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halicat unregistered Posts: 1242 |
posted 11-19-2005 08:39 AM
quote: great reporting Buck !! here's facts that the Dems don't like "A student from the University of Washington has sold his soul on eBay for $400. He's a law student, so he probably doesn't need it, but still, that's not very much. Today, Hillary Clinton said, 'Hey, at least I got some furniture and a Senate seat for mine." —Jay Leno |
DR PROWLER Prowler Junkie Posts: 4079 |
posted 11-19-2005 09:26 AM
Legal system would be great if it'd only work 100 % of the time... How many times does the prosecution withhold crucial evidence,not giving the jury the real picture.... How many times has expensive legal counsel got criminals off....look at O.J.Simpson(he's still looking for the real killers,I think) And how many times has a truly innocent person rot in prison for years...only to have additional evidence found setting him free... I believe justice should be served every time for everyone who's guilty.....but how can we be absolutely sure when a lot of lawyers are crookerd themselves? Our most notorious case up here in Canada has a wife(who orchestrated the murders along with her psycho husband)walking free after only 12 years....because of a plea bargain and because not all evidence was presented at the trial.... |
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 11-19-2005 09:59 AM
Pat - while much of what you say is correct [except about that great American, Hannity],,,,,,its some of your liberal friends who think like this guy - (College Professor to Student: "Real Freedom Will Come When Soldiers In Iraq Turn Their Guns On Their Superiors..." ) http://www.yaf.org/ Nixon got us to withdraw from Vietnam because: 1. he promised, during the elections, that our troops would come back home [I did not entirely agree with the way it was done, but he was the elected president] 2. it was nearly impossible to destroy Vietnam 'without' next going to China to fight and face [one billion people] - impasse 3. remember, that it was Kennedy and Johnson who got us into the Vietnam War 4. for whatever reason,,,58,000 proud young men and women from the U.S. died,,,,millions served, and we owe them our respect, dignity, and honor. This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 11-19-2005 at 10:02 AM |
CatDude Prowler Junkie Posts: 1593 |
posted 11-19-2005 09:32 PM
There are cases where the evidence is so overwhelming and concrete that there is no doubt, like when you have a combination of DNA, eye-witnesses, weapons, cameras, timelines, getting caught red-handed, and confessions all corroborating... In these cases, why don't we call them what they are and classify the guilty as "guilty with no doubt"? Remember the guy a few months back who broke out of a courthouse in Atlanta by stealing a deputy's gun, and then immediately shooting and killing an officer, a judge, and then another citizen while he was on the run? ( http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/03/12/113716.php ) Everybody knew who did the murders.... the guy was in custody, for God's sake, and there were enough witnesses to fill a small church!! In general, I am for reduction of the death penalty, mainly because the appeals (which we pay for) are so costly. Suppose that it works out that in 1% of cases the guilty were determined to have reached the very high criteria of "guilty with no doubt".... I would be for limiting the application of the death penalty to those individuals. Heck, I don't care if they get rid of the death penalty... just get rid of all the unnecessary appeals. Some of those weirdos, like the serial killers, thrive on the attention. I don't want them to thrive. |
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 11-19-2005 10:42 PM
quote: An article on state budgets Monday, August 15, 2005
The biggest budget news was rebounding revenues. Lawmakers in the vast majority of states saw revenue collections creep out of the red as they drafted their 2006 budgets, after facing revenue shortfalls collectively totaling $235 billion since 2001. "As their 2005 calendars moved along, there tended to be better and better news for states in terms of their revenue collections," said Arturo Perez, a fiscal analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures. States in 2005 increased cigarette and other sin taxes, expanded gaming and sought other means to bring in all possible revenue. One state - Ohio - pioneered a new corporate tax, and another - Alaska - became the first to shift to a 401K-style pension plan for state employees. A handful of states pursued caps on state spending, while still others - most notably Nevada, sought to provide relief from soaring property taxes. As of Aug. 12, Michigan's was the only state legislature that still hadn't passed a budget for its 2006 fiscal year, which starts Oct. 1. The revenue news has been especially positive in states like Arkansas and Montana. Each ended the fiscal year with a record surplus of about $300 million. Arizona ended fiscal 2005 with the highest percentage increase in tax collections in 30 years. Virginia, which last year enacted a comprehensive tax-hike package, closed with a $544 million surplus. State revenue in 2005 exceeded predictions in 42 states – a turnabout from 2002, when revenue failed to meet projections in 42 states. In only three states - Indiana, Missouri and Washington - revenue collections failed to meet targets for fiscal 2005, a July survey by the National Governors Association and National Association of State Budget Officers showed. The recovery trend continued in many states during the first month of fiscal 2006. The Arkansas Department of Finance, for example, reported July revenues $10.5 million - or 3 percent - higher than projected. Only five states - Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio and Rhode Island - had to plug holes in their 2005 budgets after the start of the fiscal year, down from 37 in 2003, according to NASBO. |
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 11-19-2005 11:06 PM
And another Latest Fiscal Survey Add to MyNCSL August 17, 2005 State Budget Crisis Ebbs, According to NCSL’s Latest Fiscal Survey
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BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 11-19-2005 11:20 PM
quote: I agree 100%. Iraq oil should be being used to fund the liberation. |
heynow14 Prowler Junkie Posts: 3529 |
posted 11-20-2005 12:59 AM
AC- Unfortunately I don't much care for labels but I am proud to say I'm an American. Bush Hater? He is still my president even though I did'nt vote for him. I guess I just expect more from our elected officials in both parties. Yes my veiws are directly related to our economic situation here in Mich. I work in the automotive industry. Its not a good situation when Delphi wants to cut wages by 63%. Its tough to watch the CEO's make millions while cutting jobs. I still remember the days when you could raise a family on 1 income and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. Its good to know that Arizona has a surplus. Would'nt it be nice if the Federal Govt. had one too. |
ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 11-20-2005 04:02 AM
You can't blame the automotive industry's decline on Dubya. That has been in progress for 30 years or more. I agree it is unreal that CEOs are taking home millions when the company is losing money. Why are they getting paid for doing a lousy job. It is a global economy and everything is being outsourced. If it can be made cheaper outside the country, that is where the business goes. It is impossible to buy American since so many components of everything come from all over the globe. I saw some type of news program last night where the illegal immigrants are rebuilding New Orleans and people are upset. The difference is that they are willing to work, not like the lazy thiefs that got flooded out. (I do not mean ALL New Orleans citizens). There are no jobs but then they gripe when someone else goes to work. It is tough to have it both ways. |
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