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Orange
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posted 02-10-2005 08:56 PM           
CJ,

I know there was a Howler Concept that had original prowler rims. Later on, there was a Howler with different rims. Questions:

1. How many Howlers were produced? Was it just one car that they changed the wheels on?
2. Was it a Chrysler or Plymouth? I've seen them reffered to as both.
3. Can you give me more info on the different rims? I know that someone here got american racing to provide similar rims with a grey insert, but the wheels on the howler look like the have thinner, longer spokes and smaller center area. What sizes were those rims on the howler concept and how deep of a lip did they have?

Thanks

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posted 02-10-2005 08:57 PM           
Here is a picture of the rims I'm talking about:




Marty Usher
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posted 02-10-2005 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
Orange - from the pic you posted those wheels look like American Racing Torq-Thrust polished wheels. I'll se if I can find a link or more pics. Bob Goetz at RealRod can order custom sizes from AR.


halicat
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posted 02-10-2005 09:29 PM           
Boyd Coddington has a good selection in sizes that fit the prowler......very nice product...
www.boydcoddington.com

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Marty Usher
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posted 02-10-2005 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     


TORQ-THRUST II - do these look like correct?


Orange
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posted 02-10-2005 09:39 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by Marty Usher:


TORQ-THRUST II - do these look like correct?


Marty, seen these.... The ones on the howler look a little different...

Wil C. Keener
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posted 02-10-2005 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wil C. Keener     
Kinda look like Boyd's SMOOTHIES !


Orange
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posted 02-10-2005 11:43 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by Wil C. Keener:
Kinda look like Boyd's SMOOTHIES !

Kinda, but not exactly.....

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posted 02-11-2005 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RHinson     
They are definitly Boyd's Smoothies, a lot different than the cast American Racing wheels. If I remember correctly the Boyds' smoothies are not expense, mainly because they are cast. Personally, I always use billeted or forged wheels. They are more money, but a lot stronger and lighter. Currently, I use centerlines forgeline series on my tahoe. (http://www.centerlinewheels.com/sub_wheel.php?mw_id=12)


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posted 02-11-2005 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YELLER CAT     
The inspiration for my "Billet" Center Cap design for the OEM Prowler Wheels with exposed Chrome lug nuts, was the Original American Racing Torqu-thrust wheel design.


These "Billet" Center Caps will again be available in 10 days... expecting them from the machine shop on or about the 20th of February.

Good Luck, Jay

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CJ
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posted 02-11-2005 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
Sorry for the slow response. I've been down this week with a bad case of the flu. Yes, there was only one Howler...yes, they changed the wheels. Bob is headed over to MSX today and says if he has time, he'll check out the wheels. According to this article, the rims are the same as Prowlers...17 front and 20 rear.

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/howler/howler_drive4.html

This message has been edited by CJ on 02-11-2005 at 10:11 AM

GenoTex
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posted 02-11-2005 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GenoTex     
I've been down this week with a bad case of the flu.


you too, eh CJ?

And the doctor says I had "influenza" really nasty... high temps, chills, achy..etcetcetc... and they also said there was a VERY large SURPLUS of unused flu vaccine.. which of course will go to waste.

They prevented 'the masses' from getting flu shots last fall supposedly from a shortage.. my first time w/o one in 5 yrs... go figure......



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posted 02-11-2005 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kozican     
CJ, Is the Howler still around? And that V-8 looks like it fit nicely? Too bad its not at the Prowler Museum!


RPL
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posted 02-11-2005 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPL     
Custom built American Racing Wheels Torque Thrust II's. There's any number of similar wheels out there on the market. I remember American making the set.

Yes, the car still exists. No, it will never go anywhere except to the big crusher in the sky. Everyone always gets whacked out and excited whenever this fate is mentioned. Concept vehicles and substantially modified vehicles that manufacturers develop and sometimes show to the public are not legal, certified vehicles. They can not be registered. Sorry, but that's the fate they face in today's regulatory society.

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posted 02-11-2005 02:21 PM           
While I understand the fate with alot of them, why this one? It's just a slightly modified prowler. Different engine, add a bed. Do they really need to crash test 20 of these when any yahoo can build a home built kit car and drive it on the same streets?



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posted 02-11-2005 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
quote:
you too, eh CJ?

Oh yeah.........I can't EVER remember being this sick. Dr. says there's all kinds of strains running around right now and really can't do anything but ride it out. To add insult to injury, I also developed a severe sinus infection. At least they gave me an antibiotic for that.

Kozican.........looks like Bob answered your questions for me!

Marty Usher
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posted 02-11-2005 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
American Racing Torq-Thrust II's, wow, I never would have guessed that!

Orange - as I said earlier - Bob Goetz (Real Rod) has an arrangement with American Racing to make these in Prowler sizes with different backsapce so the rear wheels stick out 3/4 inch further in the wheel wells.

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Ray
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posted 02-11-2005 04:30 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by CJ:
Oh yeah.........I can't EVER remember being this sick. Dr. says there's all kinds of strains running around right now and really can't do anything but ride it out. To add insult to injury, I also developed a severe sinus infection. At least they gave me an antibiotic for that.


CJ ... Had it here too ... started Sunday, Monday was awful, 104.3 fever, aches, chills ... yuch. Tuesday as bad as well. Started getting better Wednesday. I used Comtrex, Tylenol Flu and NyQuil plus vitamin C tabs and lots of rest and fluids ... had to make it to Auto Show last night and Daddy Daghter night tonite! Hope you are better soon too!!



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posted 02-11-2005 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     
quote:
Originally posted by YellowFever:
While I understand the fate with alot of them, why this one? It's just a slightly modified prowler. Different engine, add a bed. Do they really need to crash test 20 of these when any yahoo can build a home built kit car and drive it on the same streets?


The difference between some yahoo building a kit car is that if anything goes wrong, no one is liable except him. If something failed on the Howler then Chrysler would be liable. I think this is all a result of all the law suits being filed and won these days. If a woman can get a big settlement for spilling hot coffee on her self, then if I were a manufacture I would not risk selling a concept car either.



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posted 02-11-2005 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     
quote:
Originally posted by CJ:
Oh yeah.........I can't EVER remember being this sick. Dr. says there's all kinds of strains running around right now and really can't do anything but ride it out. To add insult to injury, I also developed a severe sinus infection. At least they gave me an antibiotic for that.


CJ , Very sorry to hear you are not feeling well. Hope you get well soon.



Orange
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posted 02-11-2005 07:16 PM           
Thanks RPL!!!!! CJ, get better soon.


CJ
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posted 02-11-2005 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
YF...........concept vehicles are just that and in general, are not street legal.


ProwlerGTS
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posted 02-11-2005 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProwlerGTS     
Hey CJ can we get video of this sucker in action possibly? I'm wondering how good it would sound when started up.


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posted 02-11-2005 10:42 PM           
If it is a Prowler modified ... then why couldn't someone modify a prowler to be one? And if it had a V8, then why can't anyone put that engine in their prowler?


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posted 02-12-2005 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for idive     
The V8 in the Howler had 3 fewer horses than the existing V6...


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