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DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-14-2005 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
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posted 11-10-2005 11:55 PM
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NO I'M NOT UPSET AT ALL, I MADE UP THE MONEY WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY FROM THE TOTALED LANCER AND OF COURSE THE SOX TICKETS, I ALSO JUST RECEIVED TODAY A CHECK FROM A CUSTOMER THAT PAID ME A 3RD TIME FOR THE SAME INVOICE ($594.00)CAN YOU SAY $1782.00, YAH AS I ALWAYS SAID WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND, NO JESSE I'M NOT UPSET

I would like to see Rick's reply to those that posted on the comment above. I would think that we would all agree that we hope that those visiting the POA site don't think we condone this. I wish Bucknekkid did not pull his post as it was so well written and to the point.

Rick do you really think it is appropriate to collect monies from someone three times on the same invoice and call it a windfall?

Sorry all but this has not sit will with me since I read it and I truly have not seen any contrition from MEANDMYKITTY. Also why do you use CAPS in all your posts.

Tim

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Marty Usher
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posted 11-14-2005 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Speaking for myself, personally I don't think the website or members should become morality police. Rarely can you get a full picture of a particular situation from just a single statement or even a single post. I'll worry about my own ethics.

Once you start, where will you draw the line? People here post about street racing and many have posted about speeding (some over 125 MPH). Then there is drinking at POA events - should POA members take a position on people drinking around our cars? OMG - Bob Goetz mooned some other POA members from a pontoon boat - are we going to ban him from the site? There are many more examples that could be brought up.

I have my wife, kids, other family members, 2 ex-wives, a boss, coworkers, clients, members of my church, my doctor, the IRS, and a host of others all watching over me and out for me - I don't need POA to do the same.

This is a car site. Things posted here that are not related to Prowlers are secondary. JMO

I do agree that I wish Rick would quit posting in all caps- its hard to read.

This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 11-14-2005 at 10:24 AM

DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-14-2005 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
Marty,

I respect your position and am not looking to be policing our site and never suggested that anyone be banned. However since we all purchase items from each other and integrity and trust are needed to accomplish this without any problems I think it is important that we believe in the character of the person or persons on this site.

I guess part of the issue is that I put a lot of emphasis on giving and getting respect from others and this post sure has caused me to lose any respect I would have given this individual.

All I asked was for him to explain his position.

This too is just my opinion humble or not.

Tim

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pumpkin
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posted 11-14-2005 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     
I agree with you Marty Very well put.


Ray
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posted 11-14-2005 10:52 AM           
Some people find the Spell Check key, others don't (Fixumm), some find the CAP Lock key, other's don't (Meandmykitty) ... Email and web chat is so subjective, people think if is in CAPS, one must be shouting ... Rick likes to shout ... big deal. For us that forget to keep our reading glasses next to the computer, CAPS actually makes it easier to read!

Dizzy ... make a mental note, don't buy anything from Rick and there will be no problem if you are concerned. Aside from that ... move on, in my opinion. He doesn't "owe" you an explanation for his post -- take it as "hot air" as many others tend to expel on here as well ... heck, so many boast about all their cars they have and no one asks outwardly how they came by them ... maybe they are charging quadruple on their invoicing practices?? I really don't care ...

Marty summed it up ... let's just leave it at that ... this seems like a personal attack on Rick by you Dizzy ... is that YOUR style?

Ray ... over and out.

Marty Usher
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posted 11-14-2005 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Tim - you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Having seen more than several of these types of issues posted on the website over the last few years has led to a lot of heated posts that would create the very thing you are trying to avoid - the creation of something you don't want visitors to have to see.

If I felt as strongly as you seem to on this I'd like to suggest you try to communicate off the board by PM or email to resolve the situation. Maybe once he hears your point of view he will edit his post. Maybe he will blow up and tell you it's none of your business. Whatever the case, in my opinion I would like to see an attempt to settle it off the board rather than publically here. That's just the way I feel about it.

Respectfully



DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-14-2005 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
Ray,

Let me address your question to me.

Marty summed it up ... let's just leave it at that ... this seems like a personal attack on Rick by you Dizzy ... is that YOUR style?

Not sure why you think this is a personal attack on Rick as I don't even know him personally. I do know however that he is the one who boasted about receiving payment for the same item three times. I was not the only one by the way to post replies about this comment as I saw two others of which one was deleted. I have made that mental note you spoke of and will not buy anything from him thank you very much.

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meandmykitty
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posted 11-14-2005 12:28 PM           
where did that puddy kat go

This message has been edited by meandmykitty on 11-15-2005 at 07:57 PM

DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-14-2005 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
posted 11-14-2005 01:11 PM
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FIRST I POST IN CAPITALS BECAUSE I WANT TO IT'S MY CHOICE NOT YOUR'S
As you state it is your choice and I really don't care as it was Marty whos said it is hard to read.

SECOND MY POST WAS TO MY FELLOW KAT FRIENDS THAT I SPEND TIME WITH, NOT YOU (dizzy)
If you want to send something that is intended for only a select few I suggest you not post it in a forum available for all to see. If you post for all to see you surely can't say it is only for a select few.

third what's said in the suburbs of chicago stays in the suburbs of chicago
If this is the case you blew it when you posted it on the forum for all not just those in the suburbs of Chicago to see.


