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Chromer



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posted 11-18-2001 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
I have been pondering the removal of the front bumpers on my '99 cat and going with the Tom Mills cover kit.

Obviously the car is Not going to hold up as well in a front end collison (but before then it would certainly look way cool).

Does any one know or have experiance with an insurance carrier refusing to pay all or part of front end collision damage because the owner has removed the bumpers?

In Colorado bumpers are required. However several of our local Prowlers have had them removed. Has anyone ever been stopped by the police because of the lack of front bumpers?

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posted 11-18-2001 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
I have not been stopped driving mine in almost 3 years. Bumpers are also required in Indiana. I ask my insuirance agent about it and he didn't see a problem because it was a customized car. The only thing in my policy not covered is the custom paint.

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posted 11-18-2001 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Chromer - I have heard of only one owner in Florida with a insurance hassle concerning damage/bumper removal claim. If my memory serves me, it involved another person's car hitting the front end of a cat, and that person's insurance carrier claiming less $$$ damage would have resulted if the cat owner's bumpers remained on the cat. Personally, I think that is all BS, as those front bumpers wouldn't stop anything hitting a cat at speed. I still have mixed emotions over removing them, not because of an insurance hassle, but because I still like the looks of them. I will in time probably remove them and see if my weak mindset may change over to the JD2Ksilverbullet philosophy

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posted 11-18-2001 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Bumpers are required in Pennsylvania as well. I removed mine two years ago and did discuss this with the insurance company. They did not seem to have a problem with it. The bumpers are also required for the annual state inspection here. The law says you have to have bumpers. So, every year, I throw them on the front seat and take them with me. I have bumpers, just not on the car. It has worked so far.

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This message has been edited by Dave Mills on 11-18-2001 at 02:14 PM

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posted 11-18-2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
Dave - like the way you handle the requirements. Reminds me of the Nebraska motorcycle helmet law - had to wear one, but as long as it was attached to your kneecap or belt loop, you met the requirements of the law. It was soon dropped as unenforcable.
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posted 11-18-2001 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harry Findley     send a private message to Harry Findley   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Harry Findley
Chromer--I removed the front bumpers a couple of years ago and havn't had any problems with either my insurance company nor the cops. Bumpers are required here in Washington, but the Kat is considered a "Custom Car" now and said rules don't apply. Recomendation -- remove them, it makes the Kat look cleaner - even more "street-rod" like.
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Mine are off and I have the Tom Mills. They are awesome! If something happens just have a friend go get your bumpers throw them in the area of the accident and no one will know the difference. Its kinda of funny as people have asked me about any concerns about wrecking her without the bumper. I have a corvette and a pt cruiser and a expedition 3 out of the four all have bad crash test ratings, however, the one that is good in the crash tests sucks to drive and is no fun. Drive safe and keep the nose out of harms way! Im out to drive, DOn where are you!
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posted 11-18-2001 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catterumpus     send a private message to catterumpus   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catterumpus
Removing the bumpers in July '00 was a hassle for my knuckles. Since then the cops have always smiled, given thumbs up or asked it I might trade, but never mentioned the lack of front and rear bumpers. True street rods are accepted by everyone.
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posted 11-18-2001 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc-Colo-99     send a private message to Marc-Colo-99   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marc-Colo-99
Chromer
If we ever get pulled over together I can point out to the cop to write you a ticket for no bumpers and forget about the speed contest ticket.
Hey if you pull them and want any help give me a call. I'll bring the beer.
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posted 11-18-2001 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     send a private message to Brad   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Brad
Being a retired disabled Police Officer(Wisconsin), I can assure you that any alteration of equipment can result in a citation or a 5- day warning to comply. Insurance companies vary greatly and I think it would be good common sense if in doubt to ask your agent.
It is my opinion that most Police officers would not go out of there way to write a citation for removing your bumpers.
But if you are worried ,make sure you have coupons in your glove compartment for dunkin donuts.....PS mine are removed
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posted 11-18-2001 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gary C
Just say it's a Factory Delete option.
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posted 11-19-2001 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KatAddict     send a private message to KatAddict   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by KatAddict
I was asked by a cop in a local parade about the bumpers. I told him they were an option from the factory and he could call the dealer to ask. I guess my bluff worked. Haven't heard anything yet. If I do I'll post it.
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posted 11-19-2001 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo     send a private message to Voodoo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Voodoo
Most people have never seen a Prowler up close and wouldn't know what's missing. If the cop say's anything just tell him that this is the way it came. If the holes are covered up what's he going to say?

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