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Gary C
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posted 01-06-2004 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
A cool guy from this site emailed this to me.


In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the real actors of yester-year loved the United States. They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War many of our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country we all love. They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men & women, many as simple "enlisted men". This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70 medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of Honor. So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2003" have been in all of the news media lately I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of 1943 were doing, (60 years ago). Most of these brave men have since passed on.

Real Hollywood Heros

Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on D-Day.

James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S. Army on D-Day.

Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.

David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British Commandos in Normandy.

James Stewart Entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way to the rank of Colonel. During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty. Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II. In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in the late 1950s.


Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended the Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach, Fla. and graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942. He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s. Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age for combat.

Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.

Earnest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.

Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star and awarded the Purple Heart.

Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan

George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.

Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.

Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.

Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.

John Russell: In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at Guadalcanal.

Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia.

Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed) joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.

Audie Murphy, little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy parts? Most Decorated serviceman of WWII and earned: Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2 Bronze Star Medals with "V", 2 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems, American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar, French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm.

So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching in anti-American parades and saying they hate our president? I thought not, neither did I!

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Gary Thanks for the post. Those were the types of men (and women as well) that in many instances America isn't producing anymore. Also it's just not the movie stars. Just look around at alot of the kid's today. How sad. Different times and certainly different values. The WWII guys and gals were indeed "America"s Greatest Generation"!


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Where can I get that bumper sticker?


Gary C
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posted 01-07-2004 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
Butchee is totally responsible for this post he was the cool guy who emailed to me. Really a shame people here aren't viewing or responding to his thread. Maybe we have some of 'those' people here. Maybe we need a little more time.

I tear up every time the National Anthem is played. I was never in the service.

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Gary,

I wasn't in the service either, and as time goes on that's something that I regret. We're fortunate enough to live in the greatest land in the world, and I get upset whenever somebody unjustly bashes it. Yes, it's not perfect, but in my mind it's a long way back to second place.

I've been asked in the past what my favorite song is, and when I say The Star Spangled Banner, you should see the looks on peoples faces.


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posted 01-07-2004 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
Gary--you're just an old softie.


Gary C
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posted 01-07-2004 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
No I have been called (emailed) that I am a JERK and other things, am I still here to stay.

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posted 01-07-2004 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ETMIDZT     
Very Cool Gary! Thanks for this post!
My 20 yr. old is thinking about joining the Coast guard. He asked me .......What do you think Dad?
I said I'll never pressure you or your Brothers to join the Armed services.......But I will tell you , It will be an experience you'll never forget! You'll forget your 1st job........you'll for get your 1st Girl friend....You'll probably forget your 1st car......But believe me Son You'll never Forget or regret Being a Member of the Greatest Country on Earths Armed Forces!! It will make you extremely Proud for the rest of your life! I'm telling you from experience!
I hope he Joins!!
I think Laddie, CJ, Gary, David, & others remember my Son Josh from 1999-2000-2001 events.....




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I proudly served with the 7th Marines 1st Marine Division in Korea. We had our hero's there as well as the folks that are in the service today helping to keep this country free. They should also be our hero's.

The picture of the fellow standing from his wheelchair while others sat watching the colors going by is disgusting. His efforts and the efforts of others some by giving the "supreme" sacrifice allows those @#*&*#@# to be able to sit on that curb. Sadly most of them don't even have a clue of what many did to make it possible for them to do so.


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Father was in WWII in the Philipines. Uncle in the Battle of the Bulge. To this day my uncle goes inside on the 4th of July when kids blow off firecrackers.

Father told me the jungle in the movies is nothing like the jungle in real life. Said you can't see farther than 1 foot. Said war is complete chaos, not us over here and them over there. Said his .45 stopped the enemy in their tracks with one shot. Told me there is nothing worse than war but sometimes there is no choice. He gets pissed off when we don't use our most powerful weapons/bombs to destroy the enemy because of political bs. He cares more about the GI's life than the political bs.

Every so often my father's memory of what happened last week gets a little hazy but he's never forgotten where his honorable discharge papers are at. He can tell you the date the war ended, the date he enlisted and the date he first served. He has his .45 from the war which he told me isn't allowed. He told me "this (ie. .45) SOB was my best friend and where I go it goes" when he was de-listing or whatever the appropriate term is. I have his dagger. I never served but I'm damn proud of my father when I watch him give awards and salute the Flag as Commander (9th time) of his American Legion post. He's a tough SOB and the first person to help someone who needs help.

