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prwlyn


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posted 04-17-2001 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
For those who may be interested, here is the class listing for the Prowler and who we're in with.. The class is "Stock Class A". We're in some pretty good company.

This class includes mass produced vehicles able to be used for normal street driving. Stock Category cars must compete in their showroom configuration with only minor modifications allowed such as aftermarket shocks, wheels, and tires.

Audi
S4 ('00) (A4 chassis)
TT FWD & AWD (225HP,dual intercoolers)

BMW
M3
Z3 2.8

Chevrolet
Corvette ('63-'82)

Dodge
Stealth turbo

Ferrari
308, 328

Honda
S2000

Jaguar
XKE, 6 & 12 cyl.
Maserati
Biturbo (BS)

Mazda
RX-7 Turbo ('87-'91)

Mercedes
SLK

Mitsubishi
3000 GT Turbo

Morgan
Plus 8

Nissan
300 ZX Turbo ('90+)

Plymouth
Prowler

Porsche
Boxster
911, non-turbo, NOC
911 Club Sport

Porsche
914-6
928 S4 & GT & GTS
944 Turbo S ('88)
944 Turbo ('89+)
968
Carrera 2
Carrera 4
356, Carrera 4 cam
928 NOC
944 Turbo ('86-'88)
944 16V

TVR
8 cyl. models
V6 models

Toyota
MR-2 Turbo
MR-2 Supercharged

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This message has been edited by prwlyn on 04-17-2001 at 01:13 PM

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posted 04-17-2001 11:18 AM           send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
Sounds like they finally gave us a lil respect... what class did they put the Viper in with and with what cars?

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posted 04-17-2001 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Todd, here is where they put the Viper. It is in the "Street Prepared" division.

Any and all Stock Category vehicles are eligible for Street Prepared. You're also allowed to make modifications to the suspension, ignition, intake, and exhaust to further enhance the performance of the vehicle. No internal engine modifications are allowed, but minor changes to the bodywork to accommodate larger wheels and tires are permitted. Please refer to the Solo Rules for details on the allowable modifications.


Solo II Car Classification
Street Prepared Class A

BMW
M3 Lightweight

Datsun/Nissan
280 ZX Turbo (79-83)
300 ZX Turbo (84-89)

Dodge
Stealth Turbo
Stealth non-turbo
Viper

Elva
Courier (all)

Ferrari
Dino 206, 246 (all)

Fiat
2000 Spyder Turbo (all)

Griffith
(all)

Lotus
Elite 1216cc (all)
Elan (all)
Europa, twin cam
Europa, Renault engine
7, 7A
Elite 2+2, Eclat
Esprit (all)

Mazda
RX-7 Turbo

Mitsubishi
3000GT Turbo
3000GT non-turbo Morgan
V8 all
+4, 2138cc (all)

Nissan
300 ZX, non-turbo (90+)
300 ZX Turbo (90+)

Porsche
911 Club Sport
911 except Turbo (all)
930, 911 Turbo (all)
914/6 (all)
924S, 924 Turbo
944 (all)
944 Turbo
Carerra 2
Carerra 4 cyl. (all)
Carerra 4

Shelby
Cobra 289

Toyota
MR-2 Supercharged
MR-2 Turbo (91+)

Triumph
TR-8 (all)

TVR
4 & 6 cyl. (all) V8

Volkswagen
Corrado

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posted 04-17-2001 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     send a private message to butchcee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by butchcee
Thanks for the info Fred. A question-how come your wife is standing in FRONT of you in the banner? I thought the motto was that behind every good man is a good woman!!! Come and get me girl Prowlers! hahahahahahahahaha

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posted 04-17-2001 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Butchcee, If you notice all the expense mods are listed and I put the most important one in front! Besides before I remade the banner over the weekend, we were out and up comes a car and the guy says "Whats it got in it?", my wife looked at him and said "The best looking driver in town!". So she goes up front... hehehe She's getting to be as big a smart a$$ as me!

I was out to the parts store and one pulls up at light and says "You wanta race?". I said "I cant wait that long!" he looked puzzled and asked what do you mean wait? I mean for you to go home and get something fast enough to race me with!!! and drove off.... I Love this car!

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Ok, so, how come they have some of the same cars in both divisions? What's the determining factor for which division you get tossed into? and while I'm at it.... where is the late model Vette's? Especially since their not in the same category as the Viper!?

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posted 04-17-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Todd, I can't answer your questions on the different cars but I've included the SCCA car class link. I know when we went out and raced Autocross. We raced against Porsche's, BMW's, Vipers and Corvettes and I didn't see where the difference was. The Prowlers were right behind those cars times and beat many of their times. In fact in the Shoot-Out, the Vipers/Prowlers only lost to the Porsche/BMW guys by less than 1 second... overall!
http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/classes/index.html

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I'm shocked the Viper's lost! I thought they were the fastest production car today? What happened?

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posted 04-18-2001 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Aw, c'mon Fred....


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So she goes up front... hehehe She's getting to be as big a smart a$$ as me!

I'd say smart..er!!! LOL!

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posted 04-18-2001 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prwlyn     send a private message to prwlyn   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prwlyn
Todd, I also found that the Viper is listed along with 5 other cars as Production cars that do not qualify for "Stock" classes.. It's at the bottome of the page of listings.

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Todd,
the problems for the Viper in an autocross is that
the car is a "pig". It has massive tires, kinda on the
heavy side (about 3650lbs with driver & fuel) and has
wayyyy toooo much torque in the lower gearing - which
is the operating range of most any vehicle in an
autocross. Combine the three elements above and the
result is a cone killing machine! Those who have
mastered the art of driving a Viper in an autocross
are good drivers indeed. (Very easy to get out of the
cones with this car!!!) So losing by a second is not
that bad. Light and nimble are what's needed in an
autocross, not gobs of power and sticky rubber.

On the other hand, put the Viper on a road course,
where the car can use it's gears, torque and horsepower
and the tables are turned. Light and nimble becomes
breakfast for the Viper. As a road car, it's kinda hard
to beat either the GTS or the RT/10. It also makes a
fantastic touring car as well.

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