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meandmykitty
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posted 01-05-2005 09:31 PM           
THE PROWLER IS IN THE GARAGE, YOUR SON (19 YRS OLD)HAS FRIENDS OVER IN THE GARAGE, PROWLER IS UNCOVERED AND ONE OF HIS FRIENDS LAYS HIS JACKET ON THE HOOD AND TWO OTHER FRIENDS ARE SITTING ON THE BUMPERS,AND YOU AS THE PROWLERS OWNER YOU COME OUT TO THE GARAGE AND SEE THIS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO!!!!!. WHOEVER HAS A GOOD PUNISHMENT I'LL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION, THANKS FOR YOUR VOTE.


Ray
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posted 01-05-2005 09:40 PM           
Um, and your boy siad WHAT to these so called friends? Did you say "nothing"? Hmmmm ... seems you need to rethink how you have raised him ... either he doesn't respect YOUR property or things are too easy for him and thus takes them for granted ... now, that is your boy ... his friends on the other hand OBVIOUSLY have no respect for other people's property and things of value and have shown complete disrespect to you, your family and your son through their actions. Sorry ... guess you touche a nerve with me ... Anyway ... a punishment ... easy ... you give him a car to drive? Take it away for a month. Planned on letting him crusie in the Kat this summer? Axe those plans as well. While I would be upset at these so called "friends", I would really be disappointed in my boy if I were in your shoes ... he needs to know that and understand WHY. He'll be a better adult for it later on. JMO And if ya want to vent on this in person, come on by for a beer when the roads are clear -- we can hang in my garage and put our coats where the belong and our behinds on chairs!


Orange
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posted 01-05-2005 09:41 PM           
Grounding for life and waxing the prowler every week for the next 10 years.


tangled up in BLUE
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posted 01-05-2005 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tangled up in BLUE     
....be glad you have a son....be glad he has friends...

...calmly explain to him the importance of the Kat to you, and to be more careful in the future...have him to wax the hood for you and forget it....not worth ruining a good father son relationship over...someday, you will be glad he was there and was proud enough of your car to show it to his friends.....don't make him hate you or the Kat over this small infraction........

....many years ago, my son spent much of his highschool graduation money having one of my Vettes repaired from an accident backing out of the garage....I didn't want to accept the funds, but he insisted(it was secretly refunded to his account later on).....and I am proud to say I didn't lose my temper....I have a great son and we get along very well.....today, he knows where the keys are to all of my toys and knows he is welcome to drive them anytime....

SirReal
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posted 01-05-2005 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SirReal     
TUIB that is without a doubt the very best reply I have ever read here. You and your son are blessed! Jeff


idive
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posted 01-06-2005 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for idive     
I agree with TUIB. One of my Uncle's cars is a 55 Chevy he's raced since 56. He's very proud of that car, and it is the only car of his collection that he keeps at his house. He's always been very particular with it, AND who even knows where it is kept. My last visit there, his son and I were talking (in the garage) and I wanted to get some pics of it, but being a 1 car garage, there wasn't much room for a good shot. He decided we could just push it outside for some pics. I told him he better ask his dad about doing that. Well, he went inside for a few minutes and when he returned, he told me he got permission. We opened the garage door and started pushing it back and out came his dad. He was NOT happy at all, and knowing his son should know better, I felt that he thought I was responsible for what was happening (I kinda felt I was too.)
Maybe your son told his friends it would be ok to uncover the car and show it to them, or ok to sit on the bumpers. (No excuse for the jacket on the hood.) I wouldn't hold it against his friends or be too hard on your son. Let him AND his friends know your feelings on the matter, have your son wax/buff out scratches, whatever needs to be done to the hood, and I'm sure he, too, will have learned something from this experience.


halicat
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posted 01-06-2005 06:15 AM           
ya gotta freak out !! jump up and down ... yell... cry... lots of cussin ....( no hitting )....but most important, tell everyone you can ( only when the boy is present ) about how you found your car violated... how KIDS actually put their a$$ on the bumpers... and the coat on the paint !! make it sound horrible...then when you finish the story.... stare at him and wait for your friend to say something like " oh my God ! "....or " you never killed him ?"....

if you do this ... it won't be just you against him... you will have support... make it fun, get some buddys together and plan some great comments.... it will eventually become a fun thing for you , just another good thing about owning a prowler.... but the best part is....... he'll never do it again!

i have two sons , 19 and 17....

enjoy..

jim



Randy Cobb
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posted 01-06-2005 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Great reply tangled!

