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spoons


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posted 05-21-2003 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
1997 Cat with 22.5k

1. Grey bumpers replaced because of discoloring/stains.
2. Tire sensor defective.
3. Fuel rail replaced (recall)
4. Clear coated front A-arms (1997 & 1999 models) replaced with Non-clear coat A-arms (2000-2002 model).
5. Front Ball Joint raplaced (recall).
6. Paint bubbling on door edge.

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1997 Purple W/ 1997 Mopar Trailer
TGF Metalcrafters Rear Spoiler ~ Splash Guards(Front + Back) ~ Ceramic brake pads (front) ~ "Cracked Ice" shimmers on rear bumpers ~ Magic Touch Design 2.2 Air Intake ~ Purple Painted Shift Bezel ~ Trailer Leather Bra ~ Complete, Speaker Upgrade ~ $15 chrome grill ~ Front Suspension Brace ~ 2001 Prowler Ignition Key ~ Louvered Transmission Cover.
"Drive = Love"

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posted 05-21-2003 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     send a private message to DR PROWLER   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DR PROWLER
99 black with 17000 km(approximate 11000 miles)
It's been aces since the day I bought it!
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2000 Black
5000 mi Leak in middle of driver's side window
10000 mi Check engine light - fuel filler cap
12000 mi Driver's side O/S mirror glass fell out
replaced entire mirror under warr
24000 mi Ball joints - dealer broke one cap and
replaced it
Have driven several, and Pena, you're right - black
cats are fastest! What a gas to drive.......
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'97 bought new 1-5-98 w/126 dealer owner driven miles
Recalls done:
Frame welds checked - had all needed and then some.
Fuel rail
Front lower ball joints - dealer wouldn't let me have or look at old ones, and didn't mention if damaged or not. Said they had to go back to DC. (NOT!) Damage done to arms, rims, and minimal damage to knuckles. Upper ball joint undertorqued on reassembly and dealer fought me on even checking it. I had to have a friend and another dealer check it. Was to be at 65. Was at 30. Took it back to original dealer and fought more til he "checked" it and said all was where it was supposed to be. (NOT!! - see below.)
12/98 2927 miles - factory carpet cut wrong. Warranty replacement. Left on plastic carpet cover as a courtesy.
Radio hum that gets louder with increased RPM - Warranty replaced amp. Still hums.
Top had minor leaks in rain and had wind noise coming from rear. Warranty adjustment. No mention of this on the receipt. Dry and quiet now.
5/99 3058 miles - radio still buzzing. TSB's checked and nothing there. Chrysler was notified and said they are researching the problem and will get back to me. (They never did.) Was also told that Chrysler was aware of the problem, and that it also exists on the Vipers. (I had the same problem with my '70 cutlas and fixed it myself. It was just a bad ground on the battery cable.) Still waiting to hear back from Chrysler on this as of 8/03.
*6/99 - I drive it so little, I hid the keys before going on vacation, and when I went to drive it some time after I got back, I forgot where I hid the keys.
*8/99 - New key alarm transmitter to replace the one I can't find.
5/00 3694 miles - right front turn signal light out. Bulb replacement didn't solve. Warranty repaired ground wire and reimbursed for light bulb.
Low air pressure light on, but tires not low - Warranty recalibrated.
Delayed transaxle engagement on cold start after sitting up for a couple weeks - was told after sitting, fluid drains out of tranny til started and allowed to run a little bit. No repairs done. Was told by someone else later on that, dealer was not right on this. It shouldn't do that. Still does it on occasion.
Intermitant loss of power at higher speeds - (I didn't tell them just WHAT speed, but was @ just over 100 mph). Dealer couldn't find the problem so dumped the info from my computer and reprogrammed the whole thing under warranty. Seems to have solved the problem. Interestingly, the receipt shows nothing was done on this.
*8/00 - Found lost key and transmitter and had all recallibrated to same frequency. No charge.
*2001 or so - Had just started the car to run to temp about every 2 weeks. Drove it about once a month. (Not a good way. If I don't start it for 3 weeks or more the battery goes dead. Just letting it run up to temp and shutting it off doesn't boil off condensation in the motor, unless you do the following...) Started it one day to let it run and went inside, phone rang, etc. and I forgot it was out there running with the car cover still covering the hood, for about 1 1/2-2 hrs. FREAKED OUT and jumped in to shut it off. Temp gauge was pegged in the red zone. Started dropping as soon as I shut it off. Opened hood to cool. No harm noticed. I'm assuming regular oil changes saved me on this one.
5/03 5600 miles - Low air pressure light on again when tires not low.
5/03 6875 miles - After reading up on the front shocks leaking, I looked at mine (from the top) and saw no leaks but show signs of something leaking, mostly from right front end area where car is parked in garage. I noticed left front leak signs also after moving to other side of garage for a week.
Installed front splash guards. Left side, 2 clips on fender were full of fiberglass material (or whatever fender is made of) and had to be scraped out to put clips in. In the process I punctured a very small hole thru the fender. (BEFORE you try this, send me a message. I have some suggestions on how to better scrape the clips out without damage.) Those 2 T-bolts were a tight fit and had to be tapped down into place.
7-03 7141 miles - Finally got ball joint damage to arms touched up and after 3 attempts to get acceptable rims from dealer, got a check to buy my own. Rechecked torque on upper ball joints from recall and said all was as should be. (NOT!!)
7/03 7244 miles - Tried new dealership for service. Having trailer hitch installed at dealership, they scratched my left exhaust tip. Also had them verify upper ball joint torque was proper after the above recall and LF was @ 48, RF @ 50. Torqued to proper 65. (I KNEW the original dealer lied!) While on lift, I checked for shock leaks - found none.
Overall, I'm very happy with my KAT and have had very few problems.

