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Topic: Brown Recluse--Part 2
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Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-22-2005 08:12 AM
WARNING: PROCEED ONLY IF GORE DOESN'T BOTHER YOU!!! Day 6, Day 9, Day 10 PS: Nobody I know--I get these photos courtesy of being my organization's Safety Rep!
This message has been edited by Tytanium-K on 04-22-2005 at 08:29 AM
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 04-22-2005 08:26 AM
WOW--looks like that little sucker packs a wallop.Lots of spiders around my way. I hope none of that spieces. Who's hand TK? Anyone you know?
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ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-22-2005 08:26 AM
TyK - If you need that thumb taken off completely,,,,I can do a clean removal within seconds,,no pain involved. I retired my knives four years ago,,,,,but they are sterilized and on standby.We can then take it to Wendy's for a chili additive
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Dead End Don Prowler Junkie Posts: 631 From: Palos Verdes, California USA Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 04-22-2005 11:18 AM
These spiders are very common and not very distinctive, either. Anybody with a spider bite that gets red, inflamed, etc., should see a doctor promptly.A very dear friend of mine was bitten on the leg at his home in Pasadena while he was doing some remodeling. He ignored it for a while, but as it got worse and worse, he finally went to the doctor (maybe one week post-bite) when he woke up delirious with a 105 degree fever and blood poisoning. Bottom line: He lost over 75% of the flesh and muscle (right down to the bone) on his leg below the knee, spend nearly two months in the hospital in an oxygen tent or hyparbaric chamber to prevent tissue death, and had several surgeries before it was finally contained. Since then, he has had 7 reconstructive surgeries to graft skin and muscle, etc., but will never be "normal". This is not an elderly person, already ill, etc. - top physical shape, early 40's. Point is, if you're hurtin', don't let your ego get in the way of seeing a doctor....he was too "macho" to complain about a little insect bite!!
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dbudner Prowler Junkie Posts: 1391 From: Dallas, Ga. USA Registered: SEP 2002
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posted 04-22-2005 01:00 PM
When these bite you, the venom kills the tissue surrounding the bite. The only hope is fast treatment and poor circulation in the area since you will loose tissue. My sister got bit on the foot from one in her shoe. She lost a chunk of her heel from it.This message has been edited by dbudner on 04-22-2005 at 01:00 PM
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-22-2005 07:17 PM
Thanks for posting this......now Bob's not laughing at me anymore!! I have an extreme phobia about spiders...don't care what kind, what size. When we lived in Colorado, we had a lot of Black Widows in and around the house. Freaked me out!To make matters worse, I have severe allergic reactions to most insect bites......mosquitos, spiders, wasps, bees, etc. I avoid them at ALL costs......not always successful. It's hard to imagine having a bite like that develop into what's shown in those pictures!
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Tytanium-K Prowler Junkie Posts: 3017 From: Sweet Home Northern Bama, USA Registered: JUL 2004
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posted 04-22-2005 07:46 PM
Nothing to simply ignore--that's for certain! Amazing...the things that CAN kill ya'~not necessarily accidents, assasins, cancer, heart attacks, old age, etc.
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Black Tie 161 Prowler Junkie Posts: 3563 From: MD, USA Registered: JUL 2002
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posted 04-22-2005 11:38 PM
OK WHo's Going to clean the vomit off my keyboard?
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idive Prowler Junkie Posts: 8483 From: Texas USA Registered: APR 2003
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posted 04-24-2005 03:00 AM
This is me after a brown recluse bite. Posted are 3 pics. First one is shortly after effects are starting to be seen. Second one is when I decided to call a Dr. The poison eventually made the whole one side of my face, neck, and ear swell as it worked its way into my lymph node. I was afraid it was going to work its way into my eye. The last pic is after the meds took hold and healing started. You can see how it spread killing off the surrounding skin. It took 6 weeks for that plug to fall out. It left a nice little scar that you can see in any pics taken afterwards. I was lucky to have gotten a grip on things before it all got too far out of hand.
