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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-17-2005 01:05 PM Coffeeman's relatives in La. [the looters],,,,,returned a tv set back to the store from where they stole it. Complained that it didn't work and wanted to exchange it. Store owner [now guarding his business] had to explain that the power is OFF,,,therefore the stolen tv will NOT work!! Just shows what inbreeding has created in Missouri also
Dale Beaman Prowler Junkie Posts: 2699 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: AUG 2002	posted 09-17-2005 02:03 PM Pronto with a Hemi - WOW!
Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie Posts: 2418 From: Marshall,Mo.65340 Registered: DEC 2002	posted 09-17-2005 02:31 PM quote: Originally posted by ALLEY CAT: Coffeeman's relatives in La. [the looters],,,,,returned a tv set back to the store from where they stole it. Complained that it didn't work and wanted to exchange it. Store owner [now guarding his business] had to explain that the power is OFF,,,therefore the stolen tv will NOT work!! Just shows what inbreeding has created in Missouri also
Ed W. Prowler Junkie Posts: 2622 From: Port Huron, MI USA Registered: JAN 2003	posted 09-17-2005 05:34 PM quote: Originally posted by halicat: it appears i'm dirtying my own thread.... Yup, but then you're one of the most consistant people I know, Jim!
halicat unregistered Posts: 2622 From: Port Huron, MI USA Registered: JAN 2003	posted 09-17-2005 05:53 PM Thank you Ed.... digression is my life....degradation is my game...
SuperKat Prowler Junkie Posts: 2221 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: NOV 2001	posted 09-17-2005 06:46 PM The HHR is one of the poorest designs from an aesthetic proportion standpoint. I do like the retro grill; it reminds me of a 49 Chevy truck I once owned. The windows are much too small and the length height ration is poor. I am surprised that they did not do a better job. I like the PT hands down; what a nicely designed car. JMHO
01Prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 5068 From: Dallas, TX Registered: OCT 2012	posted 09-17-2005 10:52 PM quote: Originally posted by ALLEY CAT: Ron - the HHR reminds me of a large pile of Yak crap,,jmo Everyone has different tastes Larry, Come on now!!! I just left my local watering hole (yeah I know it's early still) and came outside and an HHR was parked next to my SSR. I love the HHR even more now. I Might have to get one. The two look great together and this is why.. Chevrolet released this sketch on its new HHR wagon, Chevy designers took the 1949 Suburban, and the SSR, and came up with this... Codename: HHR (Heritage High Roof). This message has been edited by 01Prowler on 09-17-2005 at 10:55 PM
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-18-2005 12:11 AM Ron - I'm just tugging your chain to get some excitement out of you, lol. Ok,,,it isn't Yak crap. Maybe Armadillo droppings?
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-18-2005 09:37 AM Any wonder that GM has an HHR - sort of a copycat of PT??? In April of 2001 - General Motors Design hired Bryan Nesbitt, the 32 year old designer of the Chrysler PT Cruiser, away from its rival to be the Brand Character Chief Designer for Chevrolet. As a Senior Product Designer for DaimlerChrysler, Bryan Nesbitt was the creative force behind the exterior design, interior body color 'theme', as well as the brand product name of the PT Cruiser. Check out this article...... http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2001/010424gm-nesbitt/ My turbo PT certainly has more speed/peformance than the first PT I had. The first PTs lacked good acceleration, but once it got out of its own way....it zipped right on down the road. The Turbo was a huge improvement. I don't understand why people think it has to have a bigger engine. It's not a race car.. What about gas mileage and gas prices. If you really need more speed in the PT, there is a Stage I kit you can add that boosts the horsepower about 25-30 percent. Also provides more torque. With the Stage I kit, its faster than the stock Prowler.
JCProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 1022 From: Southern California Registered: NOV 2001	posted 09-18-2005 11:30 AM quote: Originally posted by CJ: Any wonder that GM has an HHR - sort of a copycat of PT??? In April of 2001 - General Motors Design hired Bryan Nesbitt, the 32 year old designer of the Chrysler PT Cruiser, away from its rival to be the Brand Character Chief Designer for Chevrolet. As a Senior Product Designer for DaimlerChrysler, Bryan Nesbitt was the creative force behind the exterior design, interior body color 'theme', as well as the brand product name of the PT Cruiser. Check out this article...... http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2001/010424gm-nesbitt/ My turbo PT certainly has more speed/peformance than the first PT I had. The first PTs lacked good acceleration, but once it got out of its own way....it zipped right on down the road. The Turbo was a huge improvement. I don't understand why people think it has to have a bigger engine. It's not a race car.. What about gas mileage and gas prices. If you really need more speed in the PT, there is a Stage I kit you can add that boosts the horsepower about 25-30 percent. Also provides more torque. With the Stage I kit, its faster than the stock Prowler. Amen-CJ, the HHR to me 1st thoughts looks like a soccers moms car! My 05 PT-ragtop turbo blows, its a fun ride and cool looking. In Southern California theres lot of grid lock traffic, now folks tell me why I need a V8 or V6, I want gas saving!!!
01Prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 5068 From: Dallas, TX Registered: OCT 2012	posted 09-18-2005 11:46 AM quote: Originally posted by JCProwler: Amen-CJ, the HHR to me 1st thoughts looks like a soccers moms car! My 05 PT-ragtop turbo blows, its a fun ride and cool looking. In Southern California theres lot of grid lock traffic, now folks tell me why I need a V8 or V6, I want gas saving!!! Let's not forget the HHR gets 450 miles to a tank of gas. And has an optional 172 HP normally aspirated 4 cylinder engine. I know the turbo pt has a little more than that, but we're compairing apples to apples. This message has been edited by 01Prowler on 09-18-2005 at 11:51 AM
cnote6 Prowler Junkie Posts: 10955 From: Dallas, TX Registered: NOV 2000	posted 09-18-2005 12:30 PM HHR is the better bang fot the buck. JMO
JCProwler Prowler Junkie Posts: 1022 From: Southern California Registered: NOV 2001	posted 09-20-2005 10:36 AM The PT is cooler looking, I like ragtops.
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 From: Acworth,GA,USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-20-2005 11:54 AM In my opinion, the HHR looks more like a truck and the PT more like car. As for the performance our PT Turbo will give the Prowler a run for its money. You can also get both a stage 1 and stage 2 kit for the PT. As for quality I have had more than one DC service mahaer tell me based on the amount of cars coming in for repairs the PT is one of the most relaible cars Chrysler is producing.
RED5 Prowler Junkie Posts: 2167 From: USA Registered: JUN 2004	posted 09-20-2005 01:50 PM
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 From: Acworth,GA,USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-20-2005 10:02 PM Stage 1 Kit Hp is 235 and torque is 275 http://store.yahoo.com/wyckoff-chrysler-parts/ptcrst1tuupk.html This message has been edited by BeWare on 09-20-2005 at 10:06 PM

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