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tjtucker
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Hi
Today was a nice spring day in Dallas. So I got up early today and headed to Ft. Worth Texas to look at a 2001 orange Prowler with 7000 miles and a matching trailer for 35899. The prowler was in very nice condition with front and rear fender flaps. The car looked almost new and drove nice. My wife really liked the car and concluded it would be a fine purchase. I advised the salesman that I found a red 1999 Panoz AIV roadster with 1089 miles and I wanted to test drive it also before I made a purchase. So off to the 2nd Dealer. The Panoz has the 4.6 320 H.P. Cobra motor and a 5 speed trans. Upon arrival at the dealership the Panoz had a dead battery but after jumping the car it was ready to go. The salesman asked if I wanted him to drive first and I said ok what the heck. Only later did I find out that he also races cars and has a 1999 Viper GTS. My wife looked at the Panoz and said it was a cute car but was a little impractical with the Canvas top with the zipper windows and the interior was smaller. We got the car to the front of the dealership and off we went with the salesman driving. Down the street we went and everything was alright the salesman advised that we would go up the highway and go to the next exit about 3 mile up the road. Well we made a right turn on to the ramp and then holy SH*** all hell broke loose and by third gear we were going 85 only to brake for traffic. I drove the car back to the dealership and then took my wife for a quick ride. She said it is fast as hell tighter and more like a race car made for the street but windy. She advised me to buy the one I like.
The Panoz is the closest thing to a street legal race car I have ever driven Its not as fast as the Vipers I have driven. but it is much more exciting. Does anyone else have a Panoz? It going to be hard to choose one over the other.

TJ Tucker

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posted 03-23-2002 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CWatsonJr     send a private message to CWatsonJr   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CWatsonJr
I don't have a Panoz but one thing I know, the prowler isn't made for racing (oops, I will get flamed now). It is made for cruising. There are certainly ways to make the car go faster but that is not what it is meant for.

If you want a car to go fast in, get a viper, if you want a car to look cool in - get a prowler. JMO

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posted 03-23-2002 10:39 PM           send a private message to CWatsonJr   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Todd Cameron
Prowler for looks, Panoz for go fast. I choose looks, 65 is 65, 85 is ticket time, just ask Dan "the Man" Pena, doing time for a dime is not worth it.

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tjtucker
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posted 03-23-2002 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjtucker     send a private message to tjtucker   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by tjtucker
Thanks for the replies. Your correct, the Prowler is great to look at but the Panoz looks pretty cool also. The guy on the Harley looked over and said What the hell is that. I thought it was a Prowler but it sure doesn't sound like one. What do you guys think about the Panoz per all the information I can find they made 168 and some of the car collectors think it will be the next Shelby Cobra. I really don't think so but it is quite rare.

TJ

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posted 03-23-2002 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SnoCat     send a private message to SnoCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by SnoCat
Take the Prowler //You don't mention the Price Difference.. You will Drown in the panoz if it rains //and even if it is dry the wind noise about 80 will drive you crazy. Prowler give you best of both worlds //Great looking car /you can drive in rain and has enough Horse to leave most behind.. And you get this great Org. Of Loons to talk to.. A Canuck Opinion
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I know a guy with a Pamoz. I ran into him in Tennesee coming back from Woodward last year. He was driving his wifes Honda at the time. We talked for awhile and he said no way would he drive the Panoz from GA to MI. He said after two hours or so the thinly padded seats and stiff suspension is all he can take. This guy is in his early 30's and seems to be in good shape. The Panoz is a rocket for sure. If that is what you are looking for go for it. But if you are looking for a cruiser to enjoy a drive in, go with the Prowler. But if you going to street race or run it at the stirp allot go with the Panoz. Me, I would buy a Viper before I would get a Panoz. JMO

I would also check on the insurance for a Panoz vs a Prowler.

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Prowler all the way... how many Panoz runs are you going to go on?

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Wy. Easy Ryder
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Mr. Tucker, buy the Panoz. I personally wouldn't buy one, but your speed expectations wouldn't be met owning a Prowler. You want to go fast, not be a cruiser. Hope you can live with your wife after buying the Panoz.
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Hello, I had a 400 hp custom built (non kit)Cobra replica. It looked great and sounded even better, black with silver racing stripes. It was awfully fast and too impractical. No top (albeit a goofy soft tent top) was too hot from engine heat (351 stroker and side pipes), no air or comforts of home. After the initial high we all get with a new ride, I didn't drive it much because of the above problems and it was not a reliable vehicle to go on a long trip in. In the summer, after the temp got to 80 in the morning, I couldn't stand the heat and in the winter, it was too cold to drive. I drive my Kat any day that it is not raining and no salt on the roads. Get the Kat and don't look back.