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Rpowell593 unregistered Posts: 8483 From: Texas USA Registered: APR 2003
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posted 04-24-2005 07:11 AM
Wow, I just had a conversation yesterday with my brother-in-law concerning insurance and an example of different insurance and HMO's. The story was that a lady got bit by one of these suckers on her leg, and her insurance had her in oxygen chamber for it 22 of 24 hours. Then the insurance for company switched and they said - No - only 6 of 24 is needed. She ended up having to get the leg amputated. I never knew these spiders with this Bad !!! That sounds worse than a Black Widow.
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Gary C Prowler Junkie Posts: 12017 From: San Diego Area Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-24-2005 10:17 AM
WOW, hope you heal well, please keep us informed, no breakfast for me
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Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie Posts: 2418 From: Marshall,Mo.65340 Registered: DEC 2002
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posted 04-24-2005 10:22 AM
We bought our house 5 years ago. It is about 40 years old. After we moved in we started noticing a few spiders. Didn't think too much about it. As time went on, we kept seeing more spiders. Noticed that they looked kinda like brown recluses. Called a friend that is an exterminator. He came and spayed the house. I followed him around as he sprayed in dark corners and under furnature. As he sprayed, spiders started running out from under things. As they would come out, he would say: "That one is a brown recluse." Dozens finally emurged. Then he set off fogging bombs and we left the house. He did tell me that any residual insecticides would not work on spiders. A spider is not like insects. They do not groom themselves. Thus they do not ingest any of the poisons they walk thru. Insects will groom themselves, so that sprays can kill for weeks and months after being applied. The only way that spraying kills spiders is that the spray has to actually hit the spider as it is being applied. We now fog our house every 6 months and set out sticky traps. You can buy the sticky traps at Wal-Mart. They are small plastic trays with some kind of sticky stuff in the bottom. They are sold as mouse traps. We place them in dark spots around the house. Under beds and in the back of the closets. Make sure to set them as close to the baseboards as possible. Spiders travel next to the walls as they move about. After a month or two, you won't believe the number of spiders stuck to the traps. Just leave the traps there and they will just keep on capturing spiders.
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-24-2005 10:38 AM
Geeze, Mickey........you were darn lucky you caught it as quickly as you did! The mere thought of that spider being on my face would do me in.......let alone the bite! bcoffman...........I would have moved out of the house after the initial find of the spiders.......
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TFischer Prowler Junkie Posts: 4913 From: Texas, USA Registered: MAR 2002
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posted 04-24-2005 01:09 PM
Mickey - man - so glad you got to the doctor in time. That is really scary. Ghost - thanks for the information. I will definitely get some of those traps!!! T
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Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie Posts: 2418 From: Marshall,Mo.65340 Registered: DEC 2002
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posted 04-24-2005 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by TFischer: Mickey - man - so glad you got to the doctor in time. That is really scary. Ghost - thanks for the information. I will definitely get some of those traps!!! T
After I posted this, I went around and checked the traps. You can't believe the number of brown recluses in them. I'll run out to Wally World and pick up some new and fresh traps. WOW!
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 04-25-2005 07:25 AM
Oh.......that gives me the willies! I looked up info to see if they are prevalent in Michigan: art I: The brown recluse spider in Michigan
Tom Ellis Entomology Biology and ecology The first specimens of brown recluse spiders, Loxoseceles reclusa, found in Michigan were collected in the summer of 2000. The spiders were collected from buildings in two separate locations in the southern part of the state. In each case, there was an established, reproducing population of brown recluse spiders. No brown recluse spiders were discovered out-of-doors at either of these locations, and no bites were reported from either location. At each location an aggressive management plan was initiated by professionals to eliminate the breeding populations. Brown recluse spiders are native of the lower Midwest, from southern Illinois and Indiana, south to Texas and Alabama. Another, more descriptive, colloquial name is the fiddleback, or violin spider, referring to its most distinguishing physical characteristic. Brown recluse spiders are golden brown, measure between 1/4 and 3/4 inch from the tip of their front legs to the tip of their hind legs. Starting directly behind the head they have a darker brown, almost black marking that resembles a violin with the bridge pointing to the rear of the spider. Their legs are long and skinny and are not hairy. They can be distinguished also by three pairs of equal size eyes; most of our common spiders in Michigan have four pairs of eyes. Sounds like they have it under control here in Michigan...I hope!!
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