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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Posts: 3709 From: Colton, CA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-18-2003 01:16 AM Tired of having things get caught or broken under your deck lid hinges? I have the solution! Only one bolt per hinge needs to be removed to install the guards. There is no need for re-adjustment of the decklid. I expect to sell these for about $20.00 per pair if painted and $15.00 per pair if unpainted. Should these be sold painted or unpainted? If painted, should they be Satin Black or Dark Grey? Does it matter if they're made of aluminum or steel? ------------------ Larry (Cruise Control) Lord Products for your Prowler and Trailer: Upright Trailer Storage Stands Latch Reinforcement Kits Kat Rack Cargo Carriers Chrome Receiver Locks Matching Locksets for Couplers and Receivers Larry@FMBbox.com This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 04-18-2003 at 01:39 AM
Marty Usher Prowler Junkie Posts: 13833 From: San Antonio, Texas Registered: JUN 2001	posted 04-18-2003 07:36 AM Good idea Larry- I had to switch from glass 1.5 liter Maker's Mark to plastic bottles! As far as paint, since all trunk area carpets are the gary, I would try to match that.
Randy Cobb Prowler Junkie Posts: 4070 From: Greensboro, NC Registered: JUL 2002	posted 04-18-2003 07:45 AM Larry: GREAT IDEA! I agree with Marty. Paint to match the carpet. I want a set. ------------------
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-18-2003 08:12 AM Another Lord of Wisdom product! While I rarely have a problem shutting the lid, I see that many owners do and this would surely help them. Is the one in the picture steel? Looks good enough for me, to keep the cost down. I know you'll want to get one set 100 point chromed for Mayes, lol. Your wheels are always turning,,,,,good idea!
Bob Goetz Prowler Junkie Posts: 2895 From: Belle Plaine MN USA Registered: MAY 2001	posted 04-18-2003 08:43 AM Great idea Larry, I want a set. Check out having them Powder Coated in a wrinkle finish its tough wont scratch or peel and its cheap if you do a bunch. If you can not find a cheap source let me know the guy I use does a great job and is real cheap if you pay cash.
CatDude Prowler Junkie Posts: 1593 From: Charlottesville, Va Registered: FEB 2002	posted 04-18-2003 09:03 AM I'd buy a pair.... doesn't matter to me what they are made of or the color... ------------------ VIRGINIA CAT DUDE '02 SILVER SEE THE LOUISVILLE, KY CD SEE THE LANCASTER, PA CD
JUST JP Prowler Junkie Posts: 1023 From: Navarre, Florida, USA Registered: OCT 2000	posted 04-18-2003 02:01 PM I would probably buy a set. ------------------ 2000 Black Kat "self-proclaimed" poorest Prowler owner mods: 1) ceramic pads 2) Bill's 2.1 intake with EGR bypass 3) "cracked ice" shimmers 4)51,500+ (s)miles
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 1023 From: Navarre, Florida, USA Registered: OCT 2000	posted 04-18-2003 02:22 PM Not to start a fight but, what gets caught or broken in the hinge area? What would happen to that same item if it were on top of this cover? It seems to me that if someone isn't paying attention when closing the trunk lid (without these) they probably wouldn't with them either and could still break stuff. I never carry anything in my trunkette so it's not an issue for me but, maybe alot of other folks do and are breaking stuff. Good idea if it works for them, I guess.
BeWare Prowler Junkie Posts: 18511 From: Acworth,GA,USA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-18-2003 02:27 PM Great Idea. I would buy a set (painted). Since they are an extension of the body and/or hinge I think they should be painetd to match.
Gary C Prowler Junkie Posts: 12017 From: San Diego Area Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-18-2003 03:34 PM Very Cool, paint them to match the carpet so you don't have to paint them '9 DIFFERENT COLOURS', make them a light guage steel(cheaper) and you can make a large batch. This way will take away all the colour matching problem in painting and shipping the correct colour to the car. There is a hammer coating that would look sharp better than a painted yellow, for instance, which might chip and look like H3ll..... JMO Again, very cool idea and I have smashed many a thing in there, sorry I wont need one after the Stereo and NOS mods, we will have no room. ------------------ HiBoy by Prowler Products
SirReal Prowler Junkie Posts: 3332 From: Burtonsville,Md Good ole U.S.A Registered: MAR 2003	posted 04-18-2003 09:12 PM Steel to aluminum hmm. I'd call it the No Cringe Hinge.
