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Topic: Racing Trivia.......
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 10:38 PM
considered to be the most tragic day in racing ever....when / where.....not a TV Land question
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Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003
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posted 06-19-2005 11:02 PM
The day racer Donahue died (can't remember his first name). Believe it was int eh 60's and it was a road course.This message has been edited by Bob Miller on 06-19-2005 at 11:02 PM
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 11:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bob Miller: The day racer Donahue died (can't remember his first name). Believe it was int eh 60's and it was a road course.
Mark Donahue ???.... not the answer I was looking for....
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wuzzzer Prowler Junkie Posts: 466 From: St. Cloud MN Registered: JUN 2002
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posted 06-19-2005 11:23 PM
Jimmy Bryan, killed in Langhorne Pennsylvania the same day that two Belgian GP drivers were killed. 6-19-60.This message has been edited by wuzzzer on 06-19-2005 at 11:24 PM
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 11:31 PM
The day down at Laddie's track when my PT could not break the 14 second mark. Tami Faye will confirm this was a tragedy. lol
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 11:34 PM
1955: Le Mans disaster claims 77 lives Seventy-seven people have been killed and 77 others injured when two cars collided on the race track and crashed into the spectators' stand at Le Mans in north-west France.
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Thunder Prowler Junkie Posts: 456 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Registered: FEB 2003
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posted 06-19-2005 11:35 PM
I think it was that crash that Mercedes was involved in...where the engine separated from the car and both flew into the grand stands killing about 80 or so people and injuring hundreds. in the 30's or 40's I think....Mercedes stopped racing for many years after that crash. I forget where this happened?????
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 11:38 PM
AC was the first correct answer...........Pierre Levegh was the Mercedes driver and Mike Hawthorne also took some blame....Hawthornes friend and racer Peter Collins was killed a few years later and Hawthorne retired from racing only to be killed in a traffic accident at age 30...most statistical accounts place the casualties at 83...June 11, 1955.....a very interesting racing program on a few months ago with lots of historical footage from LeMans......love the old racing films... This message has been edited by tangled up in BLUE on 06-19-2005 at 11:43 PM
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-19-2005 11:46 PM
Obviously,,,I don't remember much of the 1955 accident,,,,but I mourned the days when Jimmy Clark and Aryton Senna were killed in F-1 races. I consider these two racers, the best the world has ever seen, jmo.This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 06-19-2005 at 11:47 PM
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Thunder Prowler Junkie Posts: 456 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Registered: FEB 2003
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posted 06-19-2005 11:51 PM
I recently saw film footage of the accident....it is pretty horrific.....
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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Posts: 3709 From: Colton, CA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-20-2005 01:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE: Mark Donahue ???....not the answer I was looking for....
I met Mark Donohue in the parking lot of Riverside Raceway in January 1972. Mark's #16 Penske Javelin was on a trailer having broken a rear end and not finishing the race. Being a race fan for most of my life, racing locally and dreaming of someday racing at Riverside Raceway, I went over to the car to take a look. I was just a 17 year old kid with long hair. There was a guy standing by the car but I had no idea who he was. I started looking at the car, we made small talk and I finally realized he was part of the crew. I asked him what broke to keep them from finishing. He told me the watts link had broken, causing their 39th place finish. I asked what a watts link was and he tried to explain it to me. After a couple of minutes and him probably realizing that I was serious about learning, he got on the ground under the car and told me to join him. He pointed out the watts link, showed me where it broke, explained how it worked and how it would need to be modified to prevent a repeat of the failure. We must have spent 10 minutes under that car on our backs and in the dirt. It was my first lesson in suspension from a real NASCAR crewman. When I was ready to leave, I thanked him for his time and asked his name. Mark Donohue he said, my jaw about dropped to the ground. He was the driver of the car. Here was a very well known man, a legend in his time, laying on the ground in the dirt and taking the time to teach a long haired kid about racing. I've never forgotten the time he took for me and I've done my best throughout my racing career to take the same time for each and every kid that asks me a question. Mark Donohue made a tremedous impact on my life. He was a real class act. I never even asked for an autograph. To me he was not a hero but just another racer like many of the others I have known. I only later, learned just how wrong I was. I made it to Riverside. I raced there a few times. I was in the lead of the last Grand American race when the spindle on my car broke. It was my last chance ever to win a race at Riverside. The track closed the next year and with it went my dream of winning a race at my favorite track. A place where legends raced. This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 06-20-2005 at 01:31 AM
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 From: Cincinnati, OH Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-20-2005 03:20 AM
That is a great story, L.L. Thanks for sharing it.
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 06-20-2005 06:51 AM
...that is a VERY good story,
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Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003
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posted 06-20-2005 07:29 AM
Great Story! Mark REALLY WAS a great driver and a great ambassador for the sport. You're lucky to have met him, spent time with him and to have later raced at Riverside.
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TFischer Prowler Junkie Posts: 4913 From: Texas, USA Registered: MAR 2002
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posted 06-20-2005 04:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by ed monahan: The day down at Laddie's track when my PT could not break the 14 second mark. Tami Faye will confirm this was a tragedy. lol
Ed: Your PT couldn't break the 18 second mark!!!!! The track golf cart was faster!! T
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halicat unregistered Posts: 4913 From: Texas, USA Registered: MAR 2002
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posted 06-20-2005 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Thunder: I think it was that crash that Mercedes was involved in...where the engine separated from the car and both flew into the grand stands killing about 80 or so people and injuring hundreds. in the 30's or 40's I think....Mercedes stopped racing for many years after that crash. I forget where this happened?????
I saw a program on TV of this recently... it was horrible
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Ed W. Prowler Junkie Posts: 2622 From: Port Huron, MI USA Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 06-21-2005 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by ed monahan: That is a great story, L.L. Thanks for sharing it.
The three most memorable drives (to me) from the late 60's were A.J. Foyt, Mark Donahue, & the late Jim Hall (of the Chapparell fame). Three down-to-earth, never forgot their roots racers, as Larry so clearly pointed out. Great peice, Larry!
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 06-21-2005 10:34 AM
some say Senna, some say Earnhardt, some say Cal Rayburn. Guess it's what racing organization you prefer. I know Earnhardt's death affected a lot people because of better media coverage then the others and he was loved by many.
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SirReal Prowler Junkie Posts: 3332 From: Burtonsville,Md Good ole U.S.A Registered: MAR 2003
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posted 06-21-2005 09:36 PM
Larry Lord....BRAVO! Great StoryWhile not as horrific as far as numbers killed, Fireball Roberts was always a favorite of mine.
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 06-21-2005 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by SirReal: Fireball Roberts was always a favorite of mine.
and mine....
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 06-21-2005 11:07 PM
Al - In the U.S.,,,Earnhardt's death was a memorable loss of a tough driver to those who worshipped him. World wide, Senna's death brought the entire auto racing community to sorrow. I guess both were considered Gods in their respective organizations.
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Dale Beaman Prowler Junkie Posts: 2699 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 06-22-2005 03:14 PM
WOW - Nice story LL.
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Fat Pat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1242 From: Blue Springs, Missouri, USA Registered: DEC 2004
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posted 06-23-2005 06:35 PM
Cal Rayburn?? WOW...someone here is as old as me!! Mert Lawwill, Gary Nixon, Chuck Palmgren, and of course the great one..KING KENNY ROBERTS!!
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