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Bob Miller





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posted 02-10-2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Miller     send a private message to Bob Miller   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Miller
For those of you who have replaced your 17" front wheels with a new set of OEM Prowler wheels from your dealer, have you had the same flaking you had with the original wheels? Thanks.

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Bob, do a search on flaking chrome wheels if you like depressing information . Yes there have been many...
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..I still have a full set of new replacements in the boxes.....I have been curious to look in the boxes for a year or so, to see how they have done, just never think of it when I am at the warehouse......
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YEP
I bought four brand new wheels in unopened boxes a few years ago from a prowler owner who had painted silver wheel's and bought chrome wheels but sold his prowler before he had them mounted.

Now bear in mind (BRAND NEW)i never mounted them and kept these wheel's in a climate controlled environment.

Not to long ago i was moving them and while checking them out discovered two of them had already started to get micro blisters and dime sized Blips on them.

You will find that this a sore subject on this site.

TUIB Please when you check your's let me what they look like i'm curious.

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Originally posted by toys:

TUIB Please when you check your's let me what they look like i'm curious.

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...Now ya got me REALLY curious ....

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TUIB ... quck, go look in your boxes ... maybe find Jimmy Hoffa too!
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Originally posted by Ray:
TUIB ... quck, go look in your boxes ... maybe find Jimmy Hoffa too!


Ray...I always was curious why there were 5 boxes


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I am liking my wheels better all the time. I have a set of previously Silver wheels that have been chromed on the outside. I have the inside barrels painted Prowler Wheel Silver. Most people don't notice. Best part is I don't have to worry about flaking. Since my front suspension has the smooth clear coated finish the front wheels match well. Though if I ever go to chrome front suspension , I am not sure how they will look.
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The wheels are a disgrace for this car. Even more so the attitude of some dealers to make them right. I was told that "if i had bought the kat there, they might have replaced the wheels". That stinks...........
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The wheels are a disgrace for this car. Even more so the attitude of some dealers to make them right. I was told that "if i had bought the kat there, they might have replaced the wheels". That stinks...........
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posted 02-10-2005 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I had a total of three replaced. I have not had a problem with any of the new rims. One car is almost 6 years old with 48,000 on it. The other one only has about 3000 and is probably about 3 years old.
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Originally posted by Lone Ranger:

The wheels are a disgrace for this car. Even more so the attitude of some dealers to make them right. I was told that "if i had bought the kat there, they might have replaced the wheels". That stinks...........

quote:
Originally posted by Lone Ranger:

The wheels are a disgrace for this car. Even more so the attitude of some dealers to make them right. I was told that "if i had bought the kat there, they might have replaced the wheels". That stinks...........

You feel so strongly about it that you posted it twice?

How inappropriate.

POST IT AT LEAST A THOUSAND MORE TIMES!!!

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I think that peeling chrome on wheels on a car that had less than 3000 miles, always garaged, never driven in the winter, is a disgrace... My car was in showroom condition when i bought it except for the flakes....I don't know about the dealer issues,.... the original owner never had the wheels replaced and the warranty was up when i bought the car.
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Ihave had mine replaced and when they had just been replaced I could see they were a lot more shinney on outside but inside where the orginal were peeling there were not that shinney and a lot of grinder marks.They are wheels that if on shelf for sale I would not consider paying for them.These are my first American Wheels and would not be interested in looking at any thing they sell.First I feel Chrysler is wrong for accepting this type of work and second American Wheel is wrong for putting out such crap.My two cents worth
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Well the reason I ask the question is that my two fronts look like crap and have been that way since 3,000 miles (I now have 12,000 on a 2001). I installed ceramic brake pads about a month ago.

I can't believe the retail for these things is around $700 and the quality is worth $25. I need new fronts, I guess I'll have to buy some soon. The replacements better come with some sort of warranty!!!

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i will be going for the Coddington wheels... it might take me a couple of years to save up the money but bet they stand behind their product....

it seems we all smell the same stink !
www.boydcoddington.com

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Is it possible to have the inner wheel ground down and powder coated silver? Mine are flaking a little and that is what I am thinking of doing when it gets real bad.

Any thoughts?

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I went to a local wheel repair place to get an estimate on having the chrome removed and the wheel polished just on the inside part. They said it was cost prohibitive. They suggested painting the inside part. My car is black and wheels are chrome. I think a black paint will look nice (better than peeling chrome). Estimated cost = $100 for each 20" wheel and $85 for each 17" wheel. I will post pics when done.
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I have a 2002 Candy, mine aren't bad. Is it because they fixed the problem before 2002?

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I went to a local wheel repair place to get an estimate on having the chrome removed and the wheel polished just on the inside part. They said it was cost prohibitive. They suggested painting the inside part. My car is black and wheels are chrome. I think a black paint will look nice (better than peeling chrome). Estimated cost = $100 for each 20" wheel and $85 for each 17" wheel. I will post pics when done.

I would bet that the paint will also start flaking at a later date. As I understand it, the problem with these wheels is that they are cast alum. There is a small amount of porosity in the alum. I think it is usually the air pressure pushing outward thru the cast wheel and loosening the plating "Chrome". Thus, it seems you might have the same problem with paint. JMO

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I don't know what deal Plymouth made with American for these wheels, but I bet flaking rims and breaking center caps wasn't in the plan. I wonder if it would motivate DC or American to take action if enough people sent letters complaining about quality and design of these wheels instead of sticking their head in the sand hoping the problem will go away or be taken care of my the owners. New rims still in the box flaking??? How can that be possible? This ain't no Chevy Biscayne we're driving and the product should be supported even after warranty expires. Sure, it will cost a bundle to fix, but it's not our fault and we shouldn't take the hit. Yes, my wheels are flaking too, and my center caps are broken. American has been making wheels long enough to know what will work or not. If they thought there was going to be a problem, they should have notified Plymouth instead of taking the big paycheck.JMO


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i agree with butchee 100% !!

is there anyone who hasn't had the problem ?....if they are going rotten in the box, then its poor prep, and the centers are just poor design.......either way they should make it right..

petition time ?
then get it put in one of the car publications...

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petition time ?
then get it put in one of the car publications...

Good idea Halicat Another thought is that a lot of us own more then one DC vehicle. I have three. Couldn't that be used for leverage--the loyalty factor?

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i had two pt cruisers before the Kat....i'm loyal !

lets use it as a pry..

maybe Brock Yates can use his powers for good, not evil...

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I don't know what deal Plymouth made with American for these wheels, but I bet flaking rims and breaking center caps wasn't in the plan. I wonder if it would motivate DC or American to take action if enough people sent letters complaining about quality and design of these wheels instead of sticking their head in the sand hoping the problem will go away or be taken care of my the owners. New rims still in the box flaking??? How can that be possible? This ain't no Chevy Biscayne we're driving and the product should be supported even after warranty expires. Sure, it will cost a bundle to fix, but it's not our fault and we shouldn't take the hit. Yes, my wheels are flaking too, and my center caps are broken. American has been making wheels long enough to know what will work or not. If they thought there was going to be a problem, they should have notified Plymouth instead of taking the big paycheck.JMO




I have had my chrome wheels for 6 years and they STILL LOOK GREAT!.........now I had mine chromed and ask that the rear barrel be polished and look like the face of the wheels. It is my understanding that American Racing made the wheels but they were chromed in Ohio (don't know the name of the company). IMO...they were not spec'ed to have the barrel polished and chromed like the face. AS I HAVE STATED BEFORE, most cars this would not be a problem. Yes they should have requested the process be changed when they 1st started getting warranty issues with the flaking of the wheel barrel, but they didn't.

I think the best thing you could do with the flaking wheels would be to remove the tires and have the barrel powder coated. THEY ARE STILL THE BEST LOOKING RIMS ON A PROWLER. For those that want 100 point show chrome on the barrel would be to find a set of painted wheels and send them out to be chromed and request the barrel be finished to match the face. I paid and extra $50 per wheel to have the rear polished and chromed to match the face

REMEMBER THIS CAR WAS DONE BECAUSE THE RESPONSE WAS SO STRONG. IT WAS A CONCEPT CAR TO TRY OUT NEW STUFF. They tried to do the factory chrome grill but scrapped the idea when they could not get the quality they wanted. The front end was also to be chromed, again my understanding POOR QUALITY. We should all remember the quality issues WE HAVE HAD, trying to find a vendor for chrome plated stock grills. We are doing this without the assistance of the engineeres and the access to the parts other than buying more or using our own.

The car has been out of production for 3 years, any car, SHOW CARS THAT DO NOT GET DRIVEN, must be maintained and repairs done due to aging. A guy I met when showing the Prowler with a beautiful `34 Ford spent $5,000 having the rear axle rechromed because he didn't like the quality, then a few years later I see him again and the car was changed from red to burgandy and that change ended up being another $65,000 by the time he was done. If you want SHOW QUALITY you have to pay the price.

The SHOW CARS you see at the ISCA shows that are the WINNERS are probably $300,000 to $500,000 dollar cars, at these cost how many of us would have a PROWLER? They are production cars, except the flaws and enjoy the car.....my 2 cents


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