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Topic: Peter Jennings
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 01:10 AM
They just announced that Peter Jennings is suffering from lung cancer......don't think he's doing very well.
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halicat unregistered Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 05:36 AM
Peter was born in Toronto and hosted a kids show before he went south to make it big....sad news indeed ..
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Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-06-2005 07:02 AM
*This message has been edited by Tytanium-K on 04-08-2005 at 10:03 PM
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 08:15 AM
quote: Yes, I was a smoker until about 20 years ago,'' Jennings said, and I was weak and I smoked over 9/11. But whatever the reason, the news does slow you down a bit.''
Just like alcohol and drugs.......tobacco is a serious addiction with long lasting repercussions even if you do quit. People do quit.......some can't manage to fight the addiction. Why do we allow any of these then? Money. Neither Bob nor I have ever smoked. His parents did, my parents did. Bob's father had a stroke, his mother a heart attack (and heart disease). My father had a massive coronary that killed him at 61. My mother smoked for 66 years. She was 82 when she passed away three years ago. We think she had heart disease, but we aren't sure if that's what killed her. We think it was a blod clot from dehydration after the flu. My oldest son used to smoke until he had children and doesn't anymore. My youngest son has smoked since high school.......He's tried quitting many times.........but hasn't been successful as of yet. I pray every day that he does. If my son should die of lung cancer, should I not have any empathy for him because he knew better.....but was so addicted he couldn't stop? Yes, he was wrong for starting.. he knows it.........but I love him.....and would be devastated no matter how he died.
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Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-06-2005 08:31 AM
*This message has been edited by Tytanium-K on 04-08-2005 at 10:04 PM
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 09:40 AM
FACT - 10% of lung cancer patients are NOT smokers.I worked with a 42 year old guy who died of it,,,,didn't smoke nor anybody in his family,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 10:39 AM
....I have been in involved the tobacco business for nearly 40 years(vending/wholesale and retail).....I have never tried a tobacco product nor has any of my family.....I must admit I don't understand the lure of tobacco products but it is strong......people continually complain about the price of cigarettes, but keep on buying them.... I have tobacco stores scattered over 2 states producing millions in tax revenue for the state and federal governments.....it is a voluntary tax of sorts....I hate dealing with the tobacco companies, don't use their products, nor do I promote them.....but it is what I know best and puts Twinkies on the table......when I was a kid, I was a motor head....my dad told me if I didn't smoke or drink till I was 16, he would see that I had a car (I had to pay for it, but he would sign)....when I got the car, it took all of my money to keep gas in the tank and a girl in the seat....I didn't have the $$$ to date, drive and smoke, so smoking never happened.....still have never even tried one... ...if you smoke...STOP....if you don't smoke....DON'T START !!! This message has been edited by tangled up in BLUE on 04-06-2005 at 11:36 AM
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Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 From: Johnstown, PA, USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 11:28 AM
My father started smoking at age 16. In 1969 at age 59 he had a stroke. The first thing he did when he was able to move again was have a smoke. In 1975, my father died with cigarette in his hand from a heart attack. I have never smoked and never will.
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 11:37 AM
Dave....we have actually had people come into our stores that smoke thru a hole in their throats....I guess at that point in time they feel there is little to lose....
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Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003
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posted 04-06-2005 11:41 AM
I smoked until my 30th birthday. At 29 I had a heart attack brought on by an allergic reaction to something else. It was a wake up call I heeded and I stopped smoking. My father died of lung cancer, but he never smoked. But I had to develop a plan to kick the addiction. I knew that to lick the addiction of two packs a day, I had to use mind over matter. I set July 2 (my birthday) as the date I would quit. For three months prior I continually told myself that July 2 was the date. I established milestones; 7 hours without a smoke; then a second 7 seven hours and then 7 days without a smoke, etc. so I could gauge my progress and to develop short term goals to reach for. Going in I knew I might gain 600 lbs and I might chew my fingernails to the knuckles, and I accepted the fact that I might do lots of crazy things, but the one thing I WOULD NEVER DO IS SMOKE. I've never had a cigarette in 25 years.
