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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 08:42 AM Oprah gives away all those new cars on her anniversary show. I understand she makes 60M per year, and think well, she can afford to do that. Then on the news,,,I hear that the Pontiac division "donated" all those cars to give away. This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 09-15-2004 at 09:30 AM
DR PROWLER Prowler Junkie Posts: 4079 From: TORONTO,ONTARIO,CANADA Registered: JUL 2002	posted 09-15-2004 08:59 AM I thought the same thing,that she was giving it away....Oh,well!
Randy Cobb Prowler Junkie Posts: 4070 From: Greensboro, NC Registered: JUL 2002	posted 09-15-2004 09:23 AM Yeah, the radio report I heard said Pontiac donated them. I bet the people who got them really don't care who donated them! ------------------
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 4070 From: Greensboro, NC Registered: JUL 2002	posted 09-15-2004 09:26 AM quote: Originally posted by ALLEY CAT: Opah gives away all those new cars on her anniversary show. I understand she makes 60M per year, and think well, she can afford to do that. Then on the news,,,I hear that the Pontiac division "donated" all those cars to give away. Actually, she makes ALOT more then that. She makes about $50M per year just off the Dr. Phil show (a spinoff from him being on her show for 3+ years). Her take of Harpo (her company) is roughly 1 billion.....
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 09:29 AM quote: Originally posted by Randy Cobb: I bet the people who got them really don't care who donated them! Right Randy, but the point is that it was painted as if Oprah gave them away,,,,,which with her net worth I'm sure wouldn't have made a dent. Another fraud.
butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000	posted 09-15-2004 09:30 AM what DP said.
tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000	posted 09-15-2004 09:42 AM AC.....I agree, BUT... ...I think the REAL question here is.... .....Do you REALLY watch Oprah ?
Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004	posted 09-15-2004 10:35 AM quote: Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE: .....Do you REALLY watch Oprah ? Tangled, You can think whatever you want of 'me' and I'm not chicken to say...I WATCH OPRAH! ------------------ Tytanium-K, Man of Metal -- '99 RED, Mostly Stock!
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004	posted 09-15-2004 10:41 AM quote: Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE: .....Do you REALLY watch Oprah ? Doesn't have to. This has been touted all over the news medias for the last few days.
Orange unregistered Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004	posted 09-15-2004 10:56 AM quote: Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE: AC.....I agree, BUT... ...I think the REAL question here is.... .....Do you REALLY watch Oprah ? Or, more importantly, who cares?
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 11:05 AM Yes, heard the same thing. At first, I thought she may have given them away as she does that a lot on her show. Cheap advertising for Pontiac...........
tangled up in BLUE Prowler Junkie Posts: 11086 From: New Castle, Ind Registered: DEC 2000	posted 09-15-2004 11:27 AM ...have to admit, I didn't know Oprah was still on TV at all....it must be on when I take my afternoon nap ....CJ nailed it....it is a cheap promo for Pontiac compared to just buying air time.....plus it builds goodwill for their product....
pumpkin Prowler Junkie Posts: 7907 From: Las Cruces, NM, USA Registered: DEC 2001	posted 09-15-2004 03:25 PM Oh well, what ever. I sure would of liked to be in the audience for that show? ------------------ Current mods: Mopar dual exhaust & front mudflaps; MacMotorsports Air Intake; Real Rod Air Patrol; Graphics by Balistek Designs; ($8) Chrome grille; Chrome tire valve-stem covers; Painted rear bumper lettering; Prowler Pro Gears; Synthetic Oil; Raybestos Ceramic Brake Pads; TGF Door Panel Inserts & Headrest Covers; SheepskinExpress Sheepskin Seatcovers; Grille Light; Pinstriping by Bo Boring; Painted Valve Cover; Window Tinting; Windshield Visor Banner; Front Bumper Removal / Relocation of Front Turn Signal Lights; Real Rod Transmission Cooler Cover, Sill and Carpet Covers, Aero Front Covers and Roadster Rear Pan, rear bumpers removed; rear mudflaps; painted calipers; Prowler Products by Gary Drilled Rotors, front and rear; Painted tach; Jay's Aluminum Billet Center Caps w/shimmers, Chrome Lugnuts and Chrome Radio Bezel Shimmer; Dash Rings; Windshield Wiper Arm Removal; Fender Trim; Speaker Replacement; Painted Plenum; Painted Radiator Crossmember; Painted Rear Mudflaps; Air Patrol graphics; Aluminum engine compartment support bars; PlasmaGlow 7-color LED Underbody Kit; Dash Designs Dash Mat; Airbrushed Rear Trim Panel and Painted Headlight Caps. More 'Pumpkin' photos . . . . . More cars and other stuff New pictures in Personal Scrapbook (02/23/03) "I may have to grow older, but I do not have to grow up!" "The Prowler is not a car to go from Point A to Point B. The Prowler is the Point!"
prowlrman Prowler Junkie Posts: 1724 From: Phoenix, AZ USA Registered: FEB 2003	posted 09-15-2004 03:43 PM Now....if Oprah really wants to do something...I hope she is also covering the "gift tax" that each person will have to claim. From what I read in the paper, the people in the audience were somehow "hand picked" because they really needed a new car. But the question is, no matter who donated the cars....WHO will help some of these people cover the cost of the taxes involved? I don't think some of them could afford a few thousand dollars in taxes...that's why they needed a new car already. Wonder if Oprah will cover this for them? But then I guess that would be subject to gift tax also...an endless cycle... Also for what it's worth...the cars were all new Pontiac G6 vehicles...a new car to replace the Grand Am...so yeah...really good marketing on Pontiac's part for some free press out of the deal...... But in the end...I'd take a new car if someone wants to give it to me too!!!!
