Then, for some magazine coming out in October, he is asked what his favorite gun is. He claims it to be the M-16 which he used to save his life and his commrades.

He went on to say that he does not own one of those BUT, he owns a Chinese communist AK-70 assault rifle.

WTF??? He's for the ban, yet he has one of the rifles he is all for banning and that had been banned????

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posted 09-27-2004 10:47 AM         

The radical Violence Policy Center states: "The public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns vs. semiautomatic assault weapons - anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun - can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." Fully automatic machine guns were, of course, effectively banned in 1934.

The value of my pre-ban AR15 just went down with the non-renewal of the ban. Lets see what happens after the election and if Bush caves to the pressure. YF,I think he must have an AK 47. The flip-flop doesn't surprise me coming from Kerry. I wonder if he's even aware of what he says?

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Originally posted by butchcee:
The whole bill is BS. It's not about banning assault weapons, it's just the start of an attempt to ban all guns. Assault weapons play a part in a small % of crime.

The radical Violence Policy Center states: "The public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns vs. semiautomatic assault weapons - anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun - can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." Fully automatic machine guns were, of course, effectively banned in 1934.

The value of my pre-ban AR15 just went down with the non-renewal of the ban. Lets see what happens after the election and if Bush caves to the pressure. YF,I think he must have an AK 47. The flip-flop doesn't surprise me coming from Kerry. I wonder if he's even aware of what he says?

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I agree completely and yes, it was an AK-47 (not sure what I was thinking of).

Thx

posted 09-27-2004 11:39 AM         

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Originally posted by Dave Mills:
Personally, I see no reason why the general public should need a fully automatic or even a semi automatic weapon for other than collecting.

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Agreed on the full automatic Dave. What about semi automatic shotguns and hand guns?

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Originally posted by Dave Mills:
Personally, I see no reason why the general public should need a fully automatic or even a semi automatic weapon for other than collecting.

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Here is my take on it.

1) Guns don't kill, people do;
2) No gun should be banned (even automtic ones) from decent law abiding folks;
3) Drugs are illegal, yet you can buy them almost anywhere. What makes you think ANY ban on any gun will keep criminals from getting one? If kilos of cocaine can make it across the border, I'm sure guns can too.

posted 09-27-2004 01:12 PM         

The ban is useless, and really only makes illegal certain mods or accesories to your gun.

posted 09-27-2004 01:47 PM         

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He's for the ban, yet he has one of the rifles he is all for banning and that had been banned

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Originally posted by Dave Mills:
I have one son in Federal Law Enforcement and he has often come upon the situation where the Special Agents are outgunned, so I guess my view is a little one-sided.

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Agreed but, if you ban all guns, those thugs will still have them and will still get them like they do with illegal drugs.

Banning something only keeps it out of the hands of honest citizens that abide by the rules.

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Originally posted by RBADKAT:
Consideration for not having all the facts on status of owning a AK-47 needs to be given here.

I don't see here that any one has specifically stated that the weapon is fully functional.
I say this because I along with a few of my Marine buddy's returned home from Viet Nam with weapons that were allowed to be brought back as war trophies. I returned with a Chinese SKS Semi Automatic, others with me brought back Chinese AK-47's. (The bolts were all welded closed and the the Barrel Lead filled.)
Having a AK-47 doesn't make it functional as well as owning or not owning a weapon doesn't dictate ones political position on GUNS.
I say let ones mouth do the talking for the position they take.
Dan G.

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Just curious RBADKAT, my wife and I were talking this evening about Kerry and the military and HER feelings are that all Military personnel (vets and current inlisted/officers) should be FOR him based on his time in Vietnam ... are YOU? Just wondering as I totally disagreed with her ...

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Personally, I see no reason why the general public should need a fully automatic or even a semi automatic weapon for other than collecting

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posted 10-31-2004 01:14 AM         

I feel confident that we all have access to same media and press and or quality sources and are intelligent enough to make our own decision on who to support. No need for me to add add my 2 cents.

posted 10-31-2004 07:29 AM         

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Originally posted by RBADKAT:
... CJ, your right it all about the right to own one.
Our right to bear arms. If we don't like it we ( as in "We the people") need to change it. Until then, we have three views 1)for, 2) against and 3) don't care ( # 3 IS THE ONE THAT SCARE ME)

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posted 10-31-2004 07:14 PM         

The Second Amendment guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms. This amendment helps to protect the rights given to the people in the first amendment.

If today we allow the banning of assault weapons ( joke ban to start with), tomorrow it will be pistols or all semi-auto weapons, next it will be high powered rifles, then all hunting rifles and on and on till all guns are banned for law abiding citizens. Then the first amendment would be next.

History shows us cases of this with Hitler, Castro, Ida Amin (the examples I think are correct if memory serves correctly). I'm sure there others.

More recently with Canada and Australia with their bans studies have shown increases in armed home invasion when the family is home (criminals have nothing to fear).

We need to be extremely careful with the rights we allow the government to take away because after all it's not something I care about or like doing. Eventually they will get to something you care about.

A couple of examples I can come up with.
Pleasure boating, GA flying, SUV's. Wastes to much gas so lets ban them or tax them out of existence.

Private vehicles at all, unnecessary, you should be using public transportation. (I've heard this one from someone the is currently getting a lot of press coverage right now, who is flying around the country in his own personal jet and driving around in his family's SUV's.

I'll get off my soap box now. Just something to think about.