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Topic: So Martha Stewart is.......
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ETMIDZT Prowler Junkie Posts: 2278 From: Spring Lake, Mi. USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-06-2004 09:51 AM
Guilty eh? Toast! New name in our newspaper........MUD!
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meancat Prowler Junkie Posts: 3635 From: MODDERSVILLE, MICHIGAN Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 03-07-2004 04:44 PM
Not to worry the judge will let her go now. All this is for nothing.
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CTProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 3915 From: Sherman CT USA Registered: NOV 2002
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posted 03-07-2004 05:24 PM
They will give her community service!! she'll have to cook for the poor people in Westport CT where she lives!! Average salary in Westport is $750000 i don't think they have poor people!------------------
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JCProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 1022 From: Southern California Registered: NOV 2001
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posted 03-08-2004 12:22 AM
CT I think your right...
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 04:47 AM
I think she'll do some time.
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CTProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 3915 From: Sherman CT USA Registered: NOV 2002
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posted 03-08-2004 08:57 AM
I heard today 14 to 24 months! The board of her company is meeting today to decide if they should change the name of her Company! It was her name that sold the products! now what! Let me tell you, if i could have saved the millions she did by selling her stocks using that tip and know the most i would do is 14 to 24 months if caught, I would have taken that chance!------------------
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warmncool Prowler Junkie Posts: 797 From: Hot Springs, Ar. Registered: SEP 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 09:17 AM
The Imclone value was only a little over 200k...
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 797 From: Hot Springs, Ar. Registered: SEP 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 09:57 AM
What is funny about all of this is that this woman is worth billions but, supposedly wanted to cheat on $200K worth of stock??? That just doesn't add up. She makes more in interest on her money in 10 minutes then she would have made with this tiny bit of stock.So why are they messing with her? Because she is "high-profile" and sends a message to the vast little guys who probably cheat everyday. All this expense to go after one lady yet our country is overrun with millions of illegal aliens
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DR PROWLER Prowler Junkie Posts: 4079 From: TORONTO,ONTARIO,CANADA Registered: JUL 2002
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posted 03-08-2004 10:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by YellowFever: What is funny about all of this is that this woman is worth billions but, supposedly wanted to cheat on $200K worth of stock???
It's called GREED. The more you have,the more you want!
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Thunder Prowler Junkie Posts: 456 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Registered: FEB 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 10:33 AM
Your right, it is complete GREED. The most addictive drug, worldwide!
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 456 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Registered: FEB 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by DR PROWLER: It's called GREED. The more you have,the more you want!
Greed I can understand but, let's bring this down to what most of us can understand. Let's say you are making $150K a year. Are you really going to waste your time and be greedy over a nickel? Especially when you are making $20 dollars a minute on interest on your money? Now if it was for something like $20K, perhaps but, a nickel?
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Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 11:24 AM
Lock her *** up for a couple of years.
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DR PROWLER Prowler Junkie Posts: 4079 From: TORONTO,ONTARIO,CANADA Registered: JUL 2002
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posted 03-08-2004 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by YellowFever: Let's say you are making $150K a year. Are you really going to waste your time and be greedy over a nickel?
She's making a whole lot more then $150000 a year and the greed was for a lot more than a nickel-just to be in perspective. So the whole point is had she not been as GREEDY as she was she would have been millions and millions ahead at this time!
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 11:47 AM
Of course hindsite is 20-20 and you can speculate on her motives forever, but a lot of REALLY wealthy people make a game out of saving bucks even though it's a small % of their worth. Kind of adds to the empowerment thing and feeling of getting over.....JMO
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 01:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by DR PROWLER: She's making a whole lot more then $150000 a year and the greed was for a lot more than a nickel-just to be in perspective.
you missed my first line where I stated, "let's bring this down to what most of us can understand." Yes, I know she is worth ALOT more then $150K a year. I think she is in the billions. Point being, most folks can't comprehend the amount of interest you make on that amount of money but, since you want to bring it back to that level, she is making ALOT more (in interest) then the $200K she supposedly had insider info on in probably 1-2 hours (every day). That was my point! If she was trying to steal 2 million or 20 million or 200 million, yes, I could see that but, $200K? Doesn't make alot of sense. Yes, she could have possibly done it but, I also see prosecutors get so agressive and want to get anyone they get completely blinded by what is right and wrong (witness all the folks that are now getting off with DNA testing that were convicted years earlier). These guys get goaled on how many cases they win, not loose.
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Wayne Finch Prowler Junkie Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 02:26 PM
Not sure if she is guilty or not. She certainly didn't plan on all this to save a few bucks. I believe the value of the stock was $200,000 - the maximum she saved by selling ahead of information being released was something like $60,000. Even if she is guilty, I highly doubt it was a planned event. Someone told her others were selling, so she sold too. Probably the first instinct she had was to sell, probably never thought of consequences. If she is guilty, she shouldn't have lied about it. So the taxpayer is now out millions of dollars in court fees to try and jail someone NOT for insider trading, but for lying. We aren't going after every liar out there now, are we? I definitely do not defend Martha or lying, but let's put it in perspective. Let's worry about terrorists and murderers, etc. Martha could be going to jail, and OJ's still running around.
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 4011 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 02:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Wayne Finch: Someone told her others were selling, so she sold too.Right you are, her broker told her that the CEO was dumping his stock so she should too. So the taxpayer is now out millions of dollars in court fees to try and jail someone NOT for insider trading, but for lying. We aren't going after every liar out there now, are we? Good point Wayne. No, clinton lied his pants off (pun intended) and perjured himself but, got no jail time.
This message has been edited by YellowFever on 03-08-2004 at 02:53 PM
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warmncool Prowler Junkie Posts: 797 From: Hot Springs, Ar. Registered: SEP 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 05:53 PM
Look at Ted Kennedy..He not only lied, he killed a girl and didn't even get a slap on the wrist...
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MDProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 5250 From: Fallston,MD USA Registered: JUL 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 06:11 PM
Enron, WorldCom, TYCO. They ruined thousands of peoples retirements,and most got away with it. Martha didn't hurt anyone but herself. P.S. I still don't like her. ------------------ Gary K
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 5250 From: Fallston,MD USA Registered: JUL 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by MDProwler: Enron, WorldCom, TYCO. They ruined thousands of peoples retirements,and most got away with it. Martha didn't hurt anyone but herself.
Add to that millions of folks are here ILLEGALLY, we know it, we know where, we know how they get here yet, we do nothing.....and they cost us ALL.
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-08-2004 07:32 PM
More important things to worry about than Martha....she still has more money than the rest of us..........she can spend it when she gets out!
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 From: Sedalia Mo USA Registered: MAY 2003
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posted 03-08-2004 08:21 PM
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