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My father was a Sargent in the Army who supervised a Crew who fixed tanks in WW2. My uncle was a Head Cook, in the Army also. My fathers uncles and cousins fought in WW1. Frank my fathers cousin buried our men during WW1 trench warfare. He never would talk to me about it. I was brought up watching war movies as a kid. I was fasinated by them, John Wayne and many others were my hero's growing up. I had many Toy guns, plastic soldiers,Tanks, aircraft carriers. My friends and i played war games in the woods behind my house. When vietnam came around my # was 264 but i was one of the lucky ones. The war ended in my senior year of high school. But i can honestly say if i was called i would have gone and done anything they asked me to do for my country. During many big sporting events in my life, when Air force Jets have done fly overs i stand and it makes me proud to be an AMERICAN. My eyes well up because i know the only reason i'm standing there watching a INDY 500 Or Daytona 500 is because of the thousands of men who gave their lives so we could be free. Today people think its bad for kids to have play guns, play army. Well i never shot anyone, acted violent towards another person because of my up-bringing. I learned at an early age proper firearms safety, took gun safety courses and i still have a pistol permit. If you don't like this country leave! We have plenty of people lined up to come in! Kids today just don't know enough about this countrys history. I would think any kid who watched Saving Private Ryan for example, should have a pretty good idea what Wars like. I can't say enough good things about our servicemen.

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I got this from Lee Schaeffer. Pretty good feel good story.
----------- Returning Soldiers Sample Home Turf --------------------
>
> By Patrick Kampert Tribune staff reporter
>
> November 2, 2003
>
> When naval reservist Don Hodory recently returned from the war in Iraq, he
> and other soldiers found a surprise waiting just inside the door of the
> American Airlines jet that was to take them home: a 5-foot-long piece of
sod
> from a Chicago-area nursery.
>
> The grassy strip is the brainstorm of American flight attendant Kate
> Pantorilla, an Ingleside resident, who wanted to give the men and women
who
> served their country a chance to set foot on U.S. soil long before they
> entered U.S. airspace.
>
> "It was the first time I saw grass in seven months," said Hodory, 34, a
> noncommissioned officer who is back in Woodstock trying to rejuvenate his
> stained-glass studio. "I lay down and rubbed my face in it. I stroked it
I
> held it in my hands like it was a newborn baby." Hodory's fatherly
> tenderness is understandable--his wife, Lauri, just gave birth to
> twins--but Pantorilla, 56, said many returning troops have similar
reactions
> to the sod.
>
> "We roll it out and tell them it's U.S. soil," said Pantorilla, a 35-year
> veteran of the airline. "They'll touch it to make sure it's not Astroturf.
> They've taken their shoes off to step on it. Some kiss it. I've had a
couple
> guys do a football roll into it."
>
> The sod ceremony is just as emotional for Pantorilla and her fellow flight
> attendants. "The crew are a mess," she said. "We're all at the age where
we
> could be their mothers. We're just so pleased to see them and give them
> hugs."
>
> Pantorilla has handled about 20 planeloads of U.S. soldiers coming home
from
> undisclosed locations in the Middle East. Before each flight, she picks up
a
> roll of sod from Castle Gardens Nursery and Garden Center in Volo, where
the
> owners have donated the grass for the cause. Her husband, Ernie, 58, also
an
> American flight attendant, devised a carrying case for her that involves
two
> large garbage bags and a handle.
>
> "When I get to the hotel, I roll it out on a piece of plastic and sprinkle
a
> little Evian or tap water on it. I want to make sure it's nice and green
> when I get there," she said.
>
> The sod isn't the only surprise Pantorilla and her cohorts cook up for
their
> heroes in uniform. The back of her skirt features a U.S. flag while a sign
> on the back of her shirt reads, "Saddam, kiss my flag."
>
> "I go to the front of each cabin," she said. "I stand up on the seat and
> say, `This is from the entire crew for you.' And I turn around and take my
> jacket off, and that's when they go crazy."
>
> Some soldiers sign the flag on her derriere. Others sign any number of
> American flags festooned throughout the plane. Still others are recruited
by
> the flight attendants to assist in serving their fellow soldiers with hot
> towels and beverages throughout the flight. Here's how Pantorilla
announces
> her "helpers," decked out in wigs or scarves, over the P.A. system: "We've
> recruited four flight attendants from the defunct Saddam My A-- Airways:
> Brenda from Baghdad, Tammi from Tikrit, Fran from Fajullah and Mimi from
> Mosul. They don't speak English, but they do like having their pictures
> taken."
>
> Some soldiers get wolf calls or dollar bills from their fellow warriors as
> they sashay through the jetliner. "The cameras are going the entire time
> those guys are in the aisle," Pantorilla said.
>
> Hodory was one of the servers on his flight, and he will never forget
> Pantorilla. "She made coming home outstandingly fun, other than the fact
> that she made me dress up in drag and serve food," he laughed.
>
> "But being in the military as long as I have, I didn't question anything.
I
> became Brenda from Baghdad, all the way down to the lipstick."
>
> An American Airlines spokeswoman would not discuss its flights involving
> U.S. troops for security reasons, but Hodory said his experience with
> Pantorilla has sold him on the airline for life.
>
> "It was unbelievable that they had gone to all that trouble for us," he
> said.
>
>
> Copyright (c) 2003, Chicago Tribune


