When did starving someone to death become humane?

When did food and water become medicine and medical treatment?

Why is the hollywood elite and ACLU silent on this?

Can you imagine the rath we would endure if we did this to someone on death row or worse, a terrorist detainee? Hell, we'd be in trouble up to our eyeballs for even attempting this with a rabid dog in the pound, for that matter.

This isn't about whether one believes in pro-life or pro-abortion, it's about treating the living with dignity. Vegetative state or not, this women is a living breathing creature of God and should be treated ss such.

How far have we come as a society when we chose to publicly starve an innocent during this holiest of weeks?

As far as her spouse having the right to do this, I think he gave up that right when he decided to live with another woman and father two kids with her over the last 12 years.

As a radio pudit said the other day, this is micheal schivo's divorce. He gets the house, she buys the farm.....

posted 03-27-2005 09:47 AM         

This is mind-boggling. This isn't a case where you pull a respirator and a person immediately dies - this is starving to death a handicapped person.

The wanted to perform Easter Services for her. The so called husband refused - the judge ruled for him.

When she does pass, the family wants to keep her body entact and bury her in Florida with the rest of her family. The so called husband has refused, wants her immediately cremated and transfered back to Pennsylvania - the judge ruled for him.

Of the $700K set aside by a jury for funds to specifically take care of her, $400K of that has been used by the so-called husband in attorney fees to kill her off.

Her parents have said she is still in pretty good shape, no shallow breathing, smiled as her dad entered the room and even tried to whisper something to him. Honestly, I have no idea if any of that is true or not but, if even slightly so, she is not in a vegetative state.

Her so called husband is one sadistic SOB. I find peace and comfort in this most troubling time knowing he will one day face his creator for his deeds.

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Originally posted by rsterling78:

You can specify in advance directives that you don't want a feeding tube or IV fluids if you are in a persistent vegetative state.

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Agreed. Not done in this case. Purely speculation on the part of the so-called spouse who has taken refuge with another woman for the last 12 years and had 2 children with her.

Where do you think his priorities are? Out with the old, in with the new!

Also, during the the first 10 years of Terri being cared for, he made no mention that this was her wish........

posted 03-28-2005 09:13 AM         

Time wounds ALL heals !

posted 03-28-2005 09:14 AM         

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Originally posted by dbudner:
Unfortunately, there appears to be two versions of this whole story. Depending on which one you read you can find that the parents come off as the money digging fiends as fast as you can find the husband guilty of several other moral issues. I'm glad that it's not me having to make the difficult choice. My take is that you could take both parties and the psychos that are protesting in a non peaceful or constructive manner and put them all in a pine box. The only real loser and victim is the one the in the bed. She is the victim of greed from both her parent and ex-husband, and greed from the media and the attention hungry protestors.

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Originally posted by dbudner:
Unfortunately, there appears to be two versions of this whole story. Depending on which one you read you can find that the parents come off as the money digging fiends as fast as you can find the husband guilty of several other moral issues.

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I've been following this fairly close and her deeply religious parents don't appear to be money hungry.

Quite the opposite actually. They had agreed to fully take care of their daughter. They were refused.

They have been visiting and caring for their daughter. The spouse, hasn't. Why?

The spouse has been on every Tv morning show and media outlet he can find (and one can assume being paid for). The parents have constantly been by her side and fighting for her life in every court that will listen.

The lawyer representing micheal schivo is well known in right-to-die cases. The $400K used to pay his fees is from money set aside specifically for her caring. How ironic, money to save her is actually killing her and savagely.

But, assuming you are correct and they are indeed money hungry,

1) what harm is there in keeping her alive?
2) how does this hurt her spouse?
3) why deny her Easter service?
4) why cremate her when her parents want to bury her?
5) with the above 4 items, what is in that for the parents if they are just money hungry?

Law school 101, discredit your opponent so you don't look so bad. Make them the villian. Take the heat off of you.

No, I believe that SOB husband of hers has a mean streak a mile long and is doing everything he can to get rid of his wife and hurt her parents.

Whatever the real bottomline is, this is just gutwrenching to watch her parents (blood relatives) begging for her life and her ex and the judges being so callous about it.

They also say the husband has the sole decision because this is his wife. If one truly believes him to be her husband, I fail to see then why 10 years of continued adultery on his part and fathering two children with another woman aren't called into play with his decision making.

The one fact I do know for certain, he never made known her wish not to be kept alive like this till 8 years ago.

Apparently, he had no problem with her living like this for 7 years. Pretty darn cruel on his part if those truly were her wishes.

posted 03-28-2005 07:18 PM         

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Originally posted by YellowFever:

Hug your spouse, your kids, your parents tonight and everynight and thank God none of us are in this horrific situation.

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Pretty much sums it up....and live every day like there's not another one to come!

posted 03-28-2005 11:41 PM         

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Originally posted by Wayne Finch:
Bizarre as it sounds, it would be more humane to pull out a gun and shoot her. Now what would those same judges think of that?

This is mind-boggling. This isn't a case where you pull a respirator and a person immediately dies - this is starving to death a handicapped person.

...and public opinion agrees with the decision

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Well, pulling a plug on a respirator isn't exactly humane either. It's not just pull the plug and you're dead right then. It still takes awhile for things to shut down.

Also if you are an organ donor, they don't pull the plug on you at all. You are kept alive on the machine, and your organs are taken out while you are alive. Talk about a way to go. I guess that's considered humane if you are prolonging the life of another? I really shouldn't talk bad about this, but that's not a way I'd want to go. Even though organ donation has benefited my Mother tremendously.