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Scot Stern POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Escondido, CA |
posted 07-25-2001 12:42 PM
Ok, for once I have a serious post and I need your help. I do not have a complaint about a member and I do not wish to start a war with anyone so I hope that this post doesn't bore all of you. I just want to ask a question about my Prowler...how novel! I took my 2001 into Bob Baker Chrysler in San Diego yesterday to have the convertible top latches fixed. Both of the little plastic latches had been broken off prior to delivery of the car to me. As you all know, the part costs maybe $.15 and Chrysler only offers it as an assembly that costs over $200 each. Interestingly, they sent two and each was a different color (grey and black). So I now have a multi colored car. In any case, while it was in, I mentioned that I have been hearing a strange cracking sound every time I go over a driveway that sounded like it was coming from the frame. In any case, they went for a test ride with me (60 feet to the end of their driveway) and the car faithfully made the loud cracking noise. We repeated this process with another mechanic and then they asked me to leave the car. I called later in the day, to inquire about the progress, and they told me that were having conversations with Chrysler concerning the issue and hoped to have more information tomorrow. They treated me in a first class way, and they have taken better care of my car then I do, so I have absolutely no complaint about them or their service. I am wondering if anyone else has ever experienced this situation and if anyone has any ideas. It almost sounds like a cracked frame or weld on the frame. The car only has 603 miles on it, it is 4 months old and it has done this since it was delivered. Any ideas? Thanks, Scot PS I hope to be back to normal, after solving this problem, and post only ridicules articles about plastic performance parts, experiences at he Home Depot and being the oldest Prowler owner on the board at 114 years old! This message has been edited by Scot Stern on 07-25-2001 at 12:46 PM |
SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 07-25-2001 12:48 PM
Scott This sounds funny, but I had the exact same thing at the same mileage. Use Lube 1 oil or a super low friction (teflon based) lube oil on the hood's hinges. Do both of them good and really good, do the doors hinges next and then ride it around. Sassy |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 07-25-2001 01:09 PM
Scot, I also have a car that is making a popping noise. The noise comes from the driver side rear when the wheels are cut slightly to the left and only noticeable under light acceleration from a dead stop. Originally I thought the sound was coming from the frame, but discovered it was coming from the left rear axle. I plan on taking it in soon to get it checked out. Please let us know what your tech finds out. ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 07-25-2001 01:31 PM
Scot - you need to talk to MadMax in Arizona. DC has spent about $2,500 trying to find this noise, and still no answer. Cat has even been sublet to two other automotive places that specialize in repairs - no new results! Sasy, this is not a hood noise, this is a frame/suspension noise. Cracking, twisting, binding noise. Wish you were right, maybe we can try that solution. If you find the answer, PLEASE let us know ASAP. MadMax is buying new rope at HomeDepot, to hang himself. ------------------
This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 07-25-2001 at 01:32 PM |
dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 07-25-2001 02:26 PM
I just now starting experiancing this problem with cracking noises coming from my rear end. My Prowler rear end that is !! Please keep us updated as too what was the cause. I only hear it when I go up a driveway where the chassis has to bend a little. Later... ------------------ |
blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 07-25-2001 02:32 PM
I have the same cracking sound. I get it while driving slow up an incline. It's done this since I got it new. Let us know what you find out. ------------------ |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 07-25-2001 03:21 PM
This is weird. I was in a friends driveway the other day which has various different sloping angles to it. I heard this cracking noise for the first time. It did it sevavral times pulling forward and backward from a level surface to a steep incline. I took it to the dealer and they could not duplicate the sounds. I have not heard this noise since. I am driving to Woodward next month and I hope I don't have any problems. ------------------ |
dkla12 Prowler Enthusiast From:Santa Monica, CA |
posted 07-25-2001 03:28 PM
I hear the exact noise but i don't think it's a big deal. the prowler is hand-made, but still keep up posted. thanks. - danny ------------------ |
PTCCmike Prowler Newbie From:Long Beach, WA |
posted 07-25-2001 07:58 PM
I fixed this problem on Roger Freeman's Prowler. When I was working at the dealer in Astoria OR, I replaced all the front anti-swaybar bushings on Rogers Prowler under warranty. It had low miles on it, but the bushings were creaky. The noise is gone now. Here is a picture of it after I removed the nose: ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 07-25-2001 08:35 PM
