posted 10-13-2005 09:15 AM         

I was just thinking the same thing.

I did not reply to the post at all and I dont know if I had all the info but I thought it was going in a decent direction.

I have to agree, I don't understand the closing of the thread either, after all it was MEMBERS voicing their opinions on a subject in a subtle, constructive way !

posted 10-13-2005 11:43 AM         

And that is that theProwlerstore.com Will have come and probably been long gone!!!!.
And that the POA and the PROWLER STORE will still be here LONG AFTER they've come an GOOOOOONE.
SO WHY THE (RHYMES WITH DUCK) SHOULD WE BOTHER TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
I personally think the A-ARM covers look chintzy for any price and the trans cooler slash roll pan screams of a air-conditioning or heating duct on the back.

Toys

posted 10-13-2005 06:09 PM         

I will not buy any Prowler items from someone who has piggybacked on this site without contributing. Period. I also will not buy what appears to be copies of already available items from POA vendors.

This is the same guy who is selling $15 door trim kits for $90. And he states he is not making any profit due to development costs?

Larry, You sure those plumbing supplies weren't for another type of tobaccie pipe you were selling?

posted 10-13-2005 06:32 PM         

When i stated this i said I PERSONALLY!!! think they look chintzy as are my Honest feeling about the rear Pan.
I never called them CRAP someone else did.
And yes to each his own. If someone likes them. then I would urge you to buy them, They are Just not my cup of Tea.

And i still think JMO now that the POA will be around much longer than the theprowlerstore.com. so to me it should not even be an issue

Next, derogatory names for a vendor's merchandise that you have no personal experience with is, to say the least immature, childish and down right unfair. Consider your own businesses and products, wouldn't you be offended if your products were judged and criticized JUST on the merits of the company name and/or web "pictures" alone?

Next, next ... names ... I have been in wireless since it began .. I have sold to at least three distributors that all did the same thing: moved boxes of handsets in the door and out the door -- they too were, well, as TUIB said, creative with their naming ON PURPOSE no less -- why? To create confusion and grow their business. Whether this guy did that or not, boo hoo to you that don't like it -- that's life and that's business.

Next, next, next ... should either of them change their name? NAw -- if Meandmykitty (Rick) isn't confused than nobody should be! (no offense Rick, would have used Fixxum as example but he doesn't post too much any more). However, since the POA Prowler Store has such agreements with DC and can only be shopped at by posting "members", than why NOT call it the POA Store from the get-go? Just MHFO on this one ...

Last ... and this is for the "group hug" bunch that likes everything to be rosy and never controversial ... buy what you like, don't criticize what you don't as you never know whose car you may see it on and then you will have had offended a possible fellow POA'er and "friend", and most of all ... If you can't figure out where you are ordering from, perhaps you shouldn't be spending the money in the first place ...

Prowl On ... can't wait to see Rick's chintzy piece of crap this Sunday ... now lets talk about those air patrols that squeak, or those seat belt covers that slide down and appear useless, or shimmers that lose their shim, or .... get the message?

posted 10-13-2005 07:36 PM         

As Mike K stated in the other post, we had our name registered in 2001. He did that when I was helping the CAAP store offer their merchandise on our website as they did not have their own. At the same time, Phil pursued the licensing issue with DC for two years and it took us almost two years to develop the store. It has been almost a year that the store has been up and running. Chris told me in an email that he has worked for a year to develop his products and then opened his website. I believe that our store has been in existence much longer.

He was told to remove the link to prowleronline.com which he has done, and was told to remove the link to our stat page on the website which he has not done. All of the material on our site is copyrighted and he never asked for permission to use it.

There are a lot of people on this site who have worked hard to build this site, maintain it and grow it. You can hardly blame them for wanting to protect their property.

The owners here are allowed their opinions, but I would ask that they base their statements on fact.......not speculation. He is not being forthright on the facts with the owners on this website.

As far as I'm concerned I see no reason for us to change our name after all this time. From what I am understanding, the most confusing issue is that emails are getting sent to the wrong place. I would ask that any owners who are purchasing from our store to make sure they are using the proper email addresses for our site and those owners who send us questions do the same. I would also ask Chris to honor our request to remove the remaining link to POA (as he stated in his email that he would) and to re-direct any email he might receive in error.

Thank you for allowing me to attempt to clarify the situation.

I am confused on you/Mike making this guy remove directing links TO the POA though ... isn't that a "good" thing? Heck, what if a Prowler owner finds HIS site and not this one first ... OMG, he could become a valuable asset to this community too ... but NOT if there are no "links". Didn't sound like he was trying to pass himself off as the POA, just "directing people TO the POA" ... whatever ... just an observation.

Bottom line, Mike ... do what you want, you "own" this site and we all appreciate it's existence ... but without all of us, and many who contribute both time and/or money to make it what it is ... there would be no need for it. So please respect the individual "opinion" and don't censor it or block it. You are above that "other" site moderator and shouldn't be lowered to "his" level.

posted 10-13-2005 08:14 PM         

Secondly, it was discussed by those involved in the store as to what we should do about the links. I've stated this several times before, but I'll be happy to do it again. According to the guidelines of the agreement that DC granted to us for the use of their trademarks/logos......we are NOT allowed to advertise/sell/or link to any other site with regard to selling our merchandise. We are not allowed to create a separate website and call it a Prowler store to sell to the general public. Since the prowleronline.com website encompasses the store, we cannot allow the link. We did not make the rules, but we are obligated to follow them. We have tried to set up the store and vendor opportunites in a fair and equitable way.

The Prowler Store for prowleronline.com was conceived and developed for the Prowler owners. Not me, Phil, Mike or Judy. We all thought that it was a good opportunity to provide trademarked/logoed merchandise and apparel for the owners since DC was no longer interested in offering the same. At the beginning, Phil asked for volunteers to help. It became a lot of work and in the end there is only Phil and I left. We haven't made the rules for this effort, DC did. We are obligated to follow them to the "T" or we risk losing this opportunity. If the owners don't care about having this store and what it can offer, then perhaps we should close it. Being granted this opportunity was a big deal and I, for one, would hate to lose it.....there's no where else to go for what we are attempting to provide to the owners.