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BUY THE PROWLER. When you own a Prowler you are part of an extended family that is worldwide. Through this site you get to meet some of the nicest and friendliest people on earth. You can put a price on both cars but the enjoyment you get with the Prowler combined with the friendship and events the Prowler Owners bring, well that's priceless. I am glad to be part of this family.
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If you want speed but the Panoz, if you want to cruise buy the Prowler(as everyone here has said).
Besides that fact that they are both two seaters there is nothing else to compare.
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well the panoz is a nice car, and is fast! and i would say good for cruizin around town!
But i think they came out with this car to try and compete with the prowler, the prowler is a all-around car where you get the best of both worlds, and with some mods, you can increase the smile even more?
I call it my ice cream car, the only thing i wish was there was only 5,000 or less of them to make them rarer.
But i think that most prowler owners will agree, the car is just way to cool so if you don't like attention, then by something else! because the prowler just is in a class by itself! I've driven in the
1)2000 viper henessey
2)ferrari modena
3)2001 lotus twin-turbo
4)2001 acura nsx
5)2001 porsch 996
6)2001 corvette z-06
7)2000 jaguar xk-8
All these cars are truly nice,i would have to say for the cost and all around performance and looks the prowler is by itself. And if you had money to spend you could make the prowler one of those six-cylinder sleepers, and modify suspension & lower the car, i know of someone else who did this. Now for $75,000-$100,000 with engine mods and suspension and maybe beef tranny along with a few other goody's all those cars would be quite suprised on the track!
tjtucker
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posted 03-24-2002 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tjtucker     send a private message to tjtucker   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by tjtucker
Thanks all for the replies I think your right the Panoz is truly a 50 mile or less car. I had a GMC Syclone for 10 years and put 17,000 mile on it and the longest trip was 200 miles. Mainly I just went to the golf course and back. When it was new it drew a lot of looks and attention, but as time passed only a few people knew what it was.

The price difference between the 2 is less than 6,000.00 The Panoz is alot like the Prowler tilt wheel, power steering, power brakes, AC and a CD player with a sub woofer. If it had a better top it would be the sure winner. The power is great fun but like many of you said can I live with the car over time?

TJ

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Take the Prowler and install a supercharger that should make up for part of the performance differences.

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I've checked these cars cars out and seen a motor show on how they build these things from the ground up. They are spindly, light weight and wirey. I've looked them over several time at local in door consignment lots and each and every time I keep coming to the same conclusion............
THEY ARE BUTT UGLY. You put a Prowler next to one and it becomes totaly obvious.
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Buy the Kat way better looking in my opinon, The other one doesn't even deserve a paper bag,it's so ugly, speed isn't everything cruisin in your Kat on a nice sunny day, people staring and pointing priceless

PK

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What is the Panos warranty? Who backs it? Availability and wait for parts?

Ever hear of a Yugo? You-Go walk for the parts.........


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I'm with Todd, I would go for looks, style. If I just wanted speed, I would of kept my 2002 Vette. Bottom line get what you want! I always wanted a Prowler, I let everyone talk me out of it. Had the Vette less than 4 months, went to the LA auto saw the Candyred Prowler, couldn't keep my eyes off of it. 3 days later sold the Vette found a Chrsyler dealership in Ohio who was able to get me a Candyred for a good price. I thank GOD all the time for giving a second chance for the car I always wanted...
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I wanted looks and style and also speed. So, as RebelBob suggested, I put on the Paxton low pressure blower and now I have all I want. I go easy 13.2 second quarters at 106. Laddie goes in the 12s with his Prowler. Looking at Road and Track, the C5 Vette Convertible does 13.6 seconds; the almighty powerful Z06 vette does 13.1; the Viper GTS does 12.5. They also show the Panoz Esperante with the 320HP motor doing 13.7. I have been more than willing to race any of these folks in a car that has ultimate style and panache.
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I looked at the Panoz Roadster when I was looking for my Prowler. I thought it had one thing going for it, the power. When it came to looks, it wasn't even close. The Prowler by far looked more complete while the Panoz looked cheap and unfinished. I am sure the Panoz would be fun to play around with, but I could not take my eyes off of the Prowler. Gorgeous design with the potential for more.

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The Panoz is a nice ride to be sure. But it is not to be compared to a Prowler. The Prowler can't be compared to any other car made. It is a true cruiser. The closest you can find to compare to a Prowler would be a custom built Hot Rod. Most Hot Rods arent truely built for speed, but looks. The Panoz is a car similar in spirit to the Shelby Cobra. Big motor, light weight, tight suspension and no real top. I chose the Prowler because I already have my speed fix with my Mustang. I have modded it to beyond Viper status. So when I get in the Prowler it's to drop the top and cruise. It's a choice that only you can make. As far as making the Prolwer faster... I wouldnt mess with it my self. If you want speed get the Panoz... if you want a cool car, get the Prowler.

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