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Topic: Del Mar Good Guys Car Show
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George C Prowler Junkie Posts: 297 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-18-2001 09:21 PM
Those of you who were planning on going to the Del Mar Car Show you won't be able to get your Prowler in. Good Guys no longer lets Prowlers in their shows. Oh well, their loss. George------------------
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 05:34 AM
again I ask, George-how come?------------------ AL Yellow is DCOOLEST
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Rich Tilden Prowler Junkie Posts: 343 From: Punta Gorda, Florida Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 09:50 AM
I'd like to know also. Was that an official change of rules? I've been a Good Guys member for some time and enjoy being able to participate in my Prowler. It also gave me entry into other organizations once they knew that Good Guys had "approved" Prowlers for participation. Something doesn't sound right here!!!!!!!!!
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jd2ksilver Prowler Junkie Posts: 4360 From: Mt. View, CA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 09:53 AM
Theres a Good Guys meet up here this weekend with several Cats entered. I do think it's a open meet tho.------------------
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George C Prowler Junkie Posts: 297 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 05:31 PM
We were going to the show in Del Mar and Randy sent in his registration and they called him and told him they no longer took Prowlers. He was told Chrysler pulled out their sponsorship and also had promised a Viper give away at the show and was not donating it now. That's all I know.------------------
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 05:42 PM
The part about pulling out the sponsorship is correct. It was part of the cutbacks at DC. Unfortunate, but true. I don't know anything about the Viper but it is probably due to the same reason.However, I think it is a shame to blackball Prowlers just for that reason.
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 09:41 PM
Maybe I'm dense, but I dont get the connection?------------------ AL Yellow is DCOOLEST
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 10:05 PM
What connection, Butchee?
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 10:10 PM
why they would ban the prowlers because of the dc bailout. I dont do any serious shows. Is it mopar based, chev or what?------------------ AL Yellow is DCOOLEST
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-19-2001 11:09 PM
My gut instinct tells me that because DC cancelled their sponsorship, they are taking it out on the Prowler Owners. I don't know if they have requirements with regard to vehicle year, etc. etc. Perhaps they only let the Prowlers in because of the sponsorship and this is their way of saying, "If you aren't going to sponsor us anymore, then we won't let Prowlers in......so there!! As George said.......Their loss.....
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Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 From: Johnstown, PA, USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 05:57 AM
I have a letter here from a Good Guys Official from two years ago stating that the official cut off for their events is 1972. They would allow Prowlers and Vipers due to sponsorship by Chrysler. CJ is probably correct. When DC yanked the sponsorship, Good Guys went back to the original rule. The loser here isn't just Good Guys. It's the Prowler owners and D/C as well. Germans have never understood the american fascination with the automobile, the cut back comes as no surprise to me. Their attitude is why I quit buying new vehicles from Chrysler.------------------
Dave
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 06:59 AM
there it is-1972 cutoff. Now I understand. I'm surprised that they could be bought off so long without grumblings from the other entrants.------------------ AL Yellow is DCOOLEST
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 08:38 AM
Dave, I am going to disagree with you just a little bit. Of course the Germans do not understand the American muscle car culture. However, that really doesn't have anything to do with it. When you have to cut costs from a company, you have to make hard choices. Should they lay off more people in order to have the money to keep a car club sponsorship? Even I don't agree with that. "Frills" are some of the things you get rid of first! Chances are, if the company was in trouble as just Chrysler (before the Germans came in), I believe the same thing would have happened. Sorry, fact of life! This message has been edited by CJ on 03-20-2001 at 08:40 AM
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George C Prowler Junkie Posts: 297 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 10:45 AM
They did get grumblings from other entrants. We were told that the hot rod entrants asked why Prowlers were allowed in their shows. We went to one show with the Prowler and were told at the gate we could not get in because it was 1999 car and we had to get an official to inform the person at the gate Prowlers were an exception to their. But no longer. It is a loss for Prowler owners because Good Guys shows are really first rate shows.------------------
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Rich Tilden Prowler Junkie Posts: 343 From: Punta Gorda, Florida Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 03:07 PM
I can't believe the only reason Prowlers were included was because of Chrysler money. This stinks. I'm looking at the newest issue of the "Goodguys Goodtimes Gazette" that I received yesterday and, on page 90, is good old Chip Foose posing next to his small-block powered Pymouth Prowler which is owned by **** Marriott who owns a bunch of hotels. Our cars belong in Goodguys and their events for a whole bunch of reasons and we need to let them know it. I'll happily refer to mine as a highly customized, high tech 1933 Ford Roadster that looks very similar to some of the AMBR winners!!!
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 03:16 PM
I don't disagree with you Rich.......I believe the Prowlers should be part of it too. However, these hot rod/custom car clubs are extremely sensitive to the fact that they should only allow old originals, restored vehicles and custom jobs. They look at the Prowler as a production vehicle (even though it is hand-built). When I did the Prowler Road Show for Chrysler, there were a lot of guys that made those types of comments about the Prowler to me. "You know, I put a lot of time and money into restoring my car....." I agreed with them, but I also pointed out one of the advantages of the Prowler was something they didn't have........a warranty!! Which, at least, would usually bring a laugh and agreement.As we can't change the Germans' view of the American car culture, it's not likely that we will be able to change the philosophy and preferences of these types of clubs with regard to their attitude toward the Prowler... Such a loss for them and all of the owners.
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butchcee Prowler Junkie Posts: 7476 From: Lake Ariel, Pa. Registered: SEP 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 03:23 PM
Do what the kit guys do-get an old registration if you really want in. If they give you problems you can probably void 20% of their entrants. I wouldn't though-their loss.------------------ AL Yellow is DCOOLEST
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Dave Mills Prowler Junkie Posts: 5419 From: Johnstown, PA, USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 05:19 PM
CJ: I would view the Good Guys sponsorship as just another marketing tool. The last thing that Chrysler should be cutting in bad times is marketing. That sort of makes the downturn self fullfilling. Cutting jobs is not the answer either. As for the "production car" arguement, I can take my '66 Fury to a Good Guys meet with no questions asked. It was more of a production car than the Cat is. I guess I'm just sensitive to the death of Ma Mopar.------------------
Dave
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CJ Prowler Junkie Posts: 18860 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: JUL 2000
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posted 03-20-2001 07:45 PM
Well, Dave......yes, it is a marketing tool, but it really isn't directed toward the core business of the company!
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