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Mickey
1997 Plymouth Prowler #156
Custom car cover
Mopar front splash guards
Real Rod stainless steel transmission cooler cover
Mopar Trailer hitch and harness
Real Rod weekender
1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE
Longhorn scratches
Boomerschlobber

This message has been edited by idive on 08-13-2003 at 10:20 AM

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Time to share my Problems with everyone: (in order of occurrence). I am very certain that there are many of you that can say the same thing.

1).Found that the Fenders were not long enough to stop the rocks from hitting the side of car, Installed mud flaps (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY}

2).The front brakes that came with the car were defective, they left too much dust on the chrome wheels, Replaced with Ceramic Brake Pads (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

3). Original Grill was not noticeable, lacked character, added the $10.00 Alley cat chrome treatment (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

4). Stock Air valve caps were reported to not hold air,Replaced with caps with Cat Logo (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

5). Exhaust system was determined missing from vehicle as no noticeable noise could be heard, Installed Borla Exhaust so I could tell car was running during idle (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

6). Stock Exhaust Tips defective causing injury during cleaning, requiring replacement for safety reasons, replaced with OBX Chrome Mufflers (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

7). Windshield wipers not required in Sunny California,
determined to be obsolete equipment thus removed, replaced with Billet Wiper covers (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

8.)Plymouth and Prowler script on rear bumper of 2000 was classified as unreadable by those following,Installed shimmer on rear bumpers to meet appearance standards (NOT COVER BY WARRANTY)

9.) Rear T/A Oil cool reported subject to damage when backing up , Installed chrome cover to protect cooler, (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY)

10.)Consensus of the Prowler Ownership deemed that OEM Engine rated at plus 250 HP was sub standard as HP rating at rear wheels was really 172,thus not meeting specification of "FAST CAR STANDARDS, Installed Paxton Novi 1000 High boost with headers and "X" pipe, (NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY-NCBW)

11.)After SC install, determined that insufficient air flow to maintain normal engine temperatures, requiring Installation of TGF Side panels for more air to reduce engine temp, (NCBW)

12.) After side panels still too much heat, had "flames" etched on front windshield and side windows, was told they were "cool", no impact on reducing engine temp, (NCBW)

13.) Front bumpers causing injury to knee caps as rounding front of car,removed front bumpers (NCBW)

14.) Gears defective, Prowler Pro gears installed (NCBW)

15.)LAST BUT NOT LEAST (but the worst of all), CARGO SPACE DETERMINED TO BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR MARRIAGE ON LONG TRIPS, PURCHASED, TRAILER HITCH (CHROMED IT), PROWLER TRAILER ,PROWLER STAND,PROWLER TRAILER COVER,(NONE OF THIS COVERED BY WARRANTY).

