posted 01-17-2003 10:43 AM         

I don't work for Dodge, Frank is a just good man and I will always buy my DC products from him.

thanks for the info..i just wonder what they call REASONABLE

10k over....

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davidn

I'd wait a year (or at least till the end of this one) as prices for new (like everything else) will be artificially inflated (remember the $60K prowlers???)

posted 01-17-2003 02:52 PM         

I did ask Frank about price when he told me that these may be available. I asked if he'd sell for sticker price, he said "Yes, or less" (Sticker $83,795 I believe)

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Originally posted by Andy R:
Looks like you can get a reasonable deal now.

I did ask Frank about price when he told me that these may be available. I asked if he'd sell for sticker price, he said "Yes, or less" (Sticker $83,795 I believe)

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Considering you can get a new 2002 GTS (sticker $80K) for $64K now, you can see why I would say wait.

I doubt the new ones will be that low. IMO, I'd get the 2002 and pocket the extra $20K+ in something else.

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Originally posted by Andy R:
The sticker on a new 2002 is $76,000. The 2003 is a totally new vehichle and engine (500hp vs. 450hp).

I was looking at a brand new 2002 GTS and the factory window sticker was $79K+. The RT/10 was $76K. Anyway, you can buy these new from alot of dealers discounted down to $64K for a GTS (new, 2002). That is a pretty hefty discount.
Is the new model really worth that much more for the extra (really not needed) 50hp?

I'm not sure why some people think the last year of a car makes it worth more. Look at the Prowler. I bought a new 2002 yellow (last year) for only $38K so why wouldn't the last year (kind of a misnomer since it really isn't the last year) 2002 Viper be worth more? In fact, I can't think of a single car where a body change made the outgoing model worth more. (everyone wants the new one)

Keep in mind too, with any new car, the first year is the one they work the kinks out with. The first year is usually severlly overpriced for those with cash that HAVE to have it now and HAVE to be first.

Personally, I'll wait and be number 1700 in line but, save $15K

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Originally posted by CTProwler:
I hate Buying New,+ loosing $10000 to $12000 leaving the Lot. I have had good luck Buying cars a Year or two old under 4000 miles, and saving the money.

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That's a good point CT, however, you can buy a new (no mileage) 2002 Viper discounted $15K+ right now. A 2002 with 4000 miles on it will not be much less (probably can't be cause the guy owes this much on it)

Now is a GREAT time to buy a 2002 Viper

posted 01-18-2003 11:13 AM         

It said that the '03s are not available to the general public. It said that all 1,800 produced were taken by members of the Viper Club. It said the Viper Club had first dibs on them.

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Originally posted by Andy R:
YellowF, that was probaby a final edition GTS that you were looking at which is a $3000 option. Both NADA and Kelly Blue Book list 2002 GTS at $73,000 retail (+$3000 gas guzzler).

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This was a yellow one with grey stripes. I think the final edition you are speaking of only came in red (I stand to be corrected though)

Randy, I heard that too about the Viper club. Or at least they had first dibs on them.

While it probobaly is faster, I think it lost alot of the character put in the first model. The buldges and scoops defined that car, IMO. The new one looks like a camaro (headon) from a distance....

posted 01-18-2003 11:24 PM         

The first dibs on 2003 Vipers were offered not to the Viper Club of America, but to anyone who purchased new and still owned a Viper, whether or not they were a member of the VCA.

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Originally posted by CTProwler:
I emailed the dealer he wants $90000

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Tell him you'll take it at that price.

And since he obviously knows the value of beautiful cars he will be the first to realize that your prowler is worth $93K on trade (tell him to hurry though cause they don't make the prowler anymore and it is likely to double in value in the next few weeks)

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Originally posted by topcat:
Who are the dealers selling the 2002 Vipers GTS for 64K??? I like the new look of the Viper 2003 but I love the coupe look on the 2002. I have been dealing with Latham Motors and there telling 70K for a 2002 Viper GTS.

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Everytime I call Latham, their prices are more then what I find elsewhere. They may be a nice dealer but, their prices are too high, IMO. I'd say just look around (or make an offer to some).

Houston is not typically a town where cars are sold cheap but, if I can find them for this price in this area, they should be out there in others.

What I do is a search for "dodge" and a particular state (or possibly town) on the internet and canvas them for inventory and what they would sell them for.

You should have no problem finding one (or a dozen) for $64K