TFischer Prowler Junkie Posts: 4913 From: Texas, USA Registered: MAR 2002	posted 04-18-2003 10:00 PM Great idea Larry! There have been several times when I have had my flag caddies or my California Duster get caught up under the hinges and have almost closed the trunk lid without seeing them. Let me know when they are complete. Tami
WildCat Prowler Junkie Posts: 6862 From: Just north of Louisville Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-18-2003 10:17 PM Good Idea Larry I would agree with Bob about powder coating in gray or satin black, (ONE SIZE FITS ALL) I have had the tip of umbrella under it and other things. It does happen no matter how careful you are Put me down for a set, if you do not want to paint them that is OK with me I'll do it....hummmmmm, CHROME, DID SOMEONE SAY CHROME? ------------------ Larry & Sue Mayes
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Posts: 3709 From: Colton, CA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-19-2003 12:16 AM I've been working all day on the new products and plan on welding the KatRacks together this Sunday. The aluminum for the KatRack trays will be here Monday and I expect to get it sheared, punched and bent by Tuesday. I'll be fabricating the steel hinge guards on Tuesday and Wednesday and expect to have them headed to the paint shop on Thursday. I'm leaving for vacation next Thursday and am hoping to have everything into the paint shop before I leave. Hopefully it will all be back from the paint shop when I arrive home and I can start packaging and shipping by mid May or sooner. After doing a time study and cost analysis today, I've decided that I priced the hinge guards much too low. After I get the cost of painting and packaging I'll establish a selling price. I made a change to my hinge guard design today that will now allow you to install the guards without removing any bolts. This change makes the installation much faster and easier. The hinge guards will be made of 16 Ga. Electro Galvanized Steel and powdercoated with satin black polyurethane. Aluminum hinge guards can be made by special order for those wishing to polish or chrome them. I've decided to paint the hinge guards satin black. This will help to save some cost since I am already painting the KatRacks satin black. Everything being the same color makes a larger batch and a lower cost per piece for the powdercoating. Unpainted parts will be available to those who wish to paint their own color of choice. ------------------ Larry (Cruise Control) Lord Products for your Prowler and Trailer: Upright Trailer Storage Stands Trailer Latch Reinforcement Kits KatRack Stowable Cargo Carriers Pro-Strap Velcro Tie Straps Keyed Alike Chrome Locksets Deck Lid Hinge Guards Chrome Hitch Covers Chrome Receiver Locks Chrome Coupler Locks Larry@FMBbox.com This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 04-19-2003 at 12:23 AM
markjohnsonfla unregistered Posts: 3709 From: Colton, CA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-19-2003 08:15 AM again larry just contstructive criticism, look at the curves, follow the curves in the background it will give it a more factory blended look, just an opinion, oh and the picture is done for my luggage rack design but i dont know how to post it so you can get opinions on yours and mine and see what the majority of people like: ), mark at lastsweetone@yahoo.com
Marty Usher Prowler Junkie Posts: 13833 From: San Antonio, Texas Registered: JUN 2001	posted 04-19-2003 08:33 AM Larry - for those of us that actually use our Prowlers as cars, these are a great idea. Especially with my nitrous bottle in back, I am constantly cramming things in any available space left. Gary C - if he makes them from steel instead of aluminum the extra weight might cost you .001 seconds at the track. ------------------ *2000 Black with hand painted blue faded to purple flames*
markjohnsonfla unregistered Posts: 13833 From: San Antonio, Texas Registered: JUN 2001	posted 04-19-2003 08:56 AM ive got a new hinge design pic for you larry but yet again i dont know how to post it here mark johnson
FL Blue Kat Prowler Junkie Posts: 471 From: Zellwood, FL Registered: JAN 2003	posted 04-19-2003 09:01 AM Larry -- Product looks good. Would like a set. IMHO you should make from aluminum and, as specified, optioanl paint (my choice would be painted).