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-06-2005 08:02 PM
quote: blah, blah, blah.......
What was I thinking? That I should be able to have my own opinion? Sorry..........
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-07-2005 05:51 PM
No other "legal" product is so villified, banned, disallowed from advertising, or forced to put so many labels on it telling you you will die if you just look at the box.Politicians demonize it and lawyers sue the pants off it constantly. So why don't they just ban it? I mean if it's so horrible (not disputing that fact), why allow it to keep being sold? The dirty little secret is that something like 1/7 of GNP comes from taxes on tobacco. So, if you get the chance, next time you see a politician pounding the podium about the evils of tobacco, just ask him/her to sponsor a bill banning it completely and watch the reaction.........
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Bob Miller Prowler Junkie Posts: 4576 From: Alexandria, Virginian USA Registered: OCT 2003
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posted 04-08-2005 08:02 AM
Yellow Fever I agree. In my mind it really does boil down to economics. I know the federal government used to provide subsidies to tobacco farmers in Virginia and North Carolina. I don't know if the Feds still do that or not. However it's ironic that on the one hand congress mandates all sorts of warnings and restrictions on tobacco and on the other hand provides taxpayer money to support the tobacco growers. Our government is all over the poppies growers in Afghanistan to switch to other cash crops so that the opium supply is reduced. But we have an equally dangerous tobacco crop in the US and we don't do that to my knowledge... If tobacco companies, rather than individuals (via insurance) and states, were required to factor in the cost of medical care and lost time due to smoking-related illness into each pack of smokes, no one could afford to smoke! The real cost of smoking is not factored into cigarettes like it should be. Realistically, for economic reasons, I know we can't outlaw the sale of cigarettes overnight, but it seems to me that we could have a 10 year plan whereby in the year 2015 for example, the US would be declared smoke-free and cigarettes would no longer be sold in the US. This would not be the end of tobacco growers and manufacturers, as they export billions of cigarettes to Latin America, Africa and Asia.
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Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-08-2005 08:06 AM
*This message has been edited by Tytanium-K on 04-08-2005 at 10:04 PM
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YellowFever unregistered Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-08-2005 09:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bob Miller: If tobacco companies, rather than individuals (via insurance) and states, were required to factor in the cost of medical care and lost time due to smoking-related illness into each pack of smokes, no one could afford to smoke! The real cost of smoking is not factored into cigarettes like it should be.
While I can see your point, I can also see where something like that could be factored into just about anything we do. Drinking - accidents, drugs - side effects, cars - accidents, gas - explosions, guns - accidents, homes - just about anything, power tools, ladders, boats, planes, motorcycles, obescity, etc. I think we'd pretty much price ourselves out of existence bacause if we started it with cigarettes, it would end up with anything and everything.
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Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie Posts: 2418 From: Marshall,Mo.65340 Registered: DEC 2002
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posted 04-08-2005 11:07 AM
The "HUMAN?" animal feels that he needs to find anyone else to shift the blame to, for his own actions. Self destructive behavior brings repercussions. Stand on your own hind legs and accept the blame for ones self. Sermon ends now!!! JMO
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Jim C Prowler Junkie Posts: 537 From: Corona, Ca Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-08-2005 01:21 PM
My brother in laws sister smoked heavily, got lung and thought cancer and after the surgery, smoked thru the trachea in her neck, then used a aspirator to remove the smoke, as saliva dripped down her neck She held a devise to her neck to be able to talk. watching this would make a lot of people change there minds I would think, she died a few months after the surgery.Yes it kills...
This message has been edited by Jim C on 04-08-2005 at 01:24 PM
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 From: Sedalia Mo USA Registered: MAY 2003
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posted 04-08-2005 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jim C: [ [/B]
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