OH YEAAAAAAAAH!
16.) REPLACED HOOD STRUTS , UNDER WARRANTY

I guess I am one of the lucky ones.
In summary, AS THINGS HAVE WORKED OUT these are the problems that I wanted when I got this car. I DO hope to be able to continue to enjoy as THESE AND MANY OTHERS so long as I own it.

Good Luck and May your only problems be your STRUTS.
Dan G.



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Follow-up on top problem . . . Had conversation with GM of dealership, who immediately had a new top assembly ordered. Replacement went fine and doesn't leak (had to drive home in a HEAVY rain storm).
Had ball joints replaced without any problems, no other problems, other than too much rain in Atlanta lately, cutting into Prowling time!
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Dan, your story is a great way to start the day!
Thanks
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RBADKAT...I didn't know where you were going with it until I got to item #3...then I realized the brilliant list you compiled...I too suffered from many of these "Non-Warranty Problems"... LMAO!

Your list was inspired genius....I am impressed.

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posted 08-13-2003 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GenoTex     send a private message to GenoTex   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GenoTex
A bump... and an addition ...
and thx for having it among your pages, Damon!

Anyway... my list...

About 5,000 +/- miles, Engine overheated, dumped all fluid. Burped the baby, replaced reservoir, and moved on.

15,800. New engine bottom installed. Inadequate circulation of oil in block.

recalled ball joints repaired @ 15,800.

and that's Gonna Be the end of my list too!
(Knock on wood)


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"97, bought new October, '02. Have put 4500 miles on it so far.

Problems:

1. Gas gage inaccurate - replaced circuit board behind gage fixed it.
2. dash squeak - fixed myself with help of this board
3. Cracked rear fender next to tail light - living with it

That's all so far, but I haven't yet been in rain with it. Absolutely love the car, but I expect to have some problems with it, since it is essentially hand built in small numbers.
Just think about some of the other classics like the XKE, old Lambo's, and Ferrari's, just to name a few. They all had their problems, but were highly desirable.

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2001 Mulholland Bought New 9800 miles
Around 5000 - rt. frt. center cap ( REPLACED )
Around 5100 - left rear center cap (REPLACED)
Around 6200 - left front center cap (")
Around 6200 - Top being cut bu deck lid latch ( Replaced Top)
AROUND 8500 - lost A/C belt ( replaced)
Around 9200 - Lost another A/C belt( replaced A/C Compressor)
Love the car/ not complaining at all. Dealer always made me happy. Have no intentions of ever selling the car!!
Jim
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2002 Inca gold purchased new. Currently has 5200 miles.
1) Had top replaced, fraying around the rear window. Under warranty. Now it leaks some. No charge for that.
2)Front upper A-arm bolt came off. Fixed under warranty.
3)Front end alignment due to #2. Under warranty.
4)Repaint nose of car since the alignment shop (#3)pulled up on a parking stop. Dealership covered.
5)4 wheel alignment. Rear alignment rod bolts loose and front end was not tightened down (#3 again!).
6) Replace rear tires because of excessive wear due to mis-alignment. Dealership covered.
7) Still need ball joints replaced.
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Can anyone possibly post an Excell spread sheet that we can fill in? Trying to follow a large list like this doesn't do any good. We could just check off the boxes that apply to us. Just a thought.
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2000 Red
Replaced hood struts when it was in for ball joints.
Otherwise NO problems (and it doesn't leak) Gotta Love these Kats!
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posted 02-09-2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
This is a good thread to read for the newer folks.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
This is a good thread to read for the newer folks.

In other words, Ed is saying this is a good thread for everyone... right?

I haven't picked on Ed in a while...

