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halicat unregistered Posts: 2699 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:08 AM
thought i'd share with all my friends a 100% totally polyethylene floating dock system i have invented. they go together with a door hinge design and this one off system was installed and ready for the astro turf to finish.. This message has been edited by halicat on 01-09-2006 at 05:22 PM |
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:11 AM
Looks interesing. What did you use for adhesive? |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:18 AM
its all welded... there is nothing on this earth that bonds to polyethylene...the key word is "bond"...its a hydrocarbon based material. the interior of the pipe has bulkheads welded in to create chambers.. this material can be left in the water to freeze in for the winter without damage... you can beat it with a sledge hammer without hurting it... tough stuff... |
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TooHipCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 4173 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:38 AM
Great job Jim!  Think you better hurry and put a TM on that bad boy before someone steals your idea.Brian  |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:45 AM
Looks like a great idea. How would you price it? By the square foot? Also could a hoist be attached to it somehow?
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:46 AM
I actually had a business plan together to manufacture these .... financing was set up , then the company i was working for claimed because i thought of the idea at work, they owned the idea and if i made any they would tie it up in court so as i would starve to death.....I quit that company Feb. 18th after 8 years....my business plans are on the shelf, but not forgotten... i have a design for a 25 ft diameter octagon shaped float with a screened gazebo in the center.... some day ..... |
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mysticspot Prowler Junkie Posts: 171 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:50 AM
Halicat, Looks cool, need to see some picts in the water! good luck with it. |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:53 AM
quote: Don't they need to have some type of proof to do that? |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 09:59 AM
these ones are the design i used to sell the most of...8ft wide x 20 ft long, I sold appx 35 of them from May to Aug @ $1400.00/ea they are ready for a wooden deck to be installed. the platic frame will float 3100 lbs before the top of the pipe reaches the water level.  |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:02 AM
sadly, a large company can tie things up for a long time before it even gets to court.....meanwhile i loose everything cause i have no income... i'm not trying to sell these , i just thought i'd tell the story as i am proud of my work.... and yes, bitter about how things went... |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:07 AM
That's really too bad. Sorry this project and your efforts have been in vain. Life can be a witch.
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:15 AM
oh well.... i'm out and not there for them to use anymore. the witches made $950.00 clear profit on each one and never paid me a cent.... i took the other technician with me to my new job , the manager quit and went somewheres else.... there were only 3 of us there... now they don't have anyone to make them or even open for business on Monday.... or anyone to run the special equipment.... they will be lucky if they sell one this summer....... david just hit goliath it the eye....ha...ha |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:23 AM
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Rpowell593 unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:24 AM
You know corporate america (canada) sucks sometimes. I'm sure you've "MODIFIED" your design now so that it's NOT the same as the idea you came up with. Additionally did you sign a non-compete clause? Lastly, if you sell them through someone else, it's hard to sue what you can't find. Good - Luck - looks like a good project. Floating docks do good down here in Florida with the water and people with wave runners, or small boats. |
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Dale Beaman Prowler Junkie Posts: 2699 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:46 AM
Jim, They sure look nice. Bummer about the company you use to work for. If they had been smart they would have worked out a way for it to be a WIN, WIN situation for all involved. Now nobody is getting ahead! Sometimes greed and stupidity ruin a business. Dale |
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Lone Ranger Prowler Junkie Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 10:53 AM
Sometimes?  |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 11:14 AM
hey Rp, I didn't sign a non competitive clause, and can change the design by at lease 20% as i fine tune the manufacturing process....i'm going to see in the next couple weeks if my new company is interested in making these... but will not be as trusting as i was with the other witchs. If the new job doesn't pan out i will develope the business as i had planned... my 5 year plan was to franchise the idea so as they could be made in different areas and satisfy demand... we lost out on sales of 20-30 units last summer because we couldn't make them fast enough.... all sales were word of mouth without any advertizing of any kind... this is a completed decked in unit... |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 2120 |
posted 03-01-2005 11:15 AM
hey Dale, you said it !! I term it as "getting between a big dog and his dinner" |
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 11:59 AM
halicat have a PM |
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Rpowell593 unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 12:34 PM
Hey Jim, Even though you might want to give your new company the opportunity to manufacture and sell these, make sure that they do so through you - you license it to them so you don't get into the same pickle. I don't know about patent law in Canada, but if it's not too expensive - patent your idea. (Product looks nice though) Randy |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 12:43 PM
Thanks Randy, I'm unsure if i will get them involved or not, but have found out a patend can cost up to 10,000.00. I'm just a workin joe and only bring home 25,000/yr... no savings, i've got kids.... and i refuse to sell my Kat...i see how things go for the next couple years maybe i'll take the chance and jump into the fire someday... i am making a zodiac style boat out of the material, about half done... its 20ft long and 8ft wide..will have it finished for this summer.. jim |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 12:48 PM
here is a pict of the boat waiting for me to weld on the floor.... 
This message has been edited by halicat on 03-01-2005 at 12:50 PM |
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Rpowell593 unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 05:07 PM
Looks cool. Listen - patents here cost a ton and I've got a product that I'm selling that I could have patented, but the costs were prohibitive, plus everyone just does it anyhow, and I don't have money for attorney's fees. Plus then they do it in another country. So the idea becomes - BE First, BE Fast, BE Best Product. Then Patent becomes - Who cares. Just document your ideas. One good idea someone told me about is photograph or take your design ideas - then seal them in tamper proof mailing certified to yourself. Then hold onto it. Anyone ever asks in court of law - THEY can open that doc and it's proof. |
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halicat unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 05:16 PM
Your right Randy... be first and always stay 2 steps ahead....i've also heard of the registered mail thingy to yourself, i've gots lots of ideas to work on....sounds like a retirement plan to me !!! lets talk about the " Floating campground idea" or the Floating golf course !!
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Rpowell593 unregistered Posts: 7476 |
posted 03-01-2005 05:26 PM
Well, being a canadian, I figured you'd be working on the INDOORS golf course. I've seen the floating golfcourse thingy. sits in your pool and you chip balls onto the floating green. Very cool - maybe I'll get one this summer. |
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