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 1724 From: Phoenix, AZ USA Registered: FEB 2003	posted 09-15-2004 03:50 PM quote: Originally posted by prowlrman: Now....if Oprah really wants to do something...I hope she is also covering the "gift tax" that each person will have to claim. From what I read in the paper, the people in the audience were somehow "hand picked" because they really needed a new car. But the question is, no matter who donated the cars....WHO will help some of these people cover the cost of the taxes involved? I don't think some of them could afford a few thousand dollars in taxes...that's why they needed a new car already. Wonder if Oprah will cover this for them? But then I guess that would be subject to gift tax also...an endless cycle... Also for what it's worth...the cars were all new Pontiac G6 vehicles...a new car to replace the Grand Am...so yeah...really good marketing on Pontiac's part for some free press out of the deal...... But in the end...I'd take a new car if someone wants to give it to me too!!!! From what I read the other day, taxes, gift taxes, registration and licensing fees where all to be picked up by Pontiac too. These folks got them free and clear.
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 04:39 PM I still wouldn't want a Pontiac!
jan bruggeman unregistered Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 04:56 PM pontiac should be out of business like olds,and buick next. way to many models out there,and they all just keep on making more,instead of improving on the ones they already produce.american job security,and they cant sell the ones they have.question----if we added up all the cars out there,including all the new unsold used unsold and all the registered ones world wide hom many cars are in this world,any guesses. ------------------ This message has been edited by jan bruggeman on 09-15-2004 at 04:57 PM
Orange unregistered Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 05:09 PM quote: Originally posted by prowlrman: But then I guess that would be subject to gift tax also...an endless cycle... From what I remember in tax law class, there was a case where a company paid the income tax for one of its employees. IRS was trying to argue that the employee (or the company, basically anyone) should pay the gift tax on the payment of the income taxes, but it was decided that because of the "endless cycle" problem, the IRS is capped at only collecting to a certain level. (Not sure where exactly it stops but it is either at the post - gift tax level (only pay the gift tax on the first gift) or pre - gift tax level (no gift tax). This is a personal opinion and should not be taken as legal advice in any way whatsoever. If you have any tax questions, you should consult a qualified tax attorney.
jkburns Prowler Junkie Posts: 1370 From: Mankato, Minnesota, USA Registered: MAR 2002	posted 09-15-2004 05:57 PM I agree with CJ. First prize: 1 Pontiac Second prize: 2 Pontiacs! Kevin ------------------ Kevin, Jo Ann, Jordan and Sadie Burns 2002 Inca Gold Borla Exhaust � K & N Air Filter � MTD Suspension Braces � Ceramic Brake Pads � Front and Rear Mud Flaps � Gold Shimmers � Real Rod Trans Cooler Cover � Dek-Pro-Tec � Fuzzy Dice � KISS in the CD Changer
SirReal Prowler Junkie Posts: 3332 From: Burtonsville,Md Good ole U.S.A Registered: MAR 2003	posted 09-15-2004 06:03 PM Ahh nothing like the vile smell of jealousy, greed and envy!
Dustis unregistered Posts: 3332 From: Burtonsville,Md Good ole U.S.A Registered: MAR 2003	posted 09-15-2004 06:24 PM SirReal
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 07:29 PM quote: Ahh nothing like the vile smell of jealousy, greed and envy! You're kidding, right?? If I had been in that audience and received one of the cars, I would not have kept it. I would have paid the taxes (if I had to) and given it to my son and daughter-in-law who need a new car. I have more cars than I can park in my garage now and don't need one......especially a Pontiac!
Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 From: Johnstown, PA, USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 07:36 PM I would have taken the Pontiac.....It would have been a good trade-in on a Magnum!
meancat Prowler Junkie Posts: 3635 From: MODDERSVILLE, MICHIGAN Registered: AUG 2002	posted 09-15-2004 07:36 PM quote: Originally posted by CJ: You're kidding, right?? If I had been in that audience and received one of the cars, I would not have kept it. I would have paid the taxes (if I had to) and given it to my son and daughter-in-law who need a new car. I have more cars than I can park in my garage now and don't need one......especially a Pontiac! Whet give them one of your prowlers.(you have 2)That's 50% more then I own. ------------------
CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 09-15-2004 08:03 PM Yeah, but you have a Pizzeria! Besides, a Prowler isn't too practical when you have two kids and a dog to haul around! They'll have the Prowlers some day.....