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Kelly T
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From: Coto de Caza, CA, USA
Registered: FEB 2002

posted 10-15-2002 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kelly T     
I'm thinking it's time to "get along little doggy" with the Prowler. I have had fun with it but I want to make room for something new. It is clean as a whistle. Always garaged, never seen a drop of rain, some nice modifications (see list below), never abused (like peeling rubber), and the best color around (no offense to the non-black vehicles). I bought it brand new in May, 2000 and is the last of the Plymouth brand (no offense to Chryslerites). It has around 4,400 miles. What is your unbiased, marketable price? I would appreciate your input.

List:
Mac Motorsport Suspension Braces
Mac Motorsport Air Intake
Real Rod Front End & Hi Flo Mufflers & Air Patrol
Carlini-Trans Cooler Cover, Chrome Front Struts & Braided Brake lines
Prowler Pro Gears
Stainless Radiator & Side Panel Braces
Raybestos Ceramic Front Pads

Mucho Gracias fellow Prowler appraisers.

This message has been edited by Kelly T on 10-15-2002 at 10:48 PM

YellowFever
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From: Coto de Caza, CA, USA
Registered: FEB 2002

posted 10-15-2002 11:31 PM           
While your mods are nice, don't expect to get much more for them (if any). Sorry, don't shoot the messenger. Rule of thumb is, if not listed in NADA or Kelley, they won't count.
True, if being sold next to a stock one of the same color, it might make yours more appealing but, probably not worth more.

I don't know what you originally paid for yours but, I just bought a new 2002 for only $38K. I have found numerous 2001 (new) for mid $30's. There are still roughly, 800 new ones out there that most dealers are seriously discounting.

Being a 2000, with those kind of miles (it really won't matter whether it's a Plymouth or a Chrysler) it is probably worth mid to upper 20's as a trade (upper 20's being a stretch) to very low 30's selling it yourself.

Best of luck.

Flyer
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posted 10-16-2002 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flyer     
I think it's worth somewhere in the mid 30's on the West Coast. Nice car. Wish I had the room in my garage.
I will never part with my Kat!

Good Luck
Todd


2yello
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From: kent ohio usa
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posted 10-16-2002 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2yello     
So why is a 2002 worth 8 to 10 thousand more than a low mile perfect condition 2000? Its not new the moment you leave the dealers lot. Ill take the 2000 and all the mods over the not new anymore 2002. They didnt improve them any over those two years did they?


spoons
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posted 10-16-2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     
What are you going to get to replace the Prowler?

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YellowFever
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posted 10-16-2002 01:00 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by 2yello:
So why is a 2002 worth 8 to 10 thousand more than a low mile perfect condition 2000? Its not new the moment you leave the dealers lot. Ill take the 2000 and all the mods over the not new anymore 2002. They didnt improve them any over those two years did they?

1) The 2002 is not different, my price was for a NEW 7 miles on the OD one.

2) There are alot of LOWER mileage 2000's out there for sale.

3)True, now I probably would get low 30's if I tried to sell mine now too.

The difference is, a new car will always garner more then a used one (even of the same year). Dealers are hawking NEW ones in POA for 35-39K depending on color and year. Most people wouldn't pay anywhere near that for a 2 year old one when they can have new.

Perhaps you should contact the seller and offer him $43K for his



Todd Cameron
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posted 10-16-2002 04:53 PM           
High and low of 25-25 K, anything over 30K your doing good to get and winter is coming, expect sales prices to drop, especially if Bush gets his new war going.

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YellowFever
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posted 10-16-2002 05:21 PM           
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Cameron:
especially if Bush gets his new war going.


Not his, OURS and if we don't, expect another 9-11 or worse. Only way to deal with these bazturds is to take em out!



butchcee
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posted 10-16-2002 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
you're not a commie are you Todd???


Kelly T
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posted 10-16-2002 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kelly T     
quote:
Originally posted by spoons:
What are you going to get to replace the Prowler?

Well, I have a '03 Porsche Turbo on order that is supposed to arrive in January. Problem is I just picked up another new car last Sunday on an impulse buy. Now I have 7 cars sitting at my house. It's not a distressed situation. It's more of an issue of finding room to park them. I have an '02 Viper that will more than likely go on the block as well. Bottom line is if I can unload two cars before the Porsche arrives, I won't have to hire a parking valet to help out around the house.

This message has been edited by Kelly T on 10-16-2002 at 06:43 PM

Racer X
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posted 10-16-2002 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Racer X     
quote:
Originally posted by YellowFever:
Not his, OURS and if we don't, expect another 9-11 or worse. Only way to deal with these bazturds is to take em out!


Here!!! Here!!!

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94' Mustang Cobra(Power Trip)
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YellowFever
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posted 10-16-2002 06:55 PM           
1) You could get a car lift or two (if you don't have them already)

2) As someone that recently had one, I'd unload the 03 turbo for a couple of reasons;

a) It's not that distinctive any more (witness the C4S)
b) They are not holding their value, or going up in price, like they were 2 years ago.
c) As a Porsche fanatic, I didn't like it as much as the older ones (too bland inside and out for a supercar)


Chromer
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posted 10-16-2002 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     
Don't take less than 20 Grand!


Todd Cameron
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posted 10-17-2002 02:48 AM           
Sad fact, w's daddy should of taken out "the man" 10 years ago, but didn't because of the money involved. Now his son wants to take him out, which, while a good thing, yes... and needs to be done yes... is not going to be so good for our economy.