markjohnsonfla unregistered Posts: 471 From: Zellwood, FL Registered: JAN 2003	posted 04-19-2003 09:13 AM larry i just sent you a new luggage rack design and a new hinge design to your email, only trying to help the success of your sales, : ),mark
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Posts: 3709 From: Colton, CA Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-19-2003 01:03 PM No fear here Mark! Great ideas and designs but this is where inspiration meets reality. I deal with designers everyday that have great talent but have no concept of what it takes to produce their designs. **Picture deleted per Mark's request Mark, As I stated before, I like your designs but they are not cost effective in small quantities. This design while nice, will require the use af hard tooling dies to manufacture it or it will require a lot of time to hand fabricate them. Sorry buddy but it's just not cost effective in small quantities. One other point is that maybe you should get the full story before you make assumptions. You have no idea what my plans for this product are and in fact these parts are part of a bigger plan. They were initially designed to hold my KatRack in place while stored in the trunk. The flat surface and the height of my hinge guards is required to give the rack a seating surface and also allow a means of locating the tray and securing it for travel. As the hinge guards evolved I noted their practicality and dual function. I decided to make the guards as a stand alone product since I feel that most owners will find these a very useful and almost required update to their Prowler. *Picture deleted per Mark's request*** Mark, Again, great idea and design but also again here is where reality sucks. Your design has a few problems that will need to be addressed,,,,,, Where can I find crescent shaped luggage? A carry-on bag 14" x 24" (airline spec) will not fit your rack. Your design will require extensive metal forming and heli-arc welding which will make the cost skyrocket. A hitch receiver 20" or so behind the bumper creates a very long moment arm which will not be capable of towing a trailer with the recommended 100# maximum tongue weight. (I already had this idea but scrapped it early on). Why would a person need to use a luggage rack and their trailer simultaneously? Mark, Thank you for all of your suggestions but I feel that both of my newest products will serve the needs of the Prowler well. My objective when I started this project was to build a functional rack at a reasonable cost that will allow the owners to transport carry-on bags easily and be able to store the unit in their trunk. I feel that I have accomplished my goals with both of these new products and am very confident that others will feel the same. ------------------ Larry (Cruise Control) Lord Products for your Prowler and Trailer: Upright Trailer Storage Stands Trailer Latch Reinforcement Kits KatRack Stowable Cargo Carriers Pro-Strap Velcro Tie Straps Keyed Alike Chrome Locksets Deck Lid Hinge Guards Chrome Hitch Covers Chrome Receiver Locks Chrome Coupler Locks Larry@FMBbox.com
ALLEY CAT Prowler Junkie Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-20-2003 12:31 AM Lord - since I ordered and prepaid for 50 of those Prowler golf carts,,,,,could you fabricate a hinge guard for them?
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 36093 From: Mesa, Az Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-20-2003 11:41 AM quote: Originally posted by ALLEY CAT: Lord - since I ordered and prepaid for 50 of those Prowler golf carts,,,,,could you fabricate a hinge guard for them? No need to kick a dead horse, he's gone!
Gary C Prowler Junkie Posts: 12017 From: San Diego Area Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-20-2003 12:01 PM For once I agree with YF, LOL,,,, ------------------ HiBoy by Prowler Products
YellowFever unregistered Posts: 12017 From: San Diego Area Registered: JUL 2000	posted 04-20-2003 12:48 PM quote: Originally posted by Gary C: For once I agree with YF, LOL,,,, See, there is hope for you yet!!!!!!!!
MIKE GATLIN Prowler Junkie Posts: 4307 From: Flushing, MI Registered: AUG 2000	posted 04-20-2003 03:27 PM Jeesh, think I'm gonna go play some golf...if I only had a cart. Anyone have any ideas?