posted 04-02-2005 09:47 AM         

WHAT have we [you] learned from the this???

There will be NO right or wrong answers,,,just your personal thoughts.

posted 04-02-2005 11:00 AM         

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Originally posted by Dave and Bev DeSeife:
Put what you want and don't want in writing! Right now! Today! JUST DO IT!

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posted 04-02-2005 10:07 PM         

My fellow conservatives want law and order...unless the law is one they don't agree with. Then they'll rush back and quickly pass a law to deal with one very particular situation. And the President will get out of bed in the middle of the night to sign it into law in his pajamas and then go back to sleep.

My fellow conservatives want the government out of people's lives...unless it means intervening in a family dispute on the side of the family with which they agree.

posted 04-02-2005 10:50 PM         

1. Learned that everyone should have a living will that clearly states: a) Whether they want to be resuscitated or not, kept alive by any measures at all cost or be allowed to die without any extreme measures b) What their burial wishes are c) Name an executor of this living will

2. That no one really has the right or wrong answers to a situation like this. We would be arrested if we were caught starving an animal to death........but it's okay to starve a human being to death?

posted 04-03-2005 10:16 AM         

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Originally posted by Larry Lord:
Living or being alive. There's a huge difference

Prolonging life? Seems to me it was more a matter of prolonging death.

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posted 04-03-2005 10:53 AM         

1) Quality of life is more important than life itself.

posted 04-03-2005 10:59 AM         

The real issue is "should a husband who potentially inflicted the damage, who has moved on, who is living with another woman, who has bourn children with another women, who may have some financial gain from her death still be allowed to make decisions for her.

And I believe that is the real issue that the politicians were debating - and rightly so. They were not debating the right to die issue. The polls indicated that people with periphery knoledge on the case viewed this as a right to die issue and therefore congress should not get involved. And if that was the real issue, I would probably agree. However, perception becomes reality and the politicians saw there was no winning this from a public relations front and dropped it.

What if Terri did have a living will and asked that she be kept alive. Then the question is the same. Who should look after her and care for her. Her husband or her parents or a legal arms-length guardian.

posted 04-03-2005 12:50 PM         

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Originally posted by Dave and Bev DeSeife:
Put what you want and don't want in writing! Right now! Today! JUST DO IT!

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Absolutely right!!! My wife and I just prior to this incident, filled out an "Health Care Directive" which had to be notarized. Our next step...thanks to my wife...is a "Living Revokable trust.
We are trying to have ALL bases covered God forbid something happens to both of us. Our two children will hopefully have nothing to worry about.

As far as the issue with Terri Schiavo, I'm not going down that road. My family just feels that removing her feeding tube is not something the Lord would do.

Have a great Sunday everyone!

posted 04-04-2005 06:55 PM         

My prediction is the plight of the Native American is about to become center stage. Steven Spielberg just finished directing a mini-series that shows the occupation and extermination of the Native American population from the red man's view, not the white man's view. Hopefully this work will open people's eyes just like Roots did for Alex Haley. Already people are pointing to the shooting in Red Lake and talking about the plight of the Native Americans. The latest surge in the popularity of poker, particularly Texas Hold'em, has created a new boon for Indian casinos, and the tribal sharing arrangement in California will get a lot more exposure from other states.

Bottom line is to keep your head out of the sand. We all cannot move to Marlon Brando's tropical island like Michael Jackson.

posted 04-04-2005 08:44 PM         

Living Will

I, _________________________, being of sound mind and body, do not wish to be kept alive indefinitely by artificial means. Under no circumstances should my fate be put in the hands of peckerwood politicians who couldn't pass ninth-grade biology if their lives depended on it. If a reasonable amount of time passes and I fail to sit up and ask for a cold beer, it should be presumed that I won't ever get better. When such a determination is reached, I hereby instruct my spouse, children and attending physicians to pull the plug, reel in the tubes and call it a day. Under no circumstances shall the members of the Legislature enact a special law to keep me on life-support machinery. It is my wish that these boneheads mind their own damn business, and pay attention instead to the health, education and future of the millions of Americans who aren't in a permanent coma.

Under no circumstances shall any politicians butt into this case. I don't care how many fundamentalist votes they're trying to scrounge for their run for the presidency, it is my wish that they play politics with someone else's life and leave me alone to die in peace. I couldn't care less if a hundred religious zealots send e-mails to legislators in which they pretend to care about me. I don't know these people, and I certainly haven't authorized them to preach and crusade on my behalf. They should mind their own damn business.

If any of my family goes against my wishes and turns my case into a political cause, I hereby promise to come back from the grave and make his or her existence a living hell.

JMO

posted 04-04-2005 09:29 PM         

Keep posting man....I don't want to hear a bunch of band wagoners....we need the real deal....or our World ain't going nowhere.

I admit I do not know all the facts in this case...the only opinion I have is that purposely starving people to death is not done in civilized societies.

posted 04-05-2005 12:12 AM         

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I admit I do not know all the facts in this case...the only opinion I have is that purposely starving people to death is not done in civilized societies.

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