posted 02-24-2003 02:05 PM         

The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An
interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the
car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia.
Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family,
and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are
the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern
oil

Shell............................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco.............144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil.................130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway......117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION!

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Citgo....................0 barrels
Sunoco............. ..0 barrels
Conoco............. ..0 barrels
Sinclair............... 0 barrels
BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
Hess...................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing. They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car;
share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism.............
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
buyers.
It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out at this point...keep
reading
and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to
at
least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches
the
sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
goes
one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How much would all
that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within
one day 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
next
eight days!

posted 02-24-2003 03:50 PM         

The flaw in the logic of the author's protest is that all the companies you listed have Middle East ties to their product. I know that the supplied info comes from the DOE and is true to an extent. There are exchanges and trades by all oil companies in the ditribution chain. Just because you buy gasoline from a dealer who supplies fuel from a company who doesn't use Middle East crude doesn't mean that the the fuel you bought was refined from US crude. At least one of the second listed companies imports the product already refined. Other points - BP/Phillips and Amoco are the same merged co. and Citgo is owned by the nationalized oil company of Venezuela. The Ven oil union has been on strike much of the time during the recent political problems in Venezuela and Citgo has purchased refined and crude products directly from or from interests of the Middle East. Not enough space or time to go into how ALL of the oil business is somewhat incested with Middle East ties.

Not buying from a local station will only hurt the local businessman. Most retail gallons are sold by local dealers who purchase their fuel from a distributor (like me) or direct from a major oil supplier. These poor guys are getting most of the public anger, but in truth are barely making it due to thin margins and a 60% increase in their cost of inventory. Contrary to public perception, few gallons are sold through major oil co. owned and operated locations.

posted 02-24-2003 04:16 PM         

Some of the companies listed above as not importing foreign oil, actually do.

According to the Department of Enegery, the source of oil from a particular cannot be traced for certain because of trades, etc as Randy has mentioned. Here is the link for that page:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/experts/contactexperts.htm

Our power is not in boycotting gasoline but is in petitioning our law makers to put pressure on the oil companies not to gouge the "little people."

I also found a commentary on the chain email at about.com
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-boycott-oil2.htm

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posted 02-24-2003 06:16 PM         

Don't really know how fast you are so will play it cool right now.

JD, is going to love you after he reads this... He is going to fall over on his chair....

HHHHUUUUUMMMMMM ......

posted 02-24-2003 09:19 PM         

And here I thought we had a good friendship ... I would punch back but my dad tought me not to punch girls ..

That was COLD ... going for the kill huh??

I'm not messing with Marc only because I know Nitrous will kick my but right from the get go. By the time I get my centrifical blower boosting real good. Marc is gone.

I know my limitations.... Now JD ... Different story!!

I can take it ... If you put it out you got to be willing to take it... I can take it ...

posted 02-24-2003 11:40 PM         

I've driven a nitrous KAT and its a blast. Much more torque right from the get go. My supercharged KAT will never generate that kind of torque from the get go like nitrous does.

I'm just messing with CJ. I know she is messing with me too. I hope she knows that. By no means do I take any of this personal. I'm kinda bored actually. I want some FUN

posted 02-24-2003 11:42 PM         

By the way Marc, what I meant is with your Prowler Pro setup you will leave the line way sooner than I will. That is only if you don't loose some serious traction. Then maybe I have a chance.

posted 02-25-2003 06:14 AM         

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OOOOOHHHHHHH Cj, And here I thought we had a good friendship ... I would punch back but my dad tought me not to punch girls ..That was COLD ... going for the kill huh??

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Hmmmmmmm, Dan......I thought we did, too. I re-read my reply and I don't see your name mentioned anywhere, do you?

quote:

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I know my limitations.... Now JD ... Different story!!

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A story you only THINK you know..........

quote:

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I can take it ... If you put it out you got to be willing to take it... I can take it ...

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..........so can I......even though I am a "girl"......

posted 02-25-2003 08:47 AM         

I don't have to overcompensate to prove something

We would not be so dependant upon oil from there if the tree huggers would allow them to drill in Alaska or offshore Florida, California, etc. people are brainwashed into thinking having this stuff there would pollute their state (mind you, they don't mind polluting other states as long as they get their gas).

posted 02-25-2003 07:22 PM         

When are the auto makers going to really get on the ball and make something that can compete in cost and performance with gas-powered vehicles?

There have been a few gas/electric hybrids out there, but not really anything substantial. The car companies hold the key to ridding our country of the dependence on Middle East oil.

If it became important enough, our country is innovative enough to make the transition. When will this become important enough?

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posted 02-26-2003 08:58 AM         

Sounds like a great idea, maybe someday we can do that drive together.

posted 03-01-2003 02:36 PM         

Yellow Fever is right in that there is more than enough oil reserves in this hemisphere to satisfy our needs. We are just spoiled in that we want the best of all worlds. We want cheap, available gasoline and other oil products, but we don't want drilling in our back yards or off our own coasts.

Just my opinion.

posted 03-01-2003 04:56 PM         

If gaseous fuel is such a problem v. liquid fuel, then why does half the U.S use natural gas for heating homes?

I'm not saying "natural gas cars"... The obvious fuel to compete with gasoline is hydrogen.

Another obvious power source is electricity. You just plug your car into the nearest outlet and charge up. Of course, though, we know that electric cars to date can't compete in performance (speed, range, etc...) with gas-powered cars.

We are getting off of the point I was making, though... The point I was making is... The general public (us) can do very little to affect the U.S. demand for oil... unless we all just stop driving altogether. The people who have power to affect the demand for oil are the people who are in charge of U.S. policies (politicians) and in charge of making oil-burning products (primarily auto makers).

We didn't build the current infrastructure overnight... If we can't use the current infrastucture to deliver the next popular fuel, then so be it... It may take time, but we have the ability to make the change.