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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-03-2005 07:49 AM
Rebuilding the Gulf coast cities,,,,,,how long do you think it will take to clean up the mess and rebuild the cities??? Think of everything, including the infrastructure. I'll say 10 years,,,,,and that is an optimistic guess on my part.
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halicat unregistered Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:14 AM
don't you think if they rebuild in a hole the same thing won't happen again ? Climate change could cause this event to be replayed over and over in those risk areas... I really have my doubts that New Orleans will be rebuilt in the same spot... that would be crazy |
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Dustis unregistered Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:35 AM
Good question A/C and I would wonder, WOULD I wanna live there again ? Theoretically all the houses will have to be leveled in order to rebuilt, I doubt very much that ANYTHING in these houses can/will be salvaged. I'm sure it will be rebuilt and it will take a looooong time to do so ! Unless they build a "Berlin wall" around the city I wouldn't wanna live there again. JMO |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:42 AM
heres a question... if they rebuilt N.O....would the real estate values ever be worth anything substantial considering the risk of another event ?...The potential value of a newly built home may not excede the cost of replacement...  |
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:49 AM
...there should not be one $$$ spent on rebuilding the city until the levee system is addressed and updated properly.....there could be more several more hurricanes this year....estimates are for 41 this season and we are not half way there yet... more thoughts later, headed to Auburn Kruse Auction today |
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Ray unregistered Posts: 11086 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:55 AM
.... and they're not even through the peak of hurricane season yet! I fear that before all is cleaned up, cleared out and damaged assessed, they may get another wallop during September -- hate to think it, but it is quite possible. I know from the wireless infrastructure side, all carriers have nation-wide volunteers heading down to get sites back up ASAP -- providing materials are all available, that should be within the next 30 - 45 days. All the other stuff ... good question, since most of the other utilities are governed by unions, my bet is it will take a LOT longer and at a greater expense than the wireless stuff! |
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RED5 Prowler Junkie Posts: 2167 |
posted 09-03-2005 08:57 AM
The army core of engineers stated yesterday that it will be 3 months before they can get all of the water out of New Orleans. |
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TooHipCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 4173 |
posted 09-03-2005 10:02 AM
quote: This obviously isn't the Berlin wall but this is what the city of Providence, RI constructed to protect their city. It's called the "Fox Point Hurricane Barrier" I realize that New Orleans and its surrounding area would have to construct something on a much larger scale. I dunno...just a thought. They can't let this happen again!!!
Why it was built? During the first half of the twentieth century, Providence, Rhode Island was the second largest city in New England. The population reached its peak of 250,000 residents in 1945. The central business district is located in a shallow natural basin with an elevation of 8 to 12 feet above mean sea level and is bordered by the Providence River. In 1959, the City of Providence contributed 47 percent of metal trades and 91 percent of the jewelry-silverware industry of the Narragansett Bay area. Providence was not only the commercial and industrial center of Rhode Island, but also the wholesale retail and financial center of the State as well. Before 1960, Providence had suffered great losses from tidal flooding. In September of 1938 and during Hurricane Carol in August 1954, downtown Providence had experienced a water depth of over eight feet. The hurricane in 1938 had been a deadly and destructive one, costing $200 million in damages and 250 lives; $120 million for the city of Providence. Amazingly, only 3.1 inches of rain had fallen in the city of Providence. On August 31, 1954, Hurricane Carol lashed its fury on the Providence area. The city of Providence suffered a greater amount of concentrated damage than any community caught in the path of the storm - upwards of $41 million. Flood tides were at 13 feet above normal. To make matters worst, the U.S. National Weather Bureau failed to give an adequate warning and the storm arrived at high tide. Gusts of wind, at a rate of 72 to 100 miles per hour, blew into Providence along with water as high at 8 feet in the downtown area. The Biltmore Hotel, a historic landmark for the City of Providence had damaging waters that reached 5.5 feet high. |
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Dustis unregistered Posts: 4173 |
posted 09-03-2005 11:13 AM
There you go Brian, THANKS for the pictures - that's what's needed down there ! So the "technology" already exists for that, makes you wonder why they didn't BUILD this thing years ago, especially with the city of N.O. being under sea level, that was kinda like playing russian roulette IMO |
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hopeful prowler Prowler Junkie Posts: 32 |
posted 09-03-2005 09:19 PM
I was wondering where they are going to put all the leftover building material when they level everything? I guess they could burn some and maybe bury the rest but that would be a job in itself. |
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chasmccart Prowler Junkie Posts: 611 |
posted 09-03-2005 09:27 PM
Think of all the jobs it would create. They can't ship those jobs overseas. Brian: Great research. Charlie |
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 09-03-2005 09:53 PM
There is a gasoline shortage supposedly already. How much do you think plywood and 2 x 4s will cost in a couple of months? Drywall, etc. Then the cost to ship it there. The historic parts of New Orleans are not replacable, probably. |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-03-2005 10:13 PM
Ed - ALL construction materials, appliances, and fixtures will soar in prices. I waited too long to re-roof my house,,,,now afraid to call for a estimate,,and see the cost doubled. Gatlin said there would be some good buys at E-Bay on guns, tv's, and jewelry soon, lol. |
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TooHipCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 4173 |
posted 09-04-2005 01:43 AM
quote: Charlie,
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KlasKat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1835 |
posted 09-04-2005 10:53 AM
I heard on the news this morning they say the actual historic district is not under water and they think it can be saved. I'm glad for that since it is a great part of history and tourism. I do hope they do NOT let anyone rebuild any residential homes back down close to the water. They could use it for industrial and warehouses and maybe help a great deal with new infrastructure for commerce but never any residential again. |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-04-2005 11:16 AM
If Wal-Mart rebuilds,,,,I hope they have a bigger selection of flat screen tvs |
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 09-04-2005 11:19 AM
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 09-04-2005 01:51 PM
KlasKat, if you are in New Orleans you are close to the water. It is under you a few feet and the ocean is nearby, the Mississippi River is right there and Lake Ponchetrain is on the other side. You can't be in New Orleans and be very far away from all that water. I don't have the answer to the problem. I am sure they will rebuild, figuring this is once in 200 years so what's the chances of another one. The French Quarter built on stilts won't look quite the same. |
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BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 09-04-2005 02:30 PM
What company is going to want to insure anyone in NO. And if they will who will be able to afford the premiums. Banks are not going to be willing to finance the rebuiling without insurance. I heard many evacuees say they would not move back. One guy says he has lived there for 55 years and will not go back. I wonder if this diaster could bankrupt some insurance companies. This message has been edited by BeWare on 09-04-2005 at 02:31 PM |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 09-04-2005 04:04 PM
Don't be concerned Rich,,,,we [the taxpayers] will front the money, the insurance backing, and whatever it takes to rebuild and insure. Its the American way,,,ask NOT what you can do for your country,,,,but rather, what can your country do for YOU? Some get the cookies [and a new flat screen tv] and the rest of us get the crumbs. |
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