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With original owner the battery was replaced and the ball joint recall was completed

With me the hood struts, clock spring (yes it has a part called a clock spring) and the battery once again, they installed a battery with top and side terminals ( take a look where the positive side terminal ends up ) the plastic cap rubbed through and it sparked to the frame

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posted 02-09-2004 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Dude, I was just starting to have high hopes that you were reformed. lol.
Did we ever get those last 10 or 11 names on the panoramic?
Keep working on it.

This message has been edited by ed monahan on 02-09-2004 at 09:28 PM

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2002 silver...I had new top replaced first month, small holes. I had new light switch replaced, loose. I had and still have water leak, who cares! Last week my new struts and new headlights were replaced because of a " little moisture" in them, dealer was great! Did I memtion water dripping on my pants, no big deal. hmmmm.....I lost my front right valve cap ( silver Prowler ) need one xtra.... Thats it folks....love my cat, fun fun fun.....
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1999 Prowler Purple
3596 mi ball joints recall.
3596 mi Hood gas shocks replaced both.
3596 mi Safety recall #844 brake warning lamp wiring jumper.
4200 mi Generator B+ cable frayed apart, fixed myself.
Chrome on front and back rims starting to come off.
Have small leaks on top.

STILL A GREAT PROWLER

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1999 Red

Ball joint recall
window regulator went out at 16,000 miles

no other issues. love the car.

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1999 Red 1400 miles (sold) no problems, no complaints
2001 Mo Blue 6500 miles, no complaints
1. Would rather have Candy Red during day, but Mo Blue is AWESOME under florescent lights at night
2. Ball Joint recall
3. Front-Upper-Right Ball Joint leaks after recall
4. The hood won't stay up anymore, need struts but haven't decided whether or not to take it in. I tend to stay away from service work unless absolutely necessary. Almost always gets minor damage and dirty while in the shop.
Learned to appreciate (and live with) the quirks of the car and enjoy the true spirit of the car. This car still looks awesome every time I see it in my garage, on the road, or in pictures. Timeless classic for sure.
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2002 Inca Gold about 7000 miles since March 03 (new)

1)200 miles the same day after driving home from Chrysler dealer (in Lafayette, IN) the pulley on the power steering exploded and went through the side of the body panel...all belts immediately frayed and flew off. Dealer (in Fort Wayne) repaired, did a good job.
2) October 2003 - I now notice that there is a hairline crack under the headlight fairly close to where the pulley blew through the side of the car. Think it could be related to last problem(just guessing - could be something else?.. too much cowl shake?). Told the dealer about and showed him at last oil change. Said he would have to call some Chrysler person because he got in a little trouble on the last repair because he didn`t call them. Seems Chrysler needs to know these things in order to compare all warranty repairs to know if a recall is in order, etc.. (his story). Still haven`t got a call from them with answer. Think I`m getting the old run around? It is in the garage for winter now, I will confront them again in spring, and I will get an answer even if I have to drive to Detroit and get it in person myself. (just a little steam...lol)

3) It always kind of bothers me the way the lifters sound when you first start the motor when cold. Someone needs to invent a preoiler for the prowler engine. Electric powered, maybe fit between the filter and engine?

I love this car though. I never thought I would own a car that I would have a lot of passion for again, like the cars I owned as a kid. But it happened. Lucky me.

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Record,
You should have dealer order them, you can put them on yourself, they are fairly simple to install.
Just an idea, if there covered by warranty might as well.
Dan G
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1999 Red
Hood struts replaced @ 1000 miles
Cracks on rear fenders (around tail lights) repaired @ 12,000 miles
Ball joints replaced under recall @ 12,000 miles
All 4 wheels peeling - Chrysler replaced all under warranty @ 19,000 miles
Gearshift interlock cable (prevented me being able to take the key out of the ignition) repaired @ 5,000 miles and then replaced @ 19,000 miles
Driver's side window leak - replaced weatherstripping @ 19,000 miles

I still love my car!

JR

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F R (JR) Karbowski Jr
1999 Red Plymouth Prowler w/ matching trailer
*XM Satellite Radio, Borla Exhaust and MTD 2.2 Cold Air Intake
*1998 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 (daily driver)


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