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Orange
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posted 11-18-2004 06:41 PM           
From reading through old posts, I noticed that there was a competing (?) prowler website (PPC)? Will someone please describe issues that went on? Sorry to discuss old issues, but I want to know what happened.

Thanks

butchcee
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posted 11-18-2004 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
put "Nowell Herman" in the search feature and you'll find a lot of reading concerning your question.


halicat
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posted 11-18-2004 06:58 PM           
and from the ugly old caterpillar came the beautiful butterfly...

This message has been edited by halicat on 11-18-2004 at 06:59 PM

Dave Mills
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posted 11-18-2004 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     
Suffice it to say that many of us had "issues" with the old PPC.


Orange
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posted 11-18-2004 07:14 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by butchcee:
put "Nowell Herman" in the search feature and you'll find a lot of reading concerning your question.

Did that, got all my questions answered. It's really nice that Mike K. doesn't charge us for prowleronline, even though I'm sure it costs a lot to upkeep such a great website. I can't believe someone really had a competing website that charged money for someone to become a member.

Ray
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posted 11-18-2004 07:18 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Did that, got all my questions answered. It's really nice that Mike K. doesn't charge us for prowleronline, even though I'm sure it costs a lot to upkeep such a great website. I can't believe someone really had a competing website that charged money for someone to become a member.

Orange ... actually ... it all started with the PPC and there was to be a magazine (Prowl) and many great things ... well ... also many internal issues, so ... POA came to the rescue of all us otherwise wayward Kat owners and all the happier too. Just a little more info for ya!



cjchelen
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posted 11-18-2004 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjchelen     
Although this is a free site, It does take alot to keep it going. Thats why you see the little stars under users names. Everyone can get involved!


ALLEY CAT
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posted 11-18-2004 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Orange - it wasn't so much about Nowell charging a yearly fee to belong,,,,,,it was he couldn't keep his word on the promises he made. He definitely looked out for himself and wanted to make a profit,,,even if it meant lying to us. If you said something negative about the website or him,,,,he would delete the post entirely.

We changed the channel.

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 11-18-2004 at 10:41 PM

Ray
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posted 11-19-2004 11:11 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:

We changed the channel.

Exactly! Well Said A/C!



tangled up in BLUE
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posted 11-20-2004 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tangled up in BLUE     
I ran across my issue of PROWL magazine a few days ago while gong thru some stuff during my ofice move...anyone else still have a copy of it...


butchcee
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posted 11-20-2004 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
I have mine and the license plate frame and Tee shirt.


Dave Mills
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posted 11-20-2004 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     
I still have the magazine, the mouse pad, and the yellow prowler that says Prowler Club of America.


Ray
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posted 11-20-2004 06:05 PM           
Wore out the mouse pad as it had a white background (like that was smart), Issue of PROWL and a couple of the old PPC T-shirts ... LOVE 'EM cause they have a yellow Kat on 'em!


CJ
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posted 11-21-2004 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
Yes, actually, I do.


ALLEY CAT
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posted 11-21-2004 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
I got nothing from Nowell. Always told me my Prowler kit was 'just' mailed out,,,,right. If you lived west of the Mississippi River, he didn't care about you getting the items promised. I guess he mailed my kit twice, but still waiting for the delivery nearly five years later.


BeWare
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posted 11-21-2004 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     
I have the magazine and the mouse pad. I also have the Kiss Prowler. I never got the PPC diecast or anything else.

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ALLEY CAT
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posted 11-21-2004 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
quote:
Originally posted by Ray:
Wore out the mouse pad as it had a white background (like that was smart), Issue of PROWL and a couple of the old PPC T-shirts ... LOVE 'EM cause they have a yellow Kat on 'em!

ray - I thought Nowell kicked you out of the old club? You were a pain in his as$, lol.



blackcat
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posted 11-21-2004 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackcat     
I thought the reason we moved was so that we could all get away from Ray!!!!!!! Haha! You're right AC I think he kicked himself off that board as well. Love yah Ray!


Orange
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posted 11-21-2004 09:20 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
ray - I thought Nowell kicked you out of the old club? You were a pain in his as$, lol.


Ray? A pain in the a$$? No way! Must have been a different Ray. Our Ray is so respectible of other people's ideas and opinions.

Ray
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posted 11-22-2004 08:29 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Ray? A pain in the a$$? No way! Must have been a different Ray. Our Ray is so respectible of other people's ideas and opinions.

And here I was beginning to warm up to you Orange ... <sigh> ... RPL is worried about the Canadian 407 thief .... hell Nowell and Johnny probably DESIGNED that plan! Too funny ... Yes, that discussion forum was like watching CBS news during the elections ... very biased, one-sided and censored 100%! LOL



Orange
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posted 11-22-2004 10:09 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by Ray:
And here I was beginning to warm up to you Orange ... <sigh> ... RPL is worried about the Canadian 407 thief .... hell Nowell and Johnny probably DESIGNED that plan! Too funny ... Yes, that discussion forum was like watching CBS news during the elections ... very biased, one-sided and censored 100%! LOL



Well, in all honesty, you have never been a pain to me, so I shouldn't say anything. I'm sure there are enough people here who do have the right to say something...


RPL
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posted 11-22-2004 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPL     
Guys go easy here. You're messing with my friend Ray. That's the guy that we have dinner with every time that he comes to Detroit or Woodward Dream Cruise. Heck, I think that we've even been ask to leave by the local police at least once.

This board was founded on free speech. Everyone has the right to express their opinion. You may choose to read it or not. But people for everyone's stake, don't make opinions personal. This is about ideas and potions not parentage. The NBA has a thing or two to learn about respect. Let's keep things above the belt.

I like Ray. I don't always like or agree with his opinions but God love America, he's welcome to them.

Ray
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posted 11-22-2004 11:09 AM           
Thank you Bob ... I don't recall the police part, but ... it's "all" good =) And yes, it was just after CAAP I where Mike K. and I met for the first time, and the PPC hypocricy was at its peak that Mr. Krehel (along with another?) thought "there has to be a better place for Prowler owners to share information, ideas and yes, even opinions freely and without reprisal from a 'moderator'". Thus the POA was 'born'. I don't get ruffled as some may think by what people may say ... many on here talk out of both sides of their mouths quite frankly ... at least I am consistent (like it or not).

Say, Bob ... Chicago tolls DO suck, and we have crappy roads as well - go figure ... but I hear that tolls in PA, NJ amd NY are even steeper! I was also amazed at how crappy the roads were out in the LA area ... freeways mostly, and they don't have the drastic climate change or heavy salting to contribute their condition either.

God Bless freedom of speach!

RPL
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posted 11-22-2004 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPL     
Ray, it was the police chief of Pleasant Ridge, Michigan personally inviting us to leave our parking place along Woodward one night. Maybe we were thrown out while parked waiting for you to catch up.


Ray
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posted 11-22-2004 01:09 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by RPL:
Ray, it was the police chief of Pleasant Ridge, Michigan personally inviting us to leave our parking place along Woodward one night. Maybe we were thrown out while parked waiting for you to catch up.

Ahhhhhhh ... YES, I do remember, was arriving in my rental just as the copper was leaving you guys form his "chat". Must be my CRS disease acting up again ... lol ... gotchya now!



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