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JCProwler
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posted 08-12-2004 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCProwler     
Kerrys wife, a first lady, no way! I think Bush will win...


YellowFever
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posted 08-12-2004 10:13 AM           
Saw a great bumper sticker today

911% President Bush Backer

YellowFever
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posted 08-12-2004 11:44 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by butchcee:
With recent talk about a possible assassination attempt by UBL, I hope it's not a Cheney/Kerry election.

The one thing these yahoo's probably haven't figured out is that tragedies like Pearl Harbor and 911 pull this country together.

They try something like this before the election to get a different result and well, they may not like the result they get........




YellowFever
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posted 08-12-2004 02:55 PM           
Kerry has made patching up ties with traditional allies who did not support the March 2003 invasion of Iraq a key theme of his foreign policy message, saying this will help bring US troops home more quickly.

Interesting, since both Germany and France have both stated that they WILL NOT NOW OR EVER SEND TROOPS TO IRAQ.
Russia has also stated it too has no interest in sending any troops there.

So who exactly will relieve our troops Mr. Kerry?????



butchcee
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posted 08-12-2004 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     



ALLEY CAT
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posted 08-12-2004 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Al - your picture on the right,,,,,, that is CASH & Kerry!



rsterling78
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posted 08-12-2004 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rsterling78     
WAR OF WORDS UPDATE

Senator Kerry about one week ago:

quote:

I believe I can fight a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on terror that reaches out to other nations and brings them to our side and lives up to American values in history.

Vice President Cheney's response:

quote:

America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes, but not a one of them was won by being sensitive. A sensitive war will not destroy the evil men who killed 3,000 Americans. ... The men who beheaded Daniel Pearl and Paul Johnson will not be impressed by our sensitivity.

quote:

President Lincoln and General Grant didn't wage sensitive wars. Nor did President Roosevelt or Generals Eisenhower and MacArthur.



Bob Miller
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posted 08-12-2004 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Miller     
Yea, I'm not quite sure what a "sensitive" war is? Is he saying we shouldn't hurt the enemy's feelings or something? I'm yoo tired and sleepy to figure that nonsense out.


Gene
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posted 08-12-2004 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gene     
I don't know if Kerry is the answer but I feel we need a change.


ed monahan
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posted 08-12-2004 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     
The VFW will be in Cincinnati next week. Both Pres. Bush and Sen. Kerry are supposed to address them. It will be interesting to hear those reports.
Todays paper had a blurb about the 20 men in the same unit as Kerry. They accused him of inflicting the wounds upon himself to get out of V.N. Eleven of the men spoke poorly of him, two are dead, four did not want to comment and two are for Kerry. (Kerry is the 20th)
I still think the Republicans ought to keep showing him and Edwards hugging and throwing the football. That should make any straight guy vote for Bush.


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posted 08-13-2004 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
SOBERING MESSAGE, ATTN: All Veterans

Don Bendell is a former 'Green Beret' captain, who served in Vietnam on
an A-Team and in the Top Secret Phoenix program in 1968 and 1969, as well
as in three other Special Forces Groups. He is a best-selling author of 21
books, with over 1,500,000 copies of his books in print worldwide, and a
seventh degree black master in four martial arts, who was inducted into
the International Karate Hall of Fame in 1995 and Martial Arts Museum of
America in 1996. email:don@donbendell.com


Thank you, John Kerry, for helping make us Vietnam veterans 'war heroes'
now, but you also were the 'primary reason' that the American public grabbed
sturdy unbending brooms of judgment and swept us into the closet of 'silence
and shame' for so many years. Now, with your latest unreported insanity, you
are getting ready for our society to grab those same stiff brooms and
sweep our brave, noble young men and women fighting against the War on
Terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, into that cold, dark cell of
heartbreak and betrayal, like we Vietnam veterans had to endure in silent
dignity.
I cannot and will not watch this country go through that again.

The hardcore America-hating, Israel-hating, jihad-spouting Muslim clerics
in the Mideast are very excited and passing around a front page newspaper
story from the very anti-American TEHRAN TIMES in Iran. In the country
that is home of the world's toughest theocratic dictatorship, an e-mail from
Presidential nominee, you, John Forbes Kerry, sent to the paper by your
campaign committee, although they deny sending it, was printed word-for-word
on the front page of Iran's main newspaper.

