerry is out.I honestly don't think they wanted Kerry as their front runner, but once he got the nod after Dean had his "I want to be like Hulk Hogan" tirade, they didn't have much choice and had to run with what they got stuck with. If he loses, well, I don't think they cared in the first place. And they will just be pushing for 2008. This reminds me of the thing the DNC did when Dukakis stuck his head out of the Tank, they began grooming then Gov. Clinton to take the helm. It should be interesting to watch. ------------------ Tony Blatnica
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-11-2004 10:55 PM Subject: Presidential support If you support the policies and character of George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights on during the day on Friday. If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights off that night. Thank you Vote early and vote OFTEN, except in Florida where the votes are already tabulated. lol. This message has been edited by ed monahan on 08-11-2004 at 10:56 PM
butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-12-2004 01:30 AM With recent talk about a possible assassination attempt by UBL, I hope it's not a Cheney/Kerry election.
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000	posted 08-12-2004 07:10 AM quote: Originally posted by Bob Miller: Kerry, and it won't be close. Talk about flip flops. Bush has publicly stated four different reasons for the invasion of Iraq: (1)WMDs-WRONG Uh, Kerry is ON RECORD as saying Iraq has...ummmm...WMD. They have also found buried instruments in scientists back yards there, proof they were trying to acquire weapons grade plutonium in Nigeria, ad nauseum.... (2)Terrorist connection-WRONG; Humm, Al-Quida operatives have been found in Iraq, a terrorist training facility with...ummm. a shell of a 707 was found there, and a handful of folks in this country were just arrested that are part of a group that.....umm...how do you say, are part of a religious group in Iraq. (3) Not a nice guy/brutal dictator-SO IS FIDEL CASTRO, ROBERT MUGABE, etc, etc; and I agree, they are all bad. Sadam has killed hundreds of thousands of folks and pillaged neighboring countries. There is alot to do with stability of the worlds oil (in Saudi Arabia - which Sadam was ultimately going after) that has to do with it. This would take volumes to explain. (4) a month ago he said the invasion was part of a three-pronged foreign policy agenda...we're still waiting to hear what the other two "prongs" are. Honestly, I don't know what speech you are refering to that happened a month ago but, to put it in perspective, Kerry says he has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. When asked about it, he said that a true diplomat never talks about the issue. Hummm, great answer. No, I am not that high on Kerry either. I'd vote for John McCain if he was running. Kerry was just political fallout. I don't think anyone in the DNC wanted him, they were just scared as hell about Dean. Is it me or does Kerrys wife looked stoned every time we see her?
Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003	posted 08-12-2004 07:40 AM Seems to me this country is in dire need of major election reform. The current electoral system produces candidates with great hair, big egos, the gift of BS and little else. John McCain had the right idea several years back about election reforms, but it wasn't politically expedient, so he was largely ignored. I admire a candidate who speaks about what's best for this country and not necessarily what's best for their own political career. I guess until we have genuine election reforms we'll always be voting for the lesser of two evils.
tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000	posted 08-12-2004 07:50 AM ...the professional gamblers(oddsmakers)are saying Bush by a large majority....
DR PROWLER Prowler Junkie Posts: 4079 From: TORONTO,ONTARIO,CANADA Registered: JUL 2002	posted 08-12-2004 08:36 AM By what everyone is saying around me,Bush should be a clear winner......and i hope he is! Kerry doesn't turn my crank in the least and if people want change....that would probably certainly be a change....for the worse! Let's just hope the election goes smooth without any terrorist threats! ------------------
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000	posted 08-12-2004 08:38 AM quote: Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE: ...the professional gamblers(oddsmakers)are saying Bush by a large majority.... Pete Rose agrees and is betting that way. lol
dbickel Prowler Junkie Posts: 57 From: Charleston, S.C. Registered: JUL 2002	posted 08-12-2004 09:31 AM quote: Originally posted by Dave Mills: I think we loose either way....none of the above I agree 100%. Is it still considered an "election" when you have to choose who you dislike the least? I am a registered Republican but I do not approve of the job Bush has done.But I do not feel Kerry can do a better job.

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