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Wayne Finch
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posted 04-02-2003 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     
The following appeared today in many papers both in Canada and the US.


An Open Letter to U.S. President George Bush from Concerned Canadians

Dear Mr. President:

Yesterday, in an extraordinary speech, Paul Cellucci, your ambassador to Canada, expressed sadness and disappointment that our government has failed to back up your efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction.

Canada, said Mr. Cellucci, "is not there for us".

We want you to know, Mr. President, that many Canadians, including the 40,000 supporters of our organization, share your ambassador's sense of sadness. We believe Prime Minister Jean Chretien is not only turning his back on our allies, he's also turning his back on Canada's proud tradition of standing up for freedom and democracy.

Canadians fought beside Americans in World War II and in Korea. We stood with you during the long years of the Cold War. We battled shoulder to shoulder in the first Gulf War and in Afghanistan. We are continuing to fight with you in the ongoing war against international terrorism.

In other words, it has never been Canada's way to sit on the sidelines and watch while others fight for what is right. And that's why many Canadians are embarrassed and ashamed that our Government has opted not to join the "Coalition of the Willing".

Our hearts go out the brave Coalition soldiers who are fighting to make the war a freer and safer place. Canada and the world owe them a great debt.

Yours truly,

Colin T. Brown
Chairman
National Citizens Coalition

This message has been edited by Wayne Finch on 04-02-2003 at 08:16 AM

TLRandall
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posted 04-02-2003 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLRandall     
Some of the leaders may not have it right - but it's the people that count.

Thanks!

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DR PROWLER
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posted 04-02-2003 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     
He couldn't heve expressed my feelings exactly.
We should have been there with the U.S.troops!
I can only hope our next Prime Minister has more common sense.


Randy Cobb
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posted 04-02-2003 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Hey Canuck brothers, thanks for sharing with us!

Hate to ask a question on a possibly sore subject, but is this war opposition a Province by Province thing, a French Canadian thing, neither or both?

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DR PROWLER
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posted 04-02-2003 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     
Randy,
I believe that(same as in U.S.)there is always going to exist an opposition to the war.From talking to Canadians,I feel general consensus is that our government dropped the ball on this issue.The best way to describe how people feel is a recent Blue Jays game where they plaied "God bless America"and raised the American flag in support of the U.S. troops!


Wayne Finch
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posted 04-02-2003 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Finch     
Randy, as Roman said, there is always a large opposition to war in any country. I believe the opposition is stronger by the French (globally) but the real issue is our deadbeat Prime Minister who effectively runs the country like a dictatorship. This is especially now that he announced he will retire next February and could care less about what anyone thinks of him. Perhaps he plans to retire and move to France.

Our political system is such that no competent individual would ever seek office because nothing can ever get done except bickering between polical parties (yes it is worse here than in the US). You cannot make a difference and the salaries are pathetic relative to what a talented guy could make in the corporate world. (Prime Minister I think makes about US 150,000 or less and everyone else around him less - a good corporate executive would make more than 10 times that without the same frustrations)

Paul
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posted 04-02-2003 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul     
Wayne, thanks for posting this letter.


Randy Cobb
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posted 04-02-2003 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Thanks for the response guys. I'm just curious.

For what it's worth, every Canadian I've had the pleasure to deal with was A-OK. I go to Myrtle Beach, SC quite a bit and that's a haven for Canucks. I'm not saying there is not some jerks in Canada, just that my experiences have always been positive.

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PROWLER-KEITH
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posted 04-02-2003 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PROWLER-KEITH     
Wayne thankyou for taking the time to post that piece. That excuse we call a leader has embarrassed us Canadian's one more time and hopefully for this will be the last time before the "waste of skin" leaves office and falls off the face of the earth.

Last weekend we had a surprize 40th b-day party for my youngest brother and some of the people at our house we're from our military, one is even a Major of course the conversation comes up about the war. Everyone of them has been in a war conflict somewhere in the world and they all said the same thing "Why is HE doing this to our Country and our Fighting Men and Women" I just hope that our American neighbors realize that just because he is our Prime Minister and although he speaks for Canada in these situation's "HE DOES NOT SPEAK WHAT'S IN OUR HEARTS"

Our War dead are rolling over in their graves I'm sure. As a proud Canadian I salute the Coalition Fighters and prayer for their victory and safe return home to their loved ones.

PK

This message has been edited by PROWLER-KEITH on 04-02-2003 at 08:26 PM

CJ
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posted 04-02-2003 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     
Thanks!


ALLEY CAT
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posted 04-02-2003 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
I've been sitting around letting this eat at me for two weeks without saying anything more. Wayne, I'm glad you brought it up to the board and I (we) appreciate the kind thoughts from our Canadian friends.

Further, our ambassador also said this in his address:

"If it was a Canadian city and Canadian citizens that had experienced the terror of Sept 11th, 2001,,,,,you can believe your United States neighbors would be standing shoulder to shoulder with you to avenge this tragedy"

I was in shock to discover that Canada hadn't joined or supported us in this matter. I now feel alittle better reading the above. Thanks again Wayne.

PROWLER-KEITH
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posted 04-02-2003 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PROWLER-KEITH     
OK AC first of all a couple of weeks how could you count that high .. Our troops came to Afghanistan without hesitation so we why did he not commit them also to Iraq only that Pimple Head will know I guess?? Our Canadian troops have proven their bravery beyond any doubt in virtually every war there's been and also their commitment to overthrow the tyrants that have threatened to our freedom and peaceful way of life. Now because of one ignorant discussion by our government a large part of our American Neighbors think less of us. I truly believe that most who judge us now will always judge us as they feel now irregardless of all our proven commitments to engage the common enemy in the past. This saddens me very much as many of my family members through out time have given their lives in past wars for our freedom

PK

This message has been edited by PROWLER-KEITH on 04-02-2003 at 10:11 PM

Thunder
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posted 04-03-2003 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder     
Wayne,

Thanks for posting this. I would also like to Thank our American Brothers. Our governments decision is political in more ways than one. In this highly taxed Country our Military has been under funded for years, the ongoing fiasco with our 40 year old Helicopters (Seakings)is just one example. I have heard reports there are Canadian Troops in Iraq, but the Government won't confirm or deny! We are in Afghanistan, the Persian Gulf, and serval other places Globally. We really are with you !!!

