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posted 08-09-2005 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meancat     send a private message to meancat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by meancat
Mike called me collect, as he was walking home after his ball joint broke while driving down the road about 45 mph.He told me the car had the recall done.This upsets me to think the recall is a joke.I WANT ANSWERS...(AND WILL NOT SLEEP TILL I GET THEM)

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Jerry,

Mike's a good guy who really loves his car.
I'm glad he's all right & hopefully the car isn't damaged too much. Keep me/us posted..........

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posted 08-09-2005 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
Not good news!
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More details???
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posted 08-09-2005 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meancat     send a private message to meancat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by meancat
Mike said he would report as soon as he knows something.He seem's to be bummed out at the moment.And is very confused as to how this could happen.We were both speeding yesterday as we reached speed of 120mph (only because someone tried to pass) (didn't happen).He's still walking back, when he get's to the office he will post.I will post later.Right now Jerry Springer show is on.

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This message has been edited by meancat on 08-09-2005 at 10:29 PM

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GLAD IT HAPPENED WHERE IT DID, AT 40MPH INSTEAD OF LAST NITE ON E-WAY RAMP COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE WILL GET TOWED TONIGHT TO DEALER AND HAVE ANSWERS TOMMOROW . PS JERRY GET THE DETAILS CORRECT I WENT ABOUT 80-85 YESTERDAY,YOU WENT 120 THATS ABOUT A 40 MPH DIFFERANCE TEEHEE
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posted 08-09-2005 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     send a private message to butchcee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by butchcee
I'd be there to verify that the ball joint recall was actually done by inspecting the ball joint number before they get a chance to change in case the dealer was playing games.
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THANKS I'LL BE THERE TO INSPECT THE PARTS I CAN'T BELEVE THE NEW BALL JOINT FAILED WITH APROXMENTALLY 15000 MILES ON IT WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS THANKS MIKE
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quote:
Originally posted by meancat:
He told me the car had the recall done.

Who told him it got done? Was it DC or the guy he bought it from? I mean...was it just word of mouth?

Maybe it never got done.

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how do you know if the ball joint recall has been done on your car. I Have a yellow 2000 and bought it from a dealer... don't know if the work has been done yet
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Call dealer, give them your vin number of the kat. They will tell you on the re-call if it was done.
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quote:
Originally posted by pumpkin:
Call dealer, give them your vin number of the kat. They will tell you on the re-call if it was done.


You can do it on the web too:

http://www.chrysler.com/webselfservice/chrysler/index.jsp?screenName=recall&country=us&emailUrl=goToEmailForm%28%27R%27%29

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Does any one know what material the ball joint is made of?
I do Know the A arms are aluminum and aluminum has a very high thermal expansion with temperature change compared to steel and copper, not trying to stere the pot, but depending on the material content of the ball joint, this may have some thing to do with the failure with Mikes ball joint.
I remember seeing a picture of the ball joint some where on this sight and I believe there was a copper sleeve or bushing hopefully beryllium copper. If I recall the ball joint, was press fitted into the nickel at room temperature, depending on all the material components of the ball joint assembly and all the inner and outer diameters of the components being tolerance correctly,maybe they should have froze the ball joint assembly in liquid nitrogen prior to install. what the liquid nitrogen does is shrink the beryllium copper and allow it to normalize at room temperature if you will to conform with the inner race of the aluminum A arm after install, just a thought here.
It would be nice to know where this ball joint failed this time since the recall was completed.

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Mike, sorry to hear of the trouble. Good luck getting to bottom of it.
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Jim, the exterior body of the ball joint appears to have passivation finish on the steel body. The hardened inner ball and stud ride in a plastic bearing and thrust against a hardened top cap that is held in place with a folded lip on the ball joint body. This was a brand new old style lower ball joint that was pressed out of an unused a-arm. There didn't appear to be much grease inside when disassembled.

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PS Jim, the ball joints usually fail under that plastic jobber between the ball and the stem. The later recall pieces have a larger diameter stem in this area. I think Dan has pics on his site comparing the two.
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SO MUCH HAS BEEN WRITTER ALMOST ALL NEGITIVE ASSOCIATER WITH THE BALL JOINT MY PROBLEM FIT THE DESCRIPTION SO I DIDN'T EVEN OPEN THE HOOD WHEN I DID LAST NITE I FOUND THE TOP OF THE SHOCK HAD COME UPSCREWED FROM THE TOP BRACKET OF THE SHOCK ITSELF. PUT IT BACK TOGETHER ON THE ROAD AND LIMPED IT HOME NOT TO MUCH DAMAGE TO THE NOSE JUST SOME SCRATCHES UNDERNEATH ANYONE HAVE AN EXTRA SET OF SHOCKS MIKE
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new koni's are pretty reasonable recently.
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Mike glad to here it's not the ball joint.Hard to belive the shock coming off would do that.Mike I have to run,I'm running the pumpkin run for the next two day's.If you need help getting the shocks you need let me know and I will get on the phone and get them coming.

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Finding a set of Konis might be a little tricky.

I may know where a set is if you need them.

Ron

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Bob Goetz at Real Rod has a pile of Koni front shock/coil spring assemblies for sale.
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Originally posted by RPL:
Bob Goetz at Real Rod has a pile of Koni front shock/coil spring assemblies for sale.

Get on this one Mike ! We'll still see you at Woodward,

just as we planned !

"Well King, this case is closed"..

"Wuff"

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not that it matters to Mike anymore, but I found a piece that goes under the ball joint cap to take top load. Rolled off the bench when I tapped out the stem--OOOPS


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Butchcee,
Thanks for showing the inner components of the Ball joint assembly, and clarifying what failed, "Plastic scarry". I did notice that the lower end cap has the "X" number on it that some one here had mentioned was the indication that the ball joint recall was completed, are these pictures of a new one or the replacement? Again thank you for showing us the pictures..
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Jim--the pics are an old/unused one. Here's a shot of another old/unused next to a new replacement. The x is visible on this shot.


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