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Harry Findley
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Posts: 313
From: Joyce, Washington, 98343 USA
Registered: JUL 2000

posted 11-25-2001 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harry Findley     
Regarding Job Layoff's in the U.S.A.

Joe Smith started his day early having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN)
for 6 a.m. While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA)
was percolating, he shaved with his electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG).
He put on a dress shirt
(MADE IN SIRI LANKA),
designer jean's
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)
and tennis shoe's
(MADE IN KOREA).
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA)
he sat down with his calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO)
to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN)
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA)
he got into his car
(MADE IN GERMANY)
and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day,
Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL)
poured himself a glass of wine
(MADE IN FRANCE)
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA).
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job
in AMERICA ...!

HUMMMMMMM ???

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Harry Findley


Pirana
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From: The Amazon River @ DFW
Registered: JUL 2000

posted 11-25-2001 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pirana     

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This message has been edited by Pirana on 11-25-2001 at 06:30 PM

ALLEY CAT
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Posts: 36093
From: Mesa, Az
Registered: JUL 2000

posted 11-26-2001 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Thanks Harry, right on. Sad, isn't it?


Voodoo
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Posts: 216
From: Chatham, NJ
Registered: OCT 2001

posted 11-26-2001 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo     
Isn't that the truth!!!! I'm in the process of sending out my resume now. Not a good time to be out of work. I have a job right now but my company just laid off 40% of the company with more to come in January. Will I make the cut? Who knows, the first round had no clear logic to it. People with 10 years exp. went with new hires. Nobody's safe.

Voodoo

ETMIDZT
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Posts: 2278
From: Spring Lake, Mi. USA
Registered: JUL 2000

posted 11-26-2001 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ETMIDZT     
Your right about import stuff. I own a manf. Co. that produces high volume products for other Industries-such as automotive,coveyer,air conditioning ect... As soon as the volumes go up...They ship the jobs overseas ( China--India--Mexico) My products are being produced for as little as .13 per hr. by someone bare foot with no Ins.--Vacations---Holidays & on & on. How can I compete? How do I keep all my employes working?
Oh yeah, and here's the kicker---The Goverment announced that we are now in a ression!!!!! NO S^%#!!!!!!
Good thing is.....this economy will turn around!! BUT WHEN????????
Sorry! It just pi$$e$ me off when I hear of more layoffs now, and in the near future. Much could be avoided if trade agreements abroad were different!! Just my 2-cents!


butchcee
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From: Lake Ariel, Pa.
Registered: SEP 2000

posted 11-26-2001 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
How come no one has mentioned the out of control unions that forces manufacturers to find cheaper alternatives?

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ETMIDZT
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From: Spring Lake, Mi. USA
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posted 11-26-2001 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ETMIDZT     
Now that's another--Can of worms!! For example ...The big automotive co's require that vendors give back 5%-10% on the pricing of there products to them anually. I sure as Hell don't see their pricing adjusted accordingly to the public. But I do see the products being purchased abroad ,with quite honestly, very little impact to their workforce.


Nelson Weber
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Posts: 164
From: High Ridge, Mo USA
Registered: SEP 2000

posted 11-26-2001 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nelson Weber     
Butchee,
You are right about out of control unions. Also there are out-of-control companies with all kinds of overheads added to the basic product cost - this makes them not competitive.
For example: Lets say the man on the floor is paid $15 per hour. The company adds on manufacturing overhead for a nice building located in a high rent area, with necessary equipment, with lots of nice landscaping, and grass mowers, and bush trimmers, and flower planters, in addition to air conditioning, computers, benefits, phones, utilities, etc; lets say mfging overhead is 133% - now the labor dollar per hour is $35 per hour. Now lets add on overheads for supervisors, floor managers, quality control, etc of 20%; now we are up to $42 per hour. Now lets add on corporate management (CEO, CFO, with their stock options) a staff of lawyers, accountants, bookeepers, payroll folks, travel dollars, floorsweepers, advertising, marketing, etc of 150%; now we are up to $105 dollars per hour; now lets put on 30% profit; and we are up to over $130 dollars per labor hour. No wonder we can't compete. We need to get rid of a lot of the 'Overhead Cost'.

As a consultant, I have taught engineers how to design products to be low cost to manufacture, reduce time-to-market, without compromising quality. People (companies) don't like to change - they want to keep doing what they have always done - that doesn't work in today's world.

ALLEY CAT
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From: Mesa, Az
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posted 11-27-2001 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     
Nelson - very good example, I'll agree.

Coming from a union family, and being a 26 year member of the UFCW Local 99, I respectfully decline to comment on this one. I've always understood both sides of the fence.

Marty Usher
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From: San Antonio, Texas
Registered: JUN 2001

posted 11-27-2001 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     
OOOOH !! I just typed a reply about unions - good and bad in the convention industry. After reading it I elected to delete my comments since this is not a convention industry forum.

The economy is a complex and ever changing entity and I feel that I should not comment on one single aspect of it without time and space for more indepth attention to other associated areas.

Being in a service oriented industry I certainly have a different point of view and perspective than those involved in manufacturing.

It is a distressing fact to see so many people being laidoff and businesses losing money resulting in a negative overall effect on the nations economy.

Marty

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