Steven R. Gary
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posted 04-03-2003 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven R. Gary     
Also want to put in my two cent. It seem like the majority of people support what is right no matter what country they live in. My girl friend has family in Germany and talks to them regularly and they also are discouraged with there goverment and its stand on the quote "War". I refer to this action not as a war because it is just like Vietnam. If our goverment declared it a war they would need to pay benefits to the survivors families of those killed in action, so again politics enters this. Guess they feel they need to save money so they can up their salaries.


ETMIDZT
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posted 04-03-2003 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ETMIDZT     
Thanks for posting the letter! I sell products to Canada & my customer feels the same way.....They'd like to be involved with us & the Brits. in Iraq!
Matter of fact...I talked this morning with one of my customers in the U.K. We talked about our troups working together, Mr. Blair & Mr. Bush. Was very interesting to find how the Brits feel about the French(Lets just say .....many, many jokes).
This guy is flying an American at his home in the U.K.!!
What Great allies!!


Brian King
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posted 04-03-2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian King     
Wayne; Thank You for your posting, as I said to you I have been sitting on the “sidelines” fearing my views may not be understood by some of my Quebec friends.

We in Canada have had issues with our Quebec “ anti Canadian “ citizens for years.
Ever since the British defeated them on the plains outside Quebec City.

I was born in Montreal Quebec in the late 40’s and have lived in Ontario since 1963. When I lived in Montreal we would look for fights with the “ French” and they would look for us, the FLQ was born only blocks from where I lived. (Formation of Front de Libération du Québec (FLQ); marked the beginning of several waves of terrorist actions taken in Québec from 1963-1973.For my American friends these are French people who in the 60’s and 70’s killed elected officials “Pierre Laporte Minister of Labour” kidnapped “James Cross British High Commissioner” and terrorized the public by planting bombs in mailboxes and homes. To this day they have run their Province and still talk of Separating from the rest of Canada and joining the USA. They feel that the US would welcome them and allow them to run their separate State speaking their own language and conducting their Foreign Affairs, as they see fit. “Feb 27, 1965 First International Agreement of Quebec with France. Beginning of periodic clashes with the Federal Government over role and presence of Quebec in international affairs.”

We have over the past decades elected some of these same officials to run our Federal Government. P. Trudeau was seen on the streets of Montreal with his motorcycle and a Nazi Flag waving off the back of it, during WW II. He went to study in Russia in the 50’s and 60’s , yet we still elected him to power. Our current Prime Minister (ex-Finical Minister under Trudeau) was part of a group of French Quebecois who in the 60’s decided what they wanted Canada to be on the world stage.

One went on to be head of the seperatse movement and became Premier of Quebec. Rene Levesque. He was also a leader of an Anti War Group during WW II; the French Quebec People did not believe they should have to fight in Europe even though the Federal government sent our troops to fight..

We have an election process in this country that makes the method of electing a President look like the best thing since sliced bread, even after the last US election.
The Quebec Population due to our election process, (26 % of total population ) controls our current parliament and they reflect only some of the views of the people within that Province and less of those across Canada.

We have elected more Prime Ministers from the Quebec region during the past 6 decades (4 of 6) then any other region within Canada. Most have reflected the views established in the earlier 60’s.

Hopefully this little history lesson on OUR Government and the issues affecting us, will allow you to understand why, our Current Federal Officials are acting in a manner that does not reflect the view of the majority of Canadians and why some of the people of Quebec act as they do at Sporting Events.

Other Provincial Governments have come out against the current stand our Federal Government has taken on this issue.

Most Canadian people as many have already stated support the United States and Britain on their stand against Terrorism and the Freeing of Iraq’s people.

I have spent more vacation time in the USA then in my own country and hope to continue to do so in the future. We share many common interest and beliefs and enjoy many of the same freedoms we are hoping to allow others to do.
Randy Cobb asked “ Hate to ask a question on a possibly sore subject, but is this war opposition a Province by Province thing, a French Canadian thing, neither or both? “ Hope this helps explain some of which you asked.
Thank you for allowing me this opportunity to express my opinion on this very sensitive issue.



BeWare
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posted 04-03-2003 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     
Thanks Wayne for posting this. And thanks to you and all the Canadian citizens for your support.

This message has been edited by BeWare on 04-03-2003 at 06:59 PM

ALLEY CAT
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posted 04-03-2003 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Brian King - Thanks for the history lesson! I thought most of our POA members probably had a different viewpoint than the politicans of Canada.


Only because you are north of us!


Randy Cobb
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posted 04-04-2003 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Cobb     
Brian:

Thanks for clarifying things. I thought that sentiments among the Canadian citizens were different that what is being portrayed by the federal government.

I was just curious and your history lesson explains a lot.

Thanks again from your brother in the South.

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moparmania
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posted 04-05-2003 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moparmania     
Did You Hear The One about the French guy & English guy walking on the beach . They find a magic lamp rub it a Gene comes out and grants them a wish each . The french guy wishes to have a 100 foot wall built around Quebec so no one can bother them . Then the English guy asks to fill it half full of water.....

I think thats pretty much how the rest of Canada feels about our prime minister and Quebec.......

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