FOURTH DON'T READ INTO EVERTHING YOU READ HERE, IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS
I did not read into anything and actually I asked for clarification as others did but you chose not to respond to anyone.

fifth don't worry you don't have to buy anything from me because i don't sell things here i give them to my friends or it goes in the garbage
Thanks for letting me know this but it seems to me I saw you hocking baseball tickets so I guess that is not entirely true either.

SIXTH WHAT I SAID WAS DIRECTED TO MY 4TH SON REDS 5 (jesse)AND WAS NOONE ELSES BUSINESS INCLUDING YOURS OH DID I SAY THAT ALREADY.
Again you say it was nobody elses business but you post in an open forum thus making it everyones business.

THE SEVENTH AND FINAL ANSWER IS PLEASE MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY SEND ME A P.M. (ARE YA DIZZY NOW)
Thanks for asking me please to mind my own business of which I do quite nicely thank you. I think you are acting out this way because you feel guilty as you should if and I say if you did what you implied you did in your post.

Now you can reply in the forum or PM me if you so desire.

Tim,

i wasn't going to reply to this post from dizzy, but i had some free time so i ,

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PS Ray do you still think I am on a personal vendeta. Based on this post sounds like it is the other way around.

meandmykitty
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posted 11-14-2005 02:39 PM           
he's over dare aroun da corna

This message has been edited by meandmykitty on 11-15-2005 at 07:58 PM

Ray
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posted 11-14-2005 03:54 PM           
Originally posted by: DizzysHotToy:
"PS Ray do you still think I am on a personal vendeta. Based on this post sounds like it is the other way around."

Sorry bud, you attacked Meandmykitty by saying he "owed you" an explanation for how he conducts his personal (non-Prowler, I might add) business, which really, despite the fact that he made an "assertion", is really none of your business ... and so he responded.

Like they say, if you don't like something ... move along. Sometimes its hard, granted, and then we get interesting threads like this one. Prowl on All.


DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-14-2005 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
Ray,

No I am sorry as you are misquoting me as I never said anyone "owed" me anything and I did not attack anyone I questioned how anyone could think it is OK to receive payment for one invoice 3 times and rejoice about it. Then in the same post to say that what goes around comes around.

As for his post not being any of my business he made it everyone's business when he posted it. It is on the net and not directed at anyone individual so it is open for discussion.

Tim

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Fat Pat
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posted 11-14-2005 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fat Pat     
Darn it...I ALWAYS missout on the good stuff!!


MDProwler
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posted 11-14-2005 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE !


meandmykitty
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posted 11-14-2005 10:18 PM           
that puddy kats outside

This message has been edited by meandmykitty on 11-15-2005 at 08:00 PM

DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-15-2005 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
An email I received about this from an anonymous POA member.

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that I agree with you a 100% on this issue. Amazing that someone would post on the Prowler site that he’s a thief and then brag about it. I guess what’s surprising is that all these guys came to his defense, saying it was nobodies business! Certainly has convinced me to never deal with this guy. (I hope I never meet him as I’m sure that I’d probably tell him he’s a dumb *** /thief). Anyway, you were absolutely correct for calling this guy on it. Too bad there are people on this site that think this is OK.

By the way, been thru Perris many times on my way to visit family in Hemet.

Marty Usher
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posted 11-15-2005 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Tim

I would send you a Private Message to respond to your latest post but now that you are posting other's email messages that they obviously did not want posted (as it should be in my opinion) I have doubts whether a Private Messege would stay private so even though I told myself I would not post on this anymore, here I am.

This entire thread is exactly why I believe issues like this should be handled off the board if at all possible. My posts here have not been about coming to someone's defense or being judgemental either way. If you are worrying about what others will think abour POA buy reading the post you questioned, how do you think they will view all the crap on this thread.

OK - I'm done posting on this - period - and will get back to having fun.



DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-15-2005 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
Marty,

I did not posted an email and did not post whom that email came from and I thought it was pertinent to the subject at hand. I actually sent the individual an email back saying I wished he would post his opinions on the board. This is why I did not identify who the email came from. The reason I have kept this post up is because of the comments of the original issue, as well as many other POA members who seem to think it is a personal vendetta which it is not. The attitude this person has shown to me and as far as I am concerned everyone else who is a member or guest on this site is amazing. To justify his comments by saying they are not intended for me is ridiculous.

So if you want to discuss this off the board that is fine but I will respond to any and all comments made to me on this subject.

Tim

Bcoffman Gray Ghost
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posted 11-15-2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bcoffman Gray Ghost     
All this over someone telling of getting paid three times. I never saw ANY mention about keeping the erroneous over-payments. I bet this person probably returned the extra money. But now, why should he have to justify himself to others? JMO


halicat
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posted 11-15-2005 01:20 PM           
no offence intended here , just trying to lighten things up...



