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Chromer Prowler Junkie Posts: 2723 |
posted 01-02-2005 10:35 AM
Some recent threads have led me to iniitiate this post... What are the features on the '97 and '99 models that are better than the 2000 and newer?? I know there are a few (albiet very few). KEEP Focused: NOT looking for a list of things better on the newer ones. Looking for opinions on features of the older cars (97 & 99) that are better than the newer ones. Entiendes?? ------------------ |
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BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 01-02-2005 10:42 AM
I am not sure it makes them any better, but the ride height on the 97's and 99's is lower. Especially in the rear. |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:08 AM
Things that make the '97 & '99 better? 5. MSRP listed price made them appear affordable to buy,,,, (until the dealers got the greed factor figured into the selling price). 4. Hood prop hood support system. 3. Original soft top material seems to be better quality than the following years, but I can't prove it, other than observation. 2. Center caps on the original aluminum wheels seemed to sustain less breakage. 1. The 1997 model,,,that stirred our interest, and made our dreams come true. ------------------
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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:19 AM
Fewer problems. |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:28 AM
quote: Not so sure about that,,,,,I followed the service patterns of two local '97's. |
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BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:30 AM
Viewing most recent replys. See my post "is this happening to you" Alley, not all 99's have prop rods. This message has been edited by BeWare on 01-02-2005 at 11:32 AM |
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cnote6 Prowler Junkie Posts: 10955 |
posted 01-02-2005 12:35 PM
Hood prop and the color PURPLE!! |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 01-02-2005 01:22 PM
quote: OK,,,I stand corrected. I was making a general reply concerning '97's and '99's. Rich, so you are saying the gas filled hood support shocks became a standard feature during the later part of the '99 model run? Maybe around the time that the chrome wheels were added as a $1500 option? BTW - got our new A-M vendor hood shocks to test out under the hood. Later this year, we should have the results back and see if they will build us stronger hood support shocks. I hope nobody takes this as a situation where they will get or demand free replacements,,,its not, just a test. |
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tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 |
posted 01-02-2005 02:46 PM
I had a very early 99 black...it had the gas hood shocks... I purchased the car in Dec 98.....think it was built mid Nov, best I remember... This message has been edited by tangled up in BLUE on 01-02-2005 at 04:16 PM |
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Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 |
posted 01-02-2005 02:53 PM
My '99 was built at the end of June and I have a hood prop. |
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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 01-02-2005 06:38 PM
quote: I meant that, from my experience, alot of the problems commonly reported aren't typically happening to the 97's. I don't see it happening on mine, nor am I reading about it happening on others. |
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GRROWL Prowler Junkie Posts: 2404 |
posted 01-02-2005 07:30 PM
quote: quote: Are you factoring in the fact that there were TEN TIMES AS MANY 99's produced as 97's? Therefore, statistically, the 97's would need to be 10-times as troublesome in order to "hear" about an equal number. This message has been edited by GRROWL on 01-02-2005 at 07:33 PM |
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BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 |
posted 01-02-2005 08:59 PM
Our was built Aug 98 nad has gas shock hood supports. |
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Punk N Purp Prowler Junkie Posts: 466 |
posted 01-02-2005 09:20 PM
Chromer, I think the ride on the earlier cats is better. I have both, and the ride isn’t as stiff as on the later models, but more comfortable. I get a little queasy when I drive my ’01, but never in my ’99. The wheels don’t distract from the car by being too flashy. They don’t peal the chrome off either. Well, admittedly no chrome may be the reason. The shocks in my ’01 went bad, started leaking the first year. My '99’s are still perfect. My tranny shifts easier on my ’99. I have to push quite hard on my knob when it is in manual on my ’01. I suspect the leather covering the shifting mechanism is what makes it harder to shift positions on the lever. |
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:10 PM
My 99 was purchased early in April 99 and had the hood shocks, not a rod. Built in March, I think. |
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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:40 PM
