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MDProwler
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posted 07-29-2005 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     
Saw an HHR at the local Chevy dealer yesterday and went back today to get a closer look. Thoughts? Sticker $20600




mike82
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posted 07-29-2005 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mike82     
it sure looks like a PT front end.


Dustis
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posted 07-29-2005 05:10 PM           

....if you have NO ideas of your own, you just copy the competitions ideas.........

IMO too little - wayyyyy too late for GM - we've seen the HHR at the Hot Rod Power Tour and it's nothing but a cheap KnockOff of the PT Cruiser !

SuperKat
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posted 07-29-2005 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKat     
I have seen the HHR and it is very similar to the PT; the aesthetics and proportions are much better on the PT in my opinion. The windows are very small and the body lines just do not appeal to me. That is just my opinion; please, I do not want to go to battle with anyone. I did see a version done by west coast customs that turned it into a pretty nice looking car.


Wayne Finch
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posted 07-29-2005 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     
My opinion is that this will get the hook after a short life


Ray
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posted 07-29-2005 05:34 PM           
I bleed Chevy Blue ... but this makes me hurl bloue chunks ... looks like they couldn't decide what "other" model to copy, so they copied a few IN ONE! Yuck ... unless it sports the Z06 powerplant and move 0 - 60 in 3.7 sec ... it has no appeal for me.


Dustis
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posted 07-29-2005 05:48 PM           
Anyone knows WHY GM didn't go through with the beautiful concept of the Camaro which was REALLY cool ??
(I guess they're kicking themselves right now, seeing how the Mustangs sell like HotCakes)


Chromer
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posted 07-29-2005 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     
quote:
Originally posted by MDProwler:
Saw an HHR at the local Chevy dealer yesterday and went back today to get a closer look. Thoughts? Sticker $20600

It certainly does look like a knock off of the original PT idea that DC brought to the market...

I think it has a chance to do well in the local market here if they put a REAL motor in it. With these Colorado mountains and altitude..no one seems to keep the PT's long because they are gutless...


Silver Cat 01
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posted 07-29-2005 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Cat 01     
Who is running the design department for GM/Chevrolet? Everything new that has come out recently doesn't seem right. The SSR doesn't look "right". The Corvette has something about it that doesn't look "right". The Solstice - a cool car, but doesn't look "right". There isn't a single General Motors vehicle that interests me today. Now this HHR, which doesn't look "right". And who's idea at Chevrolet was it to copy the PT Cruiser after six model years???

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Rich W
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SuperDave
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posted 07-29-2005 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperDave     
It looks like a cross between the PT Cruiser and a Pontiac Aztec. Sadly, it got more of the Aztec than the PT. Not a very attractive mix IMHO...


Bob Miller
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posted 07-29-2005 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Miller     
bland looking - not my cup of tea...


ed monahan
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posted 07-29-2005 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     
The windshiled is way too big for the little grille. I saw one in Indy on the Power Tour. They missed by a mile and this is from a guy who owns two PTs.


tangled up in BLUE
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posted 07-29-2005 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tangled up in BLUE     
I saw them at Detroit....copycat, yes...too late, possibly...I have absolutely no need for one, but If I was in the market for a vehicle of that type, I would consider one.....I didn't think they were too bad for what they are...


MDProwler
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posted 07-29-2005 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     
I think it may appeal to the PT crowd looking for something slightly larger but in the same price range. Let's see if GM makes any money on it.


samthejeepman
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posted 07-29-2005 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for samthejeepman     
looks like a cross between the pt and an element
gm shot their load with this brainiac idea !!!!!


Fat Pat
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posted 07-29-2005 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fat Pat     
"PT is gutless"??? I don't think so!! You can get the 225 HP Neon SRT engine in one now. You couldn't run fast enuff to sell me an HHR!! What a piece of crapola! Worse than the Pontiac Aztec and I didn't think you could get any worse than that. As far as the "Corvette not looking right" I have to disagree and I am certainly NOT a Chevalay fan....but the Corvette has got to be one of the best values on the road today (and I KNOW its the best looking) Name another car that goes 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and gets 28mpg on the highway for under 50 grand...you can't name one because no other one exists.


ALLEY CAT
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posted 07-29-2005 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Pat - it pains me to agree with you [ ],,,,,but you are right about the Turbo PT and the Corvette


scooter1
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posted 07-30-2005 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scooter1     
In my opinion it's just another one of those "design by Committee" GM specials that looks like six different designers did six different parts of the car and unfortunately they all had different instructions......yuck. A really sad copy of the PT Cruiser.


prowlrman
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posted 07-30-2005 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prowlrman     
Hard to copy an "original" design....no one could ever do it with the Beetle, no one will do it with the PT Cruiser. Both are original in concept and design, and because of the unique shapes, they create their own market and become classis designs that cannot be duplicated... same goes for the Prowler...hard to beat an original.


halicat
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posted 07-30-2005 07:05 AM           
they should be ashamed.....


halicat
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posted 07-30-2005 08:14 AM           
send GM this picture.... they will love it ! call it the FFP..

This message has been edited by halicat on 07-30-2005 at 08:14 AM

DR PROWLER
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posted 07-30-2005 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     
PT is without a doubt a more stylish vehicle...
This one takes the retro styling from the old Suburbans....definitely not my cup of tea!


dbudner
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posted 07-30-2005 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dbudner     
Saw one yesterday. What was Chevrolet thinking? I'm not the biggest PT fan around, but geez, the HHR makes it look pretty good! Maybe this wouldn't look half bad with a woody kit but I still wouldn't be in line to drive or buy one.


RED5
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posted 07-30-2005 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RED5     
Rick I guess this is the truck/van you were telling me about?.


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