Snoman
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posted 11-15-2005 01:33 PM           
Right on halicat,Unless you know Rick dont pass judgement on him.I have crused with him more than once and he is a nice guy.He is from the chicago area so us hillbillies up here in wisconsin know you cant trust him lol. Lighten the f--k up and get on with YOUR life.Snow's a commin in winter time up here be happy mon!!!!!!!!!
Snoman


(Rick you owe me one)LOL


Ray
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posted 11-15-2005 02:29 PM           
Bcoffman nails it too ... Rick does NOT owe anybody an explanation ... and Dizzy is quick to jump to conclusion and obviously has a hard on for Rick for whatever reason ... hey, no one will have to "deal with" Rick on any sales as he doesn't sell anything for the Prowler on here and likely won't be buying anything from you either, Dizzy if he know's it's you selling ... And by the way ... not "mentioning" who posted a PM to you but still posting it in my opinion is a breach of trust ... isn't that what the "P" in PM stands for; "Private"? Move along all ... nothing to see here


meandmykitty
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posted 11-15-2005 04:23 PM           
I HAD MY FRIENDS STOP BY TO READ ALL THIS AND MY FAMILY, MY KIDS WERE CRACKING UP MY DAUGHTER WHO IS 14 WANTED TO KNOW WHAT NUT HOUSE THEY LET YOU OUT OF, THEY SAID WE GOT SOME CRAZY PEOPLE DRIVING PROWLERS (THAT'S FOR SURE), DIZZY EITHER YOUR A CHILD OR AN OLD FART WHO HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, YOU NEED TO START SELLING MORE MAGAZINES, YOU PROBABLY READ PEOPLE MAGAZINE CAUSE ALL THEY HAVE IN THERE IS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVE'S AND THE PEOPLE WHO READ IT LOVE THAT SO I GUESS THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, TRUE I POSTED SOMETHING TO MY SON, BUT YOU TOOK IT AND HAVE BEEN DRAGGING IT ALONG. WHAT STARTED AS A JOKE TO REDS 5, YOU TURNED IT INTO THIS MESS, GET A LIFE,DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MIND YOUR OWN BIZ, GO CRAWL BACK IN THE HOLE YOU CAME FROM. WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE OF YOUR COMMENTS. IF YOU POST SOMETHING WE WILL IGNORE IT. SNOMAN I'LL LET YOU PARK NEXT TO ME AT THE NEXT MEET.THIS IS SO MUCH FUN IT'S LIKE BEING 10 AGAIN


DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-15-2005 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
[B]meandmykitty
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posted 11-15-2005 04:55 PM
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I HAD MY FRIENDS STOP BY TO READ ALL THIS AND MY FAMILY, MY KIDS WERE CRACKING UP MY DAUGHTER WHO IS 14 WANTED TO KNOW WHAT NUT HOUSE THEY LET YOU OUT OF, THEY SAID WE GOT SOME CRAZY PEOPLE DRIVING PROWLERS (THAT'S FOR SURE), DIZZY EITHER YOUR A CHILD OR AN OLD FART WHO HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, YOU NEED TO START SELLING MORE MAGAZINES, YOU PROBABLY READ PEOPLE MAGAZINE CAUSE ALL THEY HAVE IN THERE IS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVE'S AND THE PEOPLE WHO READ IT LOVE THAT. SO I GUESS THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, TRUE I POSTED SOMETHING TO MY SON, BUT YOU TOOK IT AND HAVE BEEN DRAGGING IT ALONG. WHAT STARTED AS A JOKE TO REDS 5, YOU TURNED IT INTO THIS MESS, GET A LIFE,DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MIND YOUR OWN BIZ, GO CRAWL BACK IN THE HOLE YOU CAME FROM. WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE OF YOUR COMMENTS. IF YOU POST SOMETHING WE WILL IGNORE IT. [B}

Now this is really funny, and you think your upseting me with your jabs. Glad to hear all your family enjoyed the posts and the fact that you think it is OK to steal from others.

As for a nut house, I don't remember ever being in one but if I was I guess maybe I would not want to. Never lived in a hole either.

I agree about crazy people and prowlers but we have crazy people everywhere and they drive other vehicles as well.

Oh and by the way if you look closely you will notice if you understand grammer that I am Dizzys HoTToy, not dizzy. I guess age is a matter of opinion but I would not label myself as a kid and not quite an old fart yet either but getting closer.

My business is doing quite well thanks but I always want to sell as many copies of my magazines as possible. Thanks for the thought of me selling more.

Sorry again I don't read People magazine either and actually don't read many magazines at all but love to read books.

Last thing I will say you made your post everyone's business when you posted it in the forum and to laguh and think it is OK to steal would lend me to believe you should be the one crawling undere a rock and hiding. You can ignore whatever you want but you can't hide from who and what you are.

By the way JMHO.

Tim




DizzysHotToy
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posted 11-15-2005 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DizzysHotToy     
Ray,

And by the way it was not a PM it was sent to my email account. Funny now that Rick posted the exact same thing in his post and then felt compelled to send me the same in a PM.

Got to love it. I am the bad guy for all of this but hey that is OK I can live with that.

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