It's easy to give someone else advice on what to do. I jump all over my kids sometimes, but often I remember what happened to a friend's family. His son was a good kid and when he was 14 he and son's buddies were at a mall and the son got caught shoplifting. My friend and his wife went ballistic on their son (like we would have done). Took away all his stuff, grounded him for months, etc. Two days later they found their son in his room dead from suicide with a note saying he couldn't go on living knowing he had disappointed and embarrassed this family so much.

He needs to respect others property, but in the end his love and respect is FAR more important than a car. Even if it is a Prowler.

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ALLEY CAT
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posted 01-06-2005 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
I'll be honest,,,I would have done lots of yelling and cussing while explaining how to respect the property of others. I taught my daughter and step-son those values by the time they were in second grade, and I'm sure it has always stayed with them. Good thing I did that early,,,my step-son grew up to tower over me and might whup my butt by his later teenage years. I've never posted a picture of him,,,,got to find one and post.


dbudner
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posted 01-06-2005 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dbudner     
I would have said something about the coat on the hood for sure. Something on the line of "guys, are you freakin' insane?"


Randy Cobb
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posted 01-06-2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Another story with lighter content.

It was June of 1959. I was 5 years old and was helping, really watching, my Dad go throught his every Saturday morning ritual (he still does this at age 74) of washing the cars, trucks and selected farm equipment. He had a black '53 Chevy that he kept immaculate. He was washing the '53 when Mom called him in for a phone call. While he went in, being the good son, I decided I would help Dad out. He had rinsed the tire brush out and laid it beside the garage next to a wire brush he had been using earlier. Oh yeah, I picked up the wrong brush and went to town with what I thought was washing the side of that beautiful black Chevy. Dad came out and understandably so, went off big time. Up to that time and ever since my Dad never laid a hand on me (Mom was ablely in charge of corporate punishment in our house). But this time he beat me like a rented mule! Worse than that whooping USC put on OU Tuesday night! He sold my pony and bike to help pay for the new paint job. Talk about a lesson on washing and treatment of property.

Over the holidays this story was told for the umpteenth time and we all laughed and then my Dad said he is still pissed off about that incident of 45 years ago!

By the way, I have a couple of wire brushes that stay locked up in my tool box.

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Bob Goetz
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posted 01-06-2005 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Goetz     
Tangled has the right idea, just make sure they all know how un happy you are with what they did.

Then have them all come over clean your garage, clean the Kat and then take them seats off the car so they have no place to sit!

Side note here that may help in the future, if your son is in to cars like mine is take him to a few cruise nights and car shows have him help you clean up the car and let him experience the pride of people taking interest in the car and when that good looking girl from school comes by let him offer to let her sit in it or better yet take her for a ride around the block. You will never have to ask him twice again to help you out with the car and he will never let anyone do what happened again.

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DR PROWLER
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posted 01-06-2005 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     
Tangled.....my thoughts exactly!
Sometimes kids don't have enough common sense and the right words usually do the trick...at least with my kids it does.


Marty Usher
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posted 01-06-2005 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Good reply Larry. As most of you know I am not exactly anal about my Prowler as it is a daily driver for me. My son was a senior in high school when I bought it, but it is his younger sister that "into" cars and the Prowler. We have shared many experiences with the car including her entering it is a couple of weekend long car shows while I was working out of town. She detailed it herself before both events. The point is the Prowler was used to improve our relationship. I got on her when she slipped and admitted she and her boyfriend could never get the 0-60 MPH time below 5.9 seconds (she always drove, niot the boyfriend) and she paid a penalty by not being allowed tro use the car for homecoming.

I would suggest you talk to your son, and let him know how upset you are and why. Use it as a learning experience for him.

