posted 06-08-2001 04:49 PM                  

FM, not really sure what you mean. I don't see that anyone got ripped off.

posted 06-08-2001 07:56 PM                  

For those of you who paid $2k it seems like you got your monies worth in terms of satisfaction and "speed" to market. For those of you who can now afford them at $1450 what a great deal.

I just wonder about the true elasticity! In short how many would have been sold at $2,000, $1,450 or even $995? I certainly do not know the correct answer, but there in lies the true secret of success called marketing.

In a strict sense, the seller should actually determine what margin dollars they expect to achieve from the total units sold . If the number is "X" and "X" is obtainable by selling 50 sets at 2K or 75 sets at 1.45K or even 100 sets at $995 then the choice is obvious. If on the other hand, it takes the sale of 7,000 units to achieve the margin dollar target then one has to sell them at a higher price.

The true key to failure of most entrepreneurs is a simple word called greed. In short, greed kills.

Scot

posted 06-09-2001 12:27 PM                  

G-Force has NEVER taken any money or deposits from anyone for the gears. Many people offered to send money or give credit card numbers and were told to wait until the gears were in hand before any money would be accepted.

Nobody is "ripping off" anyone here. Quite the reverse actually! Talk about a "rip off" maybe you need to look at the prices that have been charged for last two years by others. I personally applaud G-Force for taking the initiative to step up to get the price of gears into a more reasonable price range. G-Force simply ordered a larger quantity of the same gears that were already being sold to another supplier. G-Force also decided to work with a little less profit (while still substantial) margin in order to make the gears more affordable to the Prowler owners that wanted them.

Summer sale? Give me a break! Competition is always the best way to bring the price down. I for one am happy to have choices!

------------------
Larry (Cruise Control) Lord
Larry@FMBbox.com

posted 06-10-2001 05:58 AM                  

Speaking of profit. Here's an example of someone playing middle man, and making money from us:

MAC Accessories sells the K&N intake kit for $199 plus shipping. One of our fellow POA members made a deal with MAC for a group/quantity purchase. I think that these were offered for $174 plus $14 for shipping. I ordered, and just received the kit on Friday, along with the packing slip, which showed the billing. This individual buy's the kit for $139 plus $18 for direct shipping from MAC.
199+18=217
174+14=188
OK, I thank this person for saving me $29. But look at it this way. MAC sells to the middle man for $60 less than what they advertise on their website. The middle man makes approximately $31, and you know MAC is still making something. What does that say for the original $199 that someone is paying over the counter.

I've heard as much as $2200 (now $1450) vs. $1350 for the gear set? What is the difference between the gear set and the air intake. Someone is always going to be lining their pockets at the consumers expense! This is typical in today's society. "What will the market bare" & "how fast can we get the product to the market." Sound familiar?

I'm just wondering: The way some of you are whining about this topic - do you also whine about where you buy your laundry detergent? Sam's Club might be selling it cheaper than your local grocery, or visa-versa. If anyone wants to play, they will have to pay someone else. CHOICE !!! It is up the to consumer to CHOOSE which vendor gets their money, and it is up to the vendor to CHOOSE how much profit to make.

Lets all stop whining and bashing each other.

What is the next product that will help us ALL enjoy the Prowler experience?

------------------
SPCL-T

posted 06-10-2001 08:58 AM                  

Maybe, we need a section on the site that has lowest available price for add-ons, accessories, p/ns, etc...

This way all prowler owners or guests could easily find what's available... We have the free classifieds but, not eveyone views them... I'm always interested in what's available & at what price... Than it's up to the buyer to pay whatever they want...

I would have never known about jet caps or flag caddie if it were not for someone posting these here...

posted 06-10-2001 10:27 AM                  

My thanks to Tony for making a post that will save (and already has) saved many people MUCH money on the parts they wish to purchase for their car.

Not everyone can afford to pay premium prices for their parts.
Just like SPCL-T, I now have a set of G-Force gears in my car. I would NEVER have put these gears in if it had not been for the price reduction that Tony made happen. I feel that competition only cause better products and better prices. It's good to have options.

posted 06-10-2001 04:37 PM                  

I just made a deal with BW. I purchased 10,000 sets of gears and I got them for $195.00 per set!. I can now afford to sell them to all of you for only $495.00 per set and just think, after I sell just 10,000 sets, I will have made $3,000,000!

Now that I am rich, I need to let you know that I have developed a set of plastic gears for only $129.00. They are made in Taiwan and, therefore, they only cost me $.39 per set. I committed to 30,000 sets, which as first blush might seem like a lot, but then again they only last 1.6 miles.

I have also developed a new gear that my research and development department has been working on for 12 years that has 7,212 teeth (two of them are gold capped) that will increase your raw rear wheel horsepower to 3,214. This gear is made out of Kryptonite and is available for the introductory price of only $995.

After the summer special introductory price, the selling price will once again revert to the standard $4,212. Since I only pay $912 each for the manufacturing of this gear I expect to sell 5,019 for a tidy profit.

Our "crack" design team is now working on a new gear, that if properly installed, in your radio, will increase the output to over 3,000 watts!

I am installing an 800 number and 50 operators to take orders for all of the people who call in after my infomercial that I have commissioned for next week. It will be playing at 2:00 AM on Sundays right after the Lyle Talbot movie entitled Werewolf Prowler Driver. This movie is about a Werewolf that prays on gearheads that have overpaid for speed producing gears.

Thanks for letting me use this forum to sell my products and I shall look forward to huge sales in the future. I have also agreed to donate $.49 from each sale to the POA to help them offset the expenses of maintaining this valuable forum.

Thanks,

Scot

posted 06-10-2001 04:51 PM                  

------------------
Worlds Fastest Prowler