Thanks Mike - we appreciate you checking in on us and answering questions every chance you get. We have seen your national PT Cruiser Club grow to a very respectful number of members, and we wish you great success and yearly increases. ------------------
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 07-26-2001 01:39 AM
I have had that creaking noise since day one. I thought it was the body panel creaking. It is on the passenger side front. I thought it was the side panel where it meets the other piece just behind the wheel. I might have to look into the bushings remedy. Thanks a lot, Michael. |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 07-26-2001 07:37 AM
Mike, thanks for the info. I dont have the problem, but if I do, I'll know where to look. Were the bushings you replaced deformed? Wouldn't a lube with brake fluid fix the problem? ------------------ |
Punk N Purp POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pacifica, CA, USA |
posted 07-26-2001 07:00 PM
I had the squeaking problem back in '98 with my Purple Prowler. It was the bushings. They were replaced and I haven't had the problem since. I thought they must have solved the problem by now, but it is back? Oh well! I have a question….. This is the best picture of the front of a Prowler without the front on I can remember ever seeing. I was wondering if that is the sensor for the airbag on the center aluminum brace, second row from the bottom? There is a wire coming from it. If not, what is the wire for? Curious, ------------------ |
cwatsonjr unregistered Admin Use |
posted 07-26-2001 07:50 PM
Jim - if I were to hazard a guess, I would say it was the temp sensor for the digital readout in the mirror. Looks about like the one on our Durango. ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 07-26-2001 10:47 PM
Since the bumpers are grey, I would think the car is a 99 and we don't have that feature on our rear view mirrors (or anywhere else, for that matter). I don't remember if they made 2000 yellows. I guess I could check Facts and Stats. |
cwatsonjr unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 07-26-2001 11:07 PM
Ed - there are a lot of yellow 2Ks listed in the Owner's Registry. But if it is a '99 than that sensor is for something else...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ------------------ |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 07-26-2001 11:37 PM
quote: Ok, curiosity got to me. I've seen this sensor on all years of Prowlers. I decided to look it up in the service manual and found out it does two things:
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cwatsonjr unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 07-26-2001 11:41 PM
WOW - thanks Mike for clearing that up... Interesting how it charges the battery according to the outside temp. ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 07-26-2001 11:44 PM
And now we know "The rest of the story", Good Day. Thanks Paul Harvey, errrr Mike K. Are you guys coming to Woodward? Are you not coming because GaryC says he might be coming? lol |
Punk N Purp POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pacifica, CA, USA |
posted 07-26-2001 11:50 PM
Thanks Mike! I love it when my curiosity gets satisfied. |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 07-27-2001 12:37 AM
BTW, there are two airbag sensors in front. The one you see to the left of the BTS and another to the right (not visible in the photo above). ------------------ |
Scot Stern POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Escondido, CA |
posted 07-27-2001 10:12 AM
I talked to the dealership today and they claim that they have "solved" the mystery of my noise. They found a problem in the rear of the car that is solved by "fabricating" and adding a new rubber part. According to them they have installed this "mod" and now it does not make this noise. They have called Chrysler and they are coming next week to see the car, the fix and then determine the viability of the solution.
Julio took an unusual approach to the situation in that he apparently used wood blocks on the lift to simulate the terrain and then was able to hear and isolate the noise using the lift. He put in the time and the determination to find the problem and then the mechanical skills to solve it. Unusual in today's I don't care world. An unbelievable chain of events so far that culminates in complete satisfaction in terms of caring about my problem and my car. After more information from Chrysler and the dealer I shall post as to the specifics. They said I could pick-up the car today and then return it next week when this regional person arrives. Scot ------------------ This message has been edited by Scot Stern on 07-27-2001 at 10:21 AM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 07-27-2001 10:41 AM
Scot - I really believe they have finally found it! Thanks Scot, and thank that dealership's wrench, Julio, who figured it out! Keep us updated.... ------------------
This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 07-27-2001 at 10:44 AM |
Todd Cameron unregistered Admin Use |
posted 07-31-2001 02:25 AM
Don't forget about the creaks n groans caused by the non releaved hood latches they put out on some Oranges, like MINE. ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 08-02-2001 09:28 AM
Scot - what is the update on this problem/fix?? What did DC say about it? Picture of fix by the Prowler tech? Thanks |
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