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Very cool...
I'm trying to think of other entertainers who served..

Elvis joined the Army....

Jimi Hendrix served as well, he met his original bass player in the Army. The beginning of "The Experience!"

Dang, I know others, but brain is stuck now...



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Was a member of Marine, VMFA-451 fighter-attack squadron and HAMS attack helo squadron in Vietnam. It seems that most Marines seem to be very proud of there service time whereas many of the other branches join, serve and leave the service without much feeling about there country. I'm currently Adjutant in DAV-#19 and it is very hard to recruit new members, Our color guard average age is 69 with the oldest 87. I've seem so many times the younger generation showing very little patriotism to the flag or even have any feeling for what many of us fought or died for just so they can have many of the freedoms they have today. They feel it is there RIGHT to have these freedoms versus the privilege of these freedom that were earned for them by many men and women through the years. I don't talk about certain years that I served but try to enjoy the good times around those years. My idols would be John Wayne and my Dad who passed away in 2002 and I to still get chocked up when many patriotic song or the flag waves in the wind. God bless America. Sorry for rattling on.


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It was a whole different story when we returned from Vietnam. To avoid verbal abuse and possibly worse we were told we should not travel in uniform within the the continental US.
It was wonderful to see our troops treated better this time.


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I wish Blackcat would tell some of his storys, he has a lot of medals......

William, please share

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I am fairly sure Elvis got drafted and did not enlist. I could be wrong.
Cassius Clay, Mohamed Ali refused to go.


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Yes, thanks Gary. I do have a wall full of ribbons and awards. I guess anyone who spent 26 months and 3 days in Viet Nam would also. I was with the 1st Marines at Danang in parts of 66,67,68,& 69. I really don't like to discuss it much. We flew choppers and gun ships. Many good thoughts, many I hope I forget but never will. As someone said earlier the kids of today really need to understand that what they have, they did not get for free........... Thanks for listening, I think I need a beer. By the way I've been watching this post from the begining I just couldn't find the right words to respond. I feel better now.

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Gary -

Thanks SOOO much for posting.

I haven't responded to your post simply because I couldn't come up with the words that would do these heroes true justice.

It's very hard for me to put into words the heartfelt thanks to those who have served our country.

I never served. I curtainly was no dodger. I was born in '54 and was given a lottery # in 1971, but those born in 1954 were never selected. I entered college in the fall of '72 and the upperclassmen were called if there grades fell below a 2.0.

Thanks again for posting and I'm with you in that I get emotional each time I hear the National Anthem.

Genotex - Great pix!
I was at at football game last year when a young man (approx. 20) about five rows below me didn't remove his hat during the Invocation. When he also didn't remove it at the start of the National Anthem, an older gentleman behind him politely removed his hat for him and showed him how he should place it over his heart. After the anthem the two shook hands and everyone who saw the episode cheered them and purchased them food and refreshments throughout the game. Scores of games, what teams and wins/losses fade away, but I'll never forget that moment.

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Thanks


Ed... as info.. at the "Elvis" site with a timeline of March 24,1958, it says:

Elvis Presley is inducted into the U.S. Army at the Memphis Draft Board and is assigned serial number 53310761.

another site quotes :
In 1958 Elvis got drafted into the army, and did his country proud.

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Gary C
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posted 01-09-2004 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
DON"T THANK ME THANK BUTCHEE, he emailed me the info......


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posted 01-10-2004 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
No thanks to me necessary Gary. The thanks should go to everyone that serves or served our country in it's time of need in anyway to keep our flag flying high and proud.
I'm proud to be an American.


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