Your message states emphatically that, if elected President, you, John
Kerry plan to travel to the Mideast and elsewhere and apologize for our
actions and the actions of President Bush in the War on Terror. You are
already apologizing. It says that you plan to apologize to friends and foes
alike. That is right, folks. John Kerry will say he is "sorry," and in his
mind, all those jihad extremists, who have vowed to kill all Americans
wherever we are, will simply forgive us, hold hands with Kerry, start
singing "Kumbaya," and all will be right in the world. This is insane! You
have also made statements you will do these actions within 100 days of
becoming President.

Senior writer Kenneth R. Timmerman in the March 1st edition of INSIGHT,
tells about the massive campaign contributions to the Kerry-for-President
campaign by three Iranian businessmen living in the US, who are lobbying for
the US lifting of sanctions on Iran and accepting the anti-Christian,
anti-Jewish, anti-American Tehran regime and the close ties of one to the
chairman of Mobil Oil. "Pro-democracy dissidents" in Iran are shocked and
appalled at your remarks, and have reported that in Iran and other
Mideastern countries, that all the extremists and anti-west mullahs who
strongly supported the attacks on the World Trade Center, Pentagon, USS
Cole, Marine Barracks, and anyplace Americans congregate, want you to become
our President, but they are scared to death of George W. Bush. Just think,
the Democratic candidate for President, you, John Forbes Kerry, is endorsed
by the Al Q'Aida, Hezbollah, PLF, and Hamas.

But on February 27, 2004, in a speech at UCLA , you, while trying to talk
tough, despite voting against all major weapons systems for the past 18
years, stated that you will continue the War on Terror, but would use our
police forces, and especially those in foreign countries, and you would also
put our troops back under the powder blue flag of the United Nations. You
recently made comments about Bush making troops fight without Kevlar vests,
but you, Senator Kerry, voted against buying them while you were in the
Senate. Senate Bill 1689. Passed 87-12. You were one of the 12. Remember?

Like the Kama Sutra, Senator, you change positions constantly. You're not
going to end the War on Terror, but instead use police to handcuff
terrorists and read them their rights; then a week later, you are going to
end the War on Terrorism and apologize to everyone we have offended, such as
Iran. What is it going be next week, John Kerry? You flip-flop more than a
beached tuna on steroids.

You convinced TV reporters Chris Wallace on Fox and NBC's Tim Russert that
a photograph circulating the web and news showing you a few rows away from
Jane Fonda at a September, 1970 Antiwar Rally at Valley Forge, was
simply a coincidence and that you and Hanoi Jane barely knew each other.
But, in fact, Senator, there were only 8 speakers that day, including Fonda,
Donald Southerland, and Bella Abzug, and Hanoi Jane funded that rally, and
the keynote speaker was you, John Forbes Kerry, executive committee member
of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

We must be Americans first, and think about our political parties after
that. Sometimes we lose sight of that. I have six grown children and two are
democrats. I voted for Jimmy Carter. This is not about politics. It is about
standing up to the ultimate playground bully, and not simply 'cowering' and
kissing his shoes.

I left it "all on the field" in the jungles back there when I was
medevaced out of Vietnam in March of 1969 and sent back to hospitals in
"The World."
Although You, Mr. Kerry, painted all of us Vietnam veterans with the
yellow brush of My Lai and Tiger Force, most of us, draftees and lifers
alike, actually poured our hearts out in the tropical rain forests and in
the rice paddies, thoroughly gave it our all, and acted as warriors who had
honor.

I have a son earning his green beret at Fort Bragg right now and a
daughter-in-law who was on orders for Iraq but is making me a grandpa again.
I am not going to stand by and watch them go through the same treatment we
did, because some of our well-meaning fellow Americans choose to wear
blinders and believe things just because they heard it on the network news
or simply not care enough to get involved.

I am not a "baby-killer, torturer, or murderer," John Kerry.. I am a
Vietnam veteran and an American who will not soon forget, or ever want to
see again, any more jets loaded with fuel and screaming, innocent Americans
slamming into our buildings on our very own soil. I have shed enough tears
for ten lifetimes. We all have. I will never again let my fellow
countrymen get away with making American veterans feel like bastard
stepchildren.