Todd Cameron
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posted 10-17-2002 03:10 AM           
Notice Jason's 2001 Orange on an MSO that he is having prblems moving for $35,500 in the classifieds! That will give you an idea.


2yello
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From: kent ohio usa
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posted 10-17-2002 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2yello     
No where in my response did I say what I thought the value of the cars is. The point was there isnt a 8 to 10 thousand dollar diff between a 2000 and a 2002 if they are both low mile mint cars. I have never seen a prowler that wasnt wrecked go for mid twentys , a price you love to quote.


YellowFever
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From: kent ohio usa
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posted 10-17-2002 07:07 AM           
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Cameron:
Sad fact, w's daddy should of taken out "the man" 10 years ago, but didn't because of the money involved. Now his son wants to take him out, which, while a good thing, yes... and needs to be done yes... is not going to be so good for our economy.

It was not up to George Sr, to "take him out". The mission, and what the coalition agreed to (and what he promised the Saudi's), was to get them out of Kuwait. Once accomplished, the mission was over. It had nothing to do with the money.

Most felt, at the time, Saddam would have lost face and be run out by his own people for doing this to them. We can all sit here and be armchair quarterbacks and see what should or could have been done 10 years ago. Heck, if that worked, I'd like to change a few of my numbers on the "Powerball" a few years ago

It has been said many times, "The price of freedom is not cheap". Yes, war costs money but, the alternative will cost lives and alot more. Try explaining how war is not good for the economy of the families of the 3000 killed on 9-11. Or the next 3000 if we do nothing. We cannot be sheep or merely worried about a buck or two.

Not that it matters but, I also seem to recall that when the economy of this country was in the doldrums a number of years ago, FDR brought us into war and that ended up being a big boost to the economy. Go figure.

Switching gears (like the segway?), I seem to recall Jason's car is on eBay and has not reached $30K yet.

quote:
Originally posted by 2Yello:No where in my response did I say what I thought the value of the cars is. The point was there isnt a 8 to 10 thousand dollar diff between a 2000 and a 2002 if they are both low mile mint cars. I have never seen a prowler that wasnt wrecked go for mid twentys , a price you love to quote.

You are correct, the difference is between a NEW 2002 and a USED 2000. If both are USED, they would be alot closer in price.

The 20's price is WHOLESALE (ie. trading it in to a dealer or wholesaler). The low 30's price is RETAIL (ie. you selling it yourself).

If you look on eBay (a fairly good rule of thumb) you will see NEW 2002's getting no higher then mid to upper 30's for a NEW car. Some dealers will list NEW 2002's for $42K or $45K and the typically get no bids because the price is too high.

Used ones on eBay are in the upper 20's to lower 30's. Wholesalers know this and are not going to buy your car for a retail price. Expect them to take 25-30% off the lower price if you choose to sell it to a WHOLESALER.

I hope this clears this up.

This message has been edited by YellowFever on 10-17-2002 at 07:17 AM

2yello
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posted 10-17-2002 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2yello     
Hey K. T. bet your glad to here that your 03 turbo is a bland, non distinctive car that is tanking in value even before you get it.


JRL
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posted 10-17-2002 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JRL     
I just looked my auction reports, real life sales and the only one on the sheets for the last 6 weeks was a 2000 in the Dallas area with 8000 miles that wholesaled for $30,000!!!.
A lot of money these days but this is a real figure so who knows. In the right area it might retail for 32-33.
JRL


Kelly T
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From: Coto de Caza, CA, USA
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posted 10-17-2002 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kelly T     
quote:
Originally posted by 2yello:
Hey K. T. bet your glad to here that your 03 turbo is a bland, non distinctive car that is tanking in value even before you get it.

If I based my decision on what's not tanking these days, there wouldn't be anything descent to pick from. Having ice water thrown on your plans is the risk you take when posting on these discussion boards. Funny thing is, I avoided mentioning the Porsche in my original post. I only brought it up after someone asked what I was getting to replace the Prowler. But hey, to each his own. One mans dislike is another mans desire. I'm just glad that I can afford the opportunity to find out for myself.

2yello
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From: kent ohio usa
Registered: DEC 2001

posted 10-17-2002 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2yello     
My dad has an 02 turbo with tip, what a car, performance, build quality, reliable,. He even likes it better than my prowler {Gasp]


Alex
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posted 10-21-2002 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex     
Hey Todd..... You're not one of those left wing liberals that wants to take more and more of my hard earned cash, tax the crap out of me, and give it to those "card board sign people"....are you???

Alex

Todd Cameron
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Registered: APR 2001

posted 10-21-2002 07:30 PM           
ALex, lol, I do consider myself very liberal politically, yes, but, what you describe beyond that, no, that's not me. Sounds more replublican to me


Alex
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posted 10-21-2002 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex     
Todd, I think you backed yourself into a hole.....If you are very liberal politically....Then your thinking says "tax, Tax, tax"....now doesn't it. That is no where near the Republican "way". If you quack like a duck,,, well then Todd....you is a duck! Don't tell me giving my hard earned cash card board people sounds like a republican program...hardly. LOL!!!!!

Sorry I got off track guys,,, but some times Todd needs a bit of straightening out.

Alex

Todd Cameron
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posted 10-21-2002 11:29 PM           
Lol Alex, dude, where have YOU been? Our replubilcan president, taxes went up, economy tanks the second he gets in, the last president, saw the creation of the internet, among many things, including complete analihilation of the government dept the previous 20 odd years of republican misrule created, LESS taxes (exception being the ultra wealthy, which I am not a member of), the worlds best economy EVER, etc etc etc... Yep, I'm a liberal and a Clinton man.


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