quote: No, and I don't believe that has anything to do with it. You may not hear about AS MANY due to that factor, but you would certainly hear about it more than you do. How many 97's have you heard of the center caps breaking? Do you think that has to do with the production numbers issue? The fact that they're painted vs chrome? Have you heard of any 97 shocks leaking? I haven't. Have you heard a 97 owner complain that the front end gets squirly or light at high speeds? I hear alot about other years getting hard to handle at 90-100mph, but I felt very comfortable with my 97 at 127mph. I haven't heard about any 97's getting holes in the top (outside of negligence). I can't recall hearing about any tranny sensors going out on a 97. I've never had a problem filling up my car with gas, nor have I had any problems with the fuel gauge. I've heard of a 97 with the gauge problem... (key word is "a"). I don't see the overheating problem many others experience with underhood temps on their years. I would have to go back over the many posts of past problems to pinpoint more of these fewer issues that arent popping to mind at the moment, but I have noticed that it seems that many of the problems others have, don't seem to be an issue with the 97. The fact that there were fewer 97's made would make for fewer problems being brought to the forefront, but they would still be being brought up. I'm not seeing that. Are you? Am I missing those posts? |
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ed monahan Prowler Junkie Posts: 33595 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:49 PM
Another factor might be that the 97s are garage queens! Not you Mickey, but I would bet a lot of them. I need to check the registry to see who owns a 97 on POA. |
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WildCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 6862 |
posted 01-02-2005 11:55 PM
KONI SHOCKS and we got to drive them for more years than later new car purchasers..........LOL The car was a rolling design change. From the start when they found a problem they stopped and fixed it. Once they had them exceptable then the changes came slower but where in process changes. My car built June 98 had the speaker grill covers behind the driver (the 1st cars had holes poked in the panel), prop rod (but the cowl cut for the gas shocks), carpet on the underside of the deck lid (this was changed later to molded carpet, 1st `97 I seen had none) Bob Longstreth noticed my chrome wheels but ask if I had them chromed, something about the rear suspension that was different on the cars once they started to chrome the wheels and mine does not have it. Yes, there are differences but the only one I hear much about the is truely better is the Koni shocks. No matter what color, options, mods, there are all the coolest cars to come out of Detroit in a LONG time |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 01-03-2005 06:58 AM
quote: Catwoman put over 80,000 miles on her 1997 cat, and Jerry Pignolo put 75,000 on his '97 before buying a '01 cat. |
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GRROWL Prowler Junkie Posts: 2404 |
posted 01-03-2005 07:40 AM
quote: quote: Are you factoring in Catwoman's '97? That car had more problems than any 10-other prowlers I've heard of. -GRROWL This message has been edited by GRROWL on 01-03-2005 at 07:43 AM |
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 |
posted 01-03-2005 08:21 AM
quote: And you wouldn't know, but Jerry Pignolo's '97 had 'twice' the problems that Catwoman's car had. I believe every electrical component on his cat was replaced once |
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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 |
posted 01-03-2005 01:21 PM
Most any high mileage car will end up with some problems. Think about this tho. Since MOST Prowlers are not as high mileage as theirs, MANY problems still seem to exist at even low mileage. This is what I would have a tendency to compare to to get a more acurate comparison. As a fellow 97 owner, I would be interested in hearing more about the 97 problems encountered, and about when they were encountered, and under what conditions. From what I've heard so far, they wouldn't be problems common more specifically to the 97, but problems for a high mileage vehicle. Of course, maintenance also plays a part. (Yea, I know, I've had a few high mileage, low problem vehicles too, but lets not drift off course here.) |
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dooboy Prowler Junkie Posts: 387 |
posted 01-03-2005 01:47 PM
painted front upper & lower control arms & purple. |
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KlasKat Prowler Junkie Posts: 1835 |
posted 01-03-2005 02:23 PM
I think I liked the finish of the upper and lower control arms better. They had a smooth finish with a clear coat over them. Wished they would have all been chromed.  |
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cnote6 Prowler Junkie Posts: 10955 |
posted 01-03-2005 11:56 PM
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