Santayana said, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to
repeat it."

John Kerry, I now call on my "Band of Brothers," those who have heard the
sound of guns and cries of orphaned children, those who hate war more than
anyone who has not been there, to join me in this difficult battle ahead.

Republicans, democrats, independents, and the apolitical, I call on the
25,000,000 veterans of this country to help me confront this evil facing
our great nation, not with guns and bombs, but with our voices, our votes,
our computers, and with all our fighting spirit.

My fellow veterans, your families, survivors, and neighbors: God bless you
and God bless America.

You want proof of all I have to say. Here are the references
http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_2889.shtml

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=6246

http://www.iranvajahan.net/cgi-bin/news.pl?l=en&y=2004&m=03&d=01&a=12

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040229-105340-2864r.htm

http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0227.html

http://nyyrc.blogspot.com/

http ://www.daneshjoo.org/article/publish/article_3130.shtml

Want more proof? Read the very exposing February 27, 2004 article, on page
8, of the NY Sun by Thomas Lipscomb, founder of Time Books and publisher of
Admiral Elmo Zumwalt's best-selling book. "ON WATCH ". Also read what the
man who pinned the Silver Star on John Kerry had to say about him. The
article is entitled "Setting Straight Kerry's War Record"
Please cut and paste this to a new e-mail and send it on to your friends
and family BEFORE the election and let them decide if John Kerry needs their
vote.



YellowFever
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posted 08-13-2004 09:51 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
The VFW will be in Cincinnati next week. Both Pres. Bush and Sen. Kerry are supposed to address them. It will be interesting to hear those reports.
Todays paper had a blurb about the 20 men in the same unit as Kerry. They accused him of inflicting the wounds upon himself to get out of V.N. Eleven of the men spoke poorly of him, two are dead, four did not want to comment and two are for Kerry. (Kerry is the 20th)

Of those two, one has redacted his statements and is now for President Bush.



Randy Cobb
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posted 08-13-2004 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
I will not make a prediction just in case I am jinx W.

I hope and actually pray (not just a clique) that President Bush is reelected.

I am from NC and I DO NOT support John Edwards. He ran for President (later for Vice) simply because he knew he could not get re-elected as a Senator. Made a campaign promise that he would vote to impeach Clinton and did the opposite once in office. We southerners get accused of being slow, but we don't forget getting screwed!

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posted 08-13-2004 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty     
I wish I could draw editorial cartoons.

How about a TV spot that morphs from a photo of Kerry’s “reporting for duty” to Kerry throwing his medals over the fence at the White House? The caption can read Reporting for Duty and then as the photo morphs the word “Duty” can change to “Disgrace”.

Another spot or an editorial cartoon could be Kerry throwing the medals over the fence and inside the fence would be the ghost of a Viet Nam era POW/MIA Vet kneeling on one knee with the metals in his hand and a tear on his face. The kneeling Vet would be surrounded by ghosts of Vets of each of all the other wars with their hands on the shoulder of the kneeling Vet as if giving him comfort. They would all have their backs turned toward Kerry and the caption could read for Kerry “Reporting for Duty” and for the Vets it could read “you already dishonorably discharged your duties” and “we don’t need your kind here”.

For either of these Kerry could be standing on a mound that would have the words travesties, war crimes, lies, rapes, murders, etc …



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posted 08-13-2004 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
I am more afraid of Mrs. Kerry than Mr. Kerry and God help us if Sen. Clinton runs.........


Scotty
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posted 08-13-2004 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty     
quote:
Originally posted by CJ:
I am more afraid of Mrs. Kerry than Mr. Kerry and God help us if Sen. Clinton runs.........

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! to that.

If you listen to Kerry's campaign rhetoric ... out sourcing of jobs to other countries ... mistreating the working class ... raise corporate taxes ... blah, blah, blah ... you might think he is running against his wife instead of Bush.

sam771
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posted 08-13-2004 10:45 PM           
Good and Bad if Kerry win:

The good part is if John Kerry win, he will prevent another Clinton era, Kerry will get nominate to run again after the first term, former first lady have to wait another four years, I thing she will be too old TO run. Democrat do not want Kerry to win that why they told him to picked another John.

If Bush win Republican have to find someone to run against former first lady.

If she win how do we call the former President? FIRST GENT?



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