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Gary C
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posted 02-26-2001 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
Talked to him yesterday and he talked me into slicks, had 7 different wheels on today and no go.

Went to a custom manufacture today and will have them for Texas.

11's here we come.

I will burn the car to the ground to get there.

butchcee
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posted 02-26-2001 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
What was the problem finding a wheel? Does the car have a bolt pattern unique to itself? Offset problems? Brake clearance? You are right though with the choice. Next breakage-halfshafts.

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Gary C
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posted 02-26-2001 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     
I would worry about the half shafts but the WILDMEN in Norcal with over 75 neutral drops between them took care of that worry. There is no neutral drops by this Dude.

Someone is going to killed by doing these NEUTRAL DROPS, I wish they would stop it.

Everything will hold just fine.

WildCat
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posted 02-27-2001 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     
When I had my wheels chromed it was sitting on the lift waiting to go to the paint shop.

The bolt pattern on the Prowler is the same as the old Mopars 5 lug 4 1/2" bolt pattern

After it looked like I would not get the graphics on because I was still waiting I went to the tire dealer and said, GIVE ME SOME WHEELS. I tried 15" with no luck. They hit the upper control arm. They had some bent 17"'s that was to be returned to manufacturer. They gave me one to try.

It fit on and cleared but as I tried to rotate it it went almost 360 and would stop. I removed the wheel and looked to find tape weight on the back edge of the wheel. Once this was removed know more problems.

The front wheels is were I run into a problem. I was looking for some 15" wheels to put on it. Even thought of buying new set of cheap wheels, when I remembered the trailer I was using to take my car to the paint shop & then to the World of wheels had 2 new spare tires. Now most all trailers use the same bolt pattern as the ford & mopars.

Yes, this was the plan, try the spare trailer tires. Well they were 15X6" white spoke wheels with really tall tires. Off came the fenders and the wheels were set up, NOW THE PROBLEM, the calipers would not clear the spokes. All I wanted was to get it 25' to the trailer and then off the trailer into paint shop. I used about 1/2" of washer spacers on each lug. I made it on the trailer the graphics on and the rest is history.

I will try and post photo if I can get my other computer to work. Looks like dirt track racer. No front fenders with white spoke wheels and short rear tires.

If you can get 17" or 18" wheel with reverse offset like we use to run years ago on our rear wheel drive cars it should clear undercarriage. Getting it to fit into wheel well and look right will take some measuring and the right size tire.

For Gary's situation I would want to run 27 1/2"~28 1/2" tall tire. This will also give more final drive gear and the shorter tire should not have problem clearing the fenders if it does stick out alittle. Factory tires are 29 1/2" tall.

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dpena
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posted 02-27-2001 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     
That is why I got linelocks on my CAT!!

Lance@Paxton also hated the fact that I was enjoying the neutral drops too much and would someday pay a price.

My CAT is holding up pretty good even after the increase of boost on my CAT!!

I think Gary will be just fine!!

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Todd Cameron
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posted 02-27-2001 05:52 PM           
ooookkkkaaayyy , what are line locks?

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butchcee
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posted 02-27-2001 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
Todd, basically it holds line pressure on the front brakes to stop roll-out at the line or to hold the front wheels during a burn out. They are controlled by a button on the stick or wherever. The brakes on this car are not the best so if your not doing a burn out using a water box, I dont see the need. Theres no way you can hold the fronts in a dry situation. You just skid them. This car needs better front tracton.

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butchcee
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posted 02-27-2001 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
Thanks for the info Larry. I guess we're stuck with the stock diameter rims unless we get a custom set made.

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jd2ksilver
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posted 02-27-2001 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     
Todd

Line lock is a device keeps pressure applied to the front brakes when you take your foot off the brake pedal, usually a small switch in the dash or console. That way you can put your car in drive, or first and give it some gas. It asks like a power stand in street racing, saves the tranny. Some people (like me) also set up a water pump with hoses to the rear tires to get them wet so you can smoke your tires with less rubber missing, strickly for cruisin, showin off. But the line locks work great for dragging, you can get more power to your wheels quicker, and if you do it right, you wont spin your tires at take off and you save your tranny from doing the "drop" into gear while revving the your engine as Gary was referring too.
If you can view Dan's avis from Paxton, that's what we were doing in the vids or burn-outs. Actually I just found out about them recently myself. They are very cool. But I need to add more jets to my tires to get them wetter for cruise nights.

opps,, Butchee beat me to it..

This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 02-27-2001 at 08:12 PM

WildCat
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posted 02-27-2001 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     
Seen in Summit Racing catalog tonight and they have a set of 17" drag radials. They are 275/40/17 and should be on 8 to 11" wheels.

The only problem these tires are only 25 1/2" tall. I don't know if they have taller 17" but they will work.

Al, what RPM & gear did you go thru thr traps at? Think you could use that much more gearing?

I doubt it is the brakes that make the problem of line lock. It is the light weight that lets the car push the tires locked up.

In high school knew a guy with `65 nova with built 327, it had a straight axle under it and it was FAST, but he could not power brake it. It would just scoot the tires. But if he jumped on it hard it was up in smoke. Not enough weight in the front.

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Larry Mayes
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Tom Mills Bumper Kit and hood gas shock kit
Paint by Custom Painting Unlimited
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untrimmed Mud Flaps
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butchcee
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posted 02-27-2001 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     
Larry, I havn't been to the track yet and havn't tried the
G-tech yet, but will soon as I need to get some baseline before putting the blower on. I think the car with the stock diameter tires will go thru the traps maxed in third with the gears in. I think you are right about the light front end causing the loss of front end tracton. Maybe a different set of shocks letting the front lift during acceleration, and dive during braking will solve the straight line problems. Wont handle though. Anyone ever put this car on a scale to check the actual weight with fuel, and how about weight bias?-50-50?

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