YellowFever
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posted 01-06-2005 02:48 PM           
Guys, it's a car!

Unless bumpers are painted with some super soft paint, they are fine. I've sat on mine, I've even put a tennis shoe on one. Heck, I've even set a box or two on them. They are black plastic, not some super soft gold.

With the coats, unless they had some huge metal buttons scratching the paint, probably did as much damage as you washing the car with a sponge.

Even if they did scrape this "precious" vehicle. It can be repainted or replaced, your son can't.

Don't drive him away or berate him over something as trivial as this.

Bob Miller
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posted 01-06-2005 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Miller     
Whatever you do, make sure your son knows that he is much more important to you than your Prowler.

We all make mistakes...the secret is to cut down on repeating them.

Let him know you are not happy with the lack of respect he and his friends displayed and get over it.

halicat
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posted 01-06-2005 04:35 PM           
you guys make me feel so dirty ....

oh well ... works for me !

ed monahan
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posted 01-06-2005 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     
I am biting my tongue!


Ray
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posted 01-06-2005 07:13 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
I am biting my tongue!

Oh come on Ed ... I have been too after reading many of these ... so if you "share", maybe I might again as well =)



CJ
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posted 01-06-2005 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
I also have two sons........who are now 34 and 32. Bob and I have been "into" cars since our teens and we both learned to take care of them and respect them. We taught our sons the same thing. We showed them how to care for them and why. When they became driving age, we were able to lease them vehicles through AMC/Chrysler. They made the lease payments and were expected to maintain the vehicles.

My older son was always "into" hot rods with his Dad. The younger one respected the cars he had, but was not "into" cars........they were transportation. Well, back in February of this past year, before his 6-month deployment to the Middle East, he bought a new Hemi truck........OMG..what a change......he is now a speed freak like his Dad and is doing all kinds of mods to his truck. lol! Now he's looking for a 70's Charger or Challenger.......

Now he understands even more about the "car" thing!

If you don't teach your children the things you want them to know and respect........they aren't going to understand or respect.

Obviously, your son's friends have either not been taught this or just don't care, but if it was my son, I would have expected him to correct the situation when it happened. He should have explained to his friends how you feel about the car and why they should not have done what they did. Remind him and his friends that if you disrespected their belongings, they would not like that either.

halicat
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posted 01-06-2005 07:19 PM           
ed , you are showing great restraint...

anyone ever have to go out in the yard to cut your own spanking stick ??
i was trying to figure out where Dad got that idea..

" get one off the maple tree.... and if its to small, i'll cut it myself"

God bless him for making me to afraid to be bad....(I'm serious )

tangled up in BLUE
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posted 01-06-2005 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tangled up in BLUE     
....I was raised with a strap, a yardstick and a boot up my a$$....I still got into trouble and was arrested 20 some times before I was 18(many were traffic offenses)...nothing like being cuffed at gunpoint by a pack of cranky cops....

... so, I tried reasoning and teaching with my kids, with an occasional light spanking...my tone of voice was their warning when they were young, and it seems to have worked, both turned out great(neither has been arrested yet anyway)...there is a difference between being a bad kid or just having a mental lapse from time to time....I still have a lapse of common sense sometimes, but I blame it on the Vipers now....

....a more serious note.....my sons best friend and next door neighbor growing up , a really great kid, also went the suicide route after disappointing his parents....he lost his job due to failing a mandatory drug test and was to ashamed to face his parents...hung himself in their backyard....kids today are under a lot more pressure than my generation...good or bad, who knows....I think about him alot of the time, he was like my second son, virtually lived at our house....had they been less demanding, maybe he would still be here, ???

....there is no right way to raise kids, it must be what fits the family and works best...could be I was just lucky they had a good mother and she is an excellent roll model...

...I still think a calm "man to man" conversation is where I would start....

This message has been edited by tangled up in BLUE on 01-06-2005 at 08:05 PM

ALLEY CAT
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posted 01-06-2005 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
I guess I learned one thing later in life that has stuck with me:

The PERSON is more important than the PROBLEM

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