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rrleggat
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posted 04-02-2002 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rrleggat     send a private message to rrleggat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by rrleggat
Why are the values going down on the Prowlers? I thought since they ended production that they would have soared. They have taken a turn for the worse. Anybody understand why?
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two reasons, bad economy, and end of production. people want the new, not the old. Things go up in value not because of rarity, but because of Nostalgia. If enough people get Nostalgic about the Prowler they wanted when they were 20 but could not afford (doubtful because DC never advertised them much, which is also why they are not selling, people just don't know about them), then they will go up in Value. Rare is not always valuable or sought after. Expect 25-30 K Prowler's with a few miles on them within 1 -2 years, maybe for less $

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I have said this before about the value going up on the Prowler... it ain't going to happen, some people are trying to create at market for the Prowler but it won't work.

I was at a dealer today that has a new 01 Prowler on the showroom, they have jacked up the price too $60K. I asked the saleman why and he said they don't make them anymore, I told him I had a new ( 25 miles ) 02 Prowler that I'd sell to them for $50K... he just walked away.

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posted 04-02-2002 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
A lot of the dealers were the worst enemy of the Prowler right from the beginning.
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posted 04-02-2002 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SPCL-T     send a private message to SPCL-T   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by SPCL-T
CJ - I couldn't agree with you more! During the tour on Tribute day, I stated the exact same thing to a group of workers on the line. You should have seen their faces. One of them actually thought it was the fault of the plant &/or DC. I know that I have cursed DC a few times, but all along, I knew it was the dealerships that have been the issue.

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Damn straight, dealers in So. Cal, not 5K over MSRP, not 10K, not 15K, not 20K but up to 25K over MSRP. Thats one reason why I couldnt afford a Prowler. Thanks to Autoweek I found some dealers willing to sell the Kat below MSRP. Values: mine is priceless...

This message has been edited by topcat on 04-02-2002 at 06:46 PM

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I think it is on the verge of being criminal that DC built this care so other than the very wealthy could afford it only to have dealers kill that objective and in the proces killed the Kat. However I also fault DC, because they did not advertise this car. If they did so, with ads stating the MSRP it would have gone a long way in preventing at the very least the most extreme dealer markups. JMO

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PANTHER CITY PROWLER

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I think there is plenty of blame to go around, and some of the dealers certainly are guilty stiffling sales with healthy adds to the sticker price. Chrysler certainly shares the blame in the way that they handled the allocations. At the time I bought mine one local dealer had 3 of them on the floor and wanted $5,000 to $18,000 (for a Woodward) over list, but Chrysler wouldn't give a production timeframe to the dealer I wanted to buy from. I ended up buying used---- a sale that Chrysler never got.

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Supply and demand...DC knew there would only be a certain amount of people that would understand what the Kat is all about...anyone that really wanted one has found a way to have one or will soon....pricing and advertising played a role, but I really can't imagine many CAR PEOPLE not knowing about the Prowler...it is just not for everyone....not enough space, not enough power, not enough of this or that for the average guy...I don't consider my self the "regular guy" and those that know me will agree....Prowler owners travel a different path in life and not everyone is ready for that road, advertising or not....many people are afraid to step out of the mold, they are sheep... they can only imagine what it would be like, WE LIVE IT !!! I seriously doubt the pricing will rise for decades to come, but the bright side is the TRUE KAT LOVERS will have access to CHEAP THRILLS for the rest of our lives while the rest of the world just sits and watches...thats why I keep yelling "DRIVE 'EM"...there will always be "no mile" Prowlers for sale for as long as I live, and probably cheaper than they are now....use them up and get a cheap refill....we can live the dream while the sheep watch and wonder DRIVE 'EM

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The equation is supply and demand.

Supply is still there. Almost anyone in the market knows that they can still get a new one for around retail or less.

Demand, I think, will remain relatively constant, but will dwindle some as the cars get older.

As for me - I wouldn't sell mine (unless I got an extraordinary offer), so that makes it more valuable. And I think most Kat owners are like me. If most owners are like me, then the supply will drop drastically... and in effect increasing the price.

In actuality, though, I really don't care. I bought the car 'cause I fell in love, not as an investment. In summary, I think the car will increase in value in 10+ years from now. Still too soon right now. Got to be patient.

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I fully agree with T.U.I.B. on ALL of his points and with BeWare on the lack of advertising MSRP ... that certainly would have put pressure on dealers, but the points Blue makes still shine on the significant issues. Anyone that hears I have one says "boy, you must really be loaded" ... which is FAR from the truth. I just found a way to make it happen way back in '98. Car guy yes ... rich no.
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posted 04-03-2002 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howler Cat     send a private message to Howler Cat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Howler Cat
Ray, I had someone told me that what ever that car is, it's really impressive and the price is at least $120,000.00. Do you belive that???

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"I just found a way to make it happen way back in '98. Car guy yes ... rich no."

Sounds like me too. Creative financing, and I'm still making payments - because I love this car!

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This message has been edited by SPCL-T on 04-03-2002 at 04:38 AM

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From the first time I saw one I new I would have one someday, just not at the price the dealers were asking.

As a business owner and devout capitalist, I do not fault the dealers for wanting to make all they can from a limited production car. If you wanted one bad enough you found a way to buy and enjoy the car.

I finally got around to buying one late last year and I love it. May not be for everyone, don't care.

As far as future value goes, if you are buying as an investment you probably screwed up. I don't think they will depreciate as fast as a "normal" car.

Drive them and enjoy.

Steve

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