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butchcee
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posted 01-07-2005 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
I know others have served during this time and I thought it might be interesting. 67-68 for me.
Vietnam War Statistics

I. Official Campaigns of the War in Vietnam
(Time of service 15 March 1962 - 28 March 1973)

1. Vietnam Advisory Campaign (15 March 1962 - 07 March 1965)
2. Vietnam Defense Campaign (08 March 1965 - 24 December 1965)
3. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Campaign (25 December 1965 - 30 June 1966)
4. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase II (01 July 1966 - 31 May 1967)
5. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase III (01 June 1967 - 29 January 1968)
6. Tet Counteroffensive (30 January 1968 - 01 April 1968)
7. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase IV (02 April 1968 - 30 June 1968)
8. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase V (01 July 1968 - 01 November 1968)
9. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase VI (02 November 1968 - 22 February 1969)
10. Tet 69/Counteroffensive (23 February 1969 - 08 June 1969)
11. Vietnam Summer-Fall 1969 (09 June 1969 - 31 October 1969)
12. Vietnam Winter-Spring 1970 (01 November 1969 - 30 April 1970)
13. Sanctuary Counter-offensive (01 May 1970 - 30 June 1970)
14. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase VII (01 July 1970 - 30 June 1971)
15. Consolidation I (01 July 1971 - 30 November 1971)
16. Consolidation II (01 December 1971 - 29 March 1972)
17. Vietnam Ceasefire Campaign (30 March 1972 - 28 March 1973)

II.STATISTICS

IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY

* Vietnam Veterans: 9.7% of their generation.
* 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam era (August 5, 1964 - May 7, 1975).
* 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during the war (August 5, 1964 - March 28, 1973).
* 3,403,100 (including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the Southeast Asia Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand, and sailors in adjacent South China Sea waters). 2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (January 1, 1965 - March 28, 1973).
* Another 50,000 men served in Vietnam between 1960 and 1964.
* Of the 2,6 million, between 1 - 1.6 million (40 - 60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack.
* 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.
* Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1969).

CASUALTIES

* Hostile deaths: 47,359.
* Non-hostile deaths: 10,797.
* Total: 58,202 (includes men formerly classified as MIA and Mayaguez casualties). Men who have subsequently died of wounds account for the changing total.
* 8 nurses died - 1 was KIA. * Married men killed: 17,539.
* 61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.
* Highest state death rate: West Virginia - 84.1 men per 100,000 males serving in Vietnam (national average 58.9 men for every 100,000 males serving in Vietnam. {Averaged in 1970}).
* Wounded: 303,704 (153,329 hospitalized + 150,375 injured requiring no hospital care).
* Severely disabled: 75,000--23,214 100% disabled; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081 sustained multiple amputations. Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WWII and 70% higher than in Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WWII

* Missing in Action: 2,338.
* POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity).

DRAFTEES AND VOLUNTEERS

* 25% of the total forces in country were draftees 648,500 as opposed to 66% of the ones in WWII.
* Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
* Reservists killed: 5,977.
* National Guard: 6,140 served; 101 died.
* Total draftees (1965-73): 1,728,344.
* Actually served in Vietnam: 38%.
* Marine Corps draft: 42,633.
* Last man drafted: June 30, 1973

RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND

* 88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian, 10.6% (275,000) were black; 1% listed as others.
* 86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics); 12.5% (7,241) were black; 1.2% belonged to other races.
* 170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.
* 86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian; 12.1% (5,711)were black; 1.1% belonged to other races

* 14.6% (1.530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.
* 34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.
* Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.
* Religion of Dead: Protestant--64.4%; Catholic--28.9%; other/none--6.7%.

SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS

* 76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/ working class backgrounds.
* Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle income backgrounds.
* Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional, managerial or technical occupations.
* 79% of the men who served in Vietnam had a high school education or better when they entered the military service. (63% of Korean War vets and only 45% of WWII vets had completed high school upon separation).
* Deaths by region per 100,000 of population: South-31, West-29.9; Midwest-28.4; Northeast-23.5

WINNING & LOSING

* 82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of lack of political will

* Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not of arms.

HONORABLE SERVICE

* 97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
* 91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.
* 66% of Vietnam vets say they would serve again if called upon.
* 87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem


This message has been edited by butchcee on 01-07-2005 at 11:42 AM

Tytanium-K
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posted 01-07-2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tytanium-K     
Most of we who were there ['66/'67 for me] are trying to forget--not remember it!


butchcee
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posted 01-07-2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
Bummer for you TK--I recently got in touch with a bunch of people I served with and made some phone reunions. I found a site for people that served in the TuyHoa area.
Maybe my tour had more pleasant memories then yours. Regardless, for me, it was good to reunite.



BeWare
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posted 01-07-2005 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     
I was there 1966 to 67. Talking about Nam no longer bothers me.

POW's/MIA's You Are Not Forgotten
Welcome Home Brothers

This message has been edited by BeWare on 01-07-2005 at 03:08 PM

Randy Cobb
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posted 01-07-2005 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Thanks to all of you that served!


jmcant1
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posted 01-07-2005 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jmcant1     
I tip my hat...

my uncle was there, he has never really talked about it. When he returned, he gave my and my cousin his duffle full of clothes and boots. All he kept were his medals. I still have one of his dress jackets in my closet. I thought one day he might want it. 1st air calvalry.

the only thing he's talked about is the car he left behind, a '58 Chevy. He GAVE it to my other uncle because he just knew he would never make it back alive.

I couldn't be more proud of him.

SirReal
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posted 01-07-2005 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SirReal     
Butchcee thank you for posting this. Recently revisited the Viet Nam Memorial 'WALL'. It puts a lump in the throat. Don't forget the Viet Nam Vet Homecoming in Branson Missouri this coming summer. Jeff


tangled up in BLUE
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posted 01-08-2005 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tangled up in BLUE     
very interesting info...

...I was stationed at CCK Air Base in Taiwan...combat support group...felt lucky to be there instead of "in country"...I lost touch with most of my buddys thru the years....unusual time in history....

"the Wall" is a stunning tribute to those who served...finding names of people you knew is a strange feeling too.....

This message has been edited by tangled up in BLUE on 01-08-2005 at 09:04 AM

1buddyc
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posted 01-08-2005 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1buddyc     
Never liked the Wall...too many memories. Soc Trang RVN '68-'69. 336th Assault Helicopter Co. "Warriors".


ed monahan
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posted 01-08-2005 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     
I have been to the VN Wall several times. People are always very respectful there, it seems